They clapped!!!111 They clapped!!!111 Off with their heads!!!111

[WilliamPitt]

And once again, I am reminded to thank God that a certain segment of DU Land holds no power in government.

Rant on, friends. Rant on. Let no considerations of decorum, class, tradition or tactics deflect you. Call for the ouster of Pelosi and the rest. Enjoy walking in circles after you blow your own foot off.

Oy vey.

I'm going with Mr. Webb. All the clapping in the world won't take the sting out of the whipsong he is playing on that speech.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Yup, there's this protocol thing, whether we like it or not.

Doesn't matter whether they clap now; it matters what they do tomorrow.

[cynatnite]

2. Let's do it now!

We can't have our dems being civil at a public event!

[lancdem]

3. Brilliantly said, Will

once again.

[enigmatic]

4. I'm never surprised by this crap

Olbermann inflected his eyebrow the wrong way while talking about W; he's a traitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ugh.

[onehandle]

5. Thank you. nt

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. I am harnessing the Percherons as I type.

So we can get the drawing and quartering underway.

[Raine]

7. Agree

I can't believe how many people here don't realize that if the Democrats hadn't been polite that would be the thing the media would focus on instead of what a failure chimp's speech was.

[LynzM]

11. As it is, they're just push polling instead of reporting....

No joke, there's a thread up about it, MSNBC poll: "Were the Democrats polite enough at the SOTU?" :eyes:

[Generator]

8. Oh come on!

Only Hillary's head.

[BlackVelvet04]

9. Makes one wonder what age these posters are.....

don't you have to be at least 18 to join DU?

[Hotler]

14. Hmmmmm I'm 52 and they

didn't clap this much a year ago or two for that matter.
So what do you have to say now chump???

[Bluerthanblue]

38. I'm not quite your age but getting closer, and I found the behaviour tonite to be

very misleading and beyond "respectful" or "polite"- Rather it appeared to me that people were too afraid of standing true to their conscience, or of being held to account for not kissing up.

I don't understand how having a Basketball player stand up is so repugnant, when standing and applauding for *'s statements inciting a larger war, and increased troops and battlefields.

To each their own I guess.

[Der Blaue Engel]

16. No, actually

We have quite a number of regular posters who are in their early teens. I doubt they're the ones making those posts, though. They're usually extremely well-written and intelligent. :)

[KatyaR]

10. I know, I know--but I just want a rebellion.

I know there's decorum to follow--by god, I watched all 7 seasons of the West Wing!!!

[MonkeyFunk]

12. I think

they should've turned their backs to him, and changed "Poopy-head! Poopy-head!"

Maybe turn around once in awhile to shoot a spitball.

[cool user name]

13. Enjoy carrying on with your strawmen, WilliamPitt.

No one called for Pelosi's head but I was definitely concerned when she damn near applauded everything the Moron said.

[LSK]

15. Kucinich shook Bush's hand, so I guess there are mass suicides tonite

:sarcasm:

[G_j]

17. hundreds of thousands dead

is decorum that important?

would you clap if you were there?

[zann725]

18. Please! In a Democracy? If it WERE a mtg of Parliament, ,members'd be vocally, honestly reacting.

ENOUGH with this "loyalty"...suppressing the very "Freedom of Speech" (and Reaction) which IS the basis of the very basis of "Freedom" we allegedly defend abroad.

Every time the Dems stood and applauded, particularly at so much of the empty, meaningless and senseless statements, there is NOTHING wrong with being Democratically, freely, honestly nauseated.

[treestar]

61. You're right, it would be great if they acted more like Parliament

If I remember right, they boo and everything.

Maybe it's because they have royalty to respect - but we've got to get that the President is much more equivalent to the Prime Minister than to Queen Elizabeth.

[Seen the light]

19. That. Is. A. Joke.

Applauding for nearly everything * said is beyond "considerations of decorum, class, tradition or tactics." It's tasteless and revolting.

[cool user name]

23. Thank you. See my post # 13. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. !!

:thumbsup:

[MoonRiver]

20. The audience was packed with military personnel.

I'm sure that was no accident.

Dems had to get up and clap after DimSon said ANYTHING relating to the military. It would have appeared disrespectful to do otherwise. JMTB.

[Rex]

21. Weren't you yelled at already? Can't dems enjoy simple pleasures?

Yeah, everyone knows it is tradition. So what. You want to control how people breath too? Always defending the easy ones. :eyes:

[durrrty libby]

22. Is it wrong that I was hoping for some rotten eggs to be flung?

Oh and Webb was great. Just the right tone

[Rex]

25. Webb was awesome.

If people can't watch TV and see the difference between Webb and Bush then I guess they deserve the shitty country they vote for.

Is Webb running for POTUS? :evilgrin:

[KoKo]

24. Huh? I guess I missed all those posts you are talking about...

Maybe you could give links...:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

26. They could have kept to their seats and been completely polite.

This is the party that stated that a vote for Democrats was a vote for more terrorism. The party that staged their waggy blue finger parade at a previous SOTU. Why is it that we are always supposed to be the ones playing nice, while they can pull outrageous stunt after outrageous stunt?

I don't think anyone needs to be ousted, I think our opposition party still has no spine, even now that it actually has some power.

I worry that this lack of spine will translate directly into at least two more years of our slaughtering Iraqis. A party that cannot even bring itself to sit politely while that idiot mumbles through another complete pack of lies is really not very likely to have the courage to vote down funding for more war.

Fuck decorum Will. Decorum drowned in New Orleans. There was no funeral parade, it got rained out.

[Porcupine]

51. I'm sick of polite. Polite has got us into this mess.

I want to see members of Congress stand up and denounce *' for the bedwetter he is. Our nation is a joke and we pretend that the GOP hasn't stolen the silver.

The roof leaks the AC's broken and the pipes are making funny noises. The holes in the driveway swallowed a mail truck last week. Little Sarah is a drug addict and little Jimmy is in Iraq trying not to get blown up. In case you haven't been watching TV no man over 30 can get a stiffy without swallowing a blue pill. We are broke and the tools to make repairs on our economy have been sold to China.

Why should they be clapping?

[kimsterdemster]

27. Is this the first time...

to watch SOTU speech :eyes:, this is like crowning the QUEEN, they ALWAYS act this way. I'm 40 and to me they did a good job of not standing up EVERY time, and the Span, I'm sure, was way better than any cable channel, when it comes to showing the disgust. IMHO :toast:

[Bluerthanblue]

28. There is a difference between decorum and deception- between humility

and hypocrisy- and in my less than "highly educated" opinion, the desire to "LOOK" respectful, or to avoid being condemned for being polite AND authentic is the "accepted norm" these days I guess. (I don't mean stooping to childish, spit-balls, back turning, smirking and facial gymnastics, but by GOD- why jump to your feet, and applaud when what is being said is meaningless drivel??)

My late father was an old fashioned gentleman- very highly respected and educated. He had a way of being respectful, without selling himself out- I'm disappointed in the FALSE faces put on by many legislators at the SOTU tonite.

Speak the TRUTH- but do it with class. Act in polite but genuine ways. That doesn't include putting on false faces, in my admittedly ignorant perspective- and it doesn't have to mean acting in a disrespectful manner.

[G_j]

33. exactly n/t

[The Traveler]

29. Damn right, Will

In all respects. And the words "we will show you the way" have a special significance coming from a former Marine officer. :evilgrin:

[Wizard777]

30. It's a good number. Very Good Number.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

31. Nancy and Harry told everyone to be respectful and show dignity

so they did. good on them. :)

[DancingBear]

32. Yawn

Don't go away mad son, just go away.

But please tell us all again how "government" works.

We are so in your debt for it.

[k_jerome]

34. now this one is dead on. agreed. nt.

[deadparrot]

35. How dare you bring common sense into this?

:grr:

[aaronbees]

36. Democrats have class....

and know what decorum is, unlike that bastard Cheney; plus, many Dems stayed seated at different points during the STFU speech. Good for them, and that was a great response from Webb.

[Divernan]

37. Lack of decorum and class on DU? Are you saying someone got drunk

and started ranting on DU? I would certainly agree that anyone who got drunk and then posted lacked decorum and class. And I further agree that I also would thank God that no "certain segment" (if you meant alcoholics) holds power in government. We could call the offense PWD, i.e., posting while drunk. But I haven't seen that tonight. Got any links?

[Rex]

40. Someone got drunk?

And posted? :rofl:

[DancingBear]

41. Game.Set. Match.

New season starts May 12th.

Don't miss it. :yourock:

[Rex]

46. You know what is really bad about that?

That is my birthday. I will never be able to forget about 'it'. :(

Edit - not booze related.

[cool user name]

42. LMAO ...

Too fucking funny!

[k_jerome]

44. ouch. low blow. nt.

[underpants]

39. Webb was out of this world out of the park

BAM!

WOW I shouldn't say wow but that was pitch perfect. Just crushing. Point by point. Devastating.


White House run?

[Cobalt Violet]

43. Awwwwwwww....You're so cute when you talk like that to us.

:rofl:

But your right.

[tomp]

45. look where decorum, class, tradition, and tactics...

...have brought us. this is the bush administration we're talking about here. this is fascism staring us in the face. when the dems should have been opposing bush at every turn in his illegal administration your lovely dems were playing decorous, "classy", and traditional games. do it the same way it's always been done, some tactics.

you are so, so...predictable.

[Duncan Grant]

47. Oh, let them vent. God knows, on more than one occasion, you have. (nt)

[mzmolly]

48. I'm glad I missed it.

:hi:

[Matariki]

49. whipsong? that's a nice turn of phrase.

and, you've been playing one of those sotu drinking games, have you not?

i can tell by your post Mr. Pitt... not the content, which is spot on as usual, but the gleeful tone.

[AtomicKitten]

50. ***

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3073393&mesg_id=3073411

[donheld]

52. No sense making ourselves look bad

[Disturbed]

53. It's political theatre.

It means nothing.

[Alamom]

54. I thought it was a little more than decorum. As in, lay it on thick, make the

little smirk think he still has some friends and hit him low asap when he least expects it.

NEVER, NEVER give away your battle plans before the fight.


Also, if they had stayed seated and quiet, which "we" would have loved, a lot of the public and the media would have jumped on it with both feet.....and remembered it in 2008.

Some would not have liked a break in Tradition , no matter what he has done.


I say, let him think he is liked and has friends on both sides.


I watched faces. They stood and applauded. They were not amused. :*

[GeorgeGist]

55. Clapping on cue...

That's the kind of leadership that gets notice? Oy vey, back atcha.

[TornadoTN]

56. Probably just waiting 24 business hours before they clap

But in all seriousness, I was a little put off by the clapping myself. Now, I freely admit I'm coming from the hard line left wing where we fought the last few elections in the trenches and dealt with all of the dirty tricks and downright wrong decisions that has led this country to where we are now.

I understand decorum and I don't mind applause given in measured amounts - but I really started to notice that there wasn't much that they WEREN'T clapping for, which is very disconcerting.

[lonestarnot]

57. Must have been the clap cards.

[omega minimo]

59. Considering this twice non-elected pResident is up for impeachment and lied to start perpetual war

profiteering and invoked Goldstein last night--

I can see why some folks would be upset about the spectacle last night. Givem a break.

Webb's speech was perfect.

Even so, "decorum, class, tradition or tactics" may be the death of us and the American way of life, Will. People are still waiting to see Congress call for accountability from the Bush administration. The spectacle was a bunch of "classy" bullshit. Kinda like watching the Clinton trial..............

"I am reminded to thank God that a certain segment of DU Land holds no power in government."

Does that mean you're not big on the "new Populism" we've been hearing about?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. And how do you think it played overseas seeing our Government applauding this war criminal?

Would you give Ted Bundy applause and a standing ovation?

[Warren Stupidity]

62. Thanks for the drive by post. nt.