I know that you are burnt out and fucking furious about the way things are,

[Mike03]

So am I.

But please consider what you are saying when you say you "hate" a certain Dem candidate.

This is getting us nowhere.

Like many of you, I have my favorite candidates and none of them are "favored" by the MSM.

But there is not one major Dem candidate I'm ashame of, or who could not do a better job than this piece of shit Bush or Cheney.

Cynicism and paranoia have become like my brother and sister, since Bush was re elected. But I am trying to fight this, and we need to trust someone.

We need to attempt to discriminate between fantasy and reality.

[cali]

1. you are so right.

If it's any consolation, I think most people are blowing off steam about their frustration with things. And I think in some ways it's easier to direct anger at dems rather than repukes.

Thanks for the reminder.

[lonestarnot]

2. bushitler was never elected in the first fucking instance, so how could he be "re" elected?

[cali]

4. Are you even in the right thread?

Have you perchance tossed back a few too many? That clearly wasn't the point the OP was trying to make. His use of the word "re-elected" is wrong, but why focus on that?

[lonestarnot]

5. Can you read?

[cali]

7. why yes, and rather well at that, but

didn't fully express my point and that's why I edited my post. You're attacking the OP for using the wrong word and ignoring the gist of his post.

[lonestarnot]

9. So is that a new rule? Can't do that?

[Mike03]

6. Thank you

You know how much I respect your posts, so comments from you mean a lot to me.

[pnwmom]

3. There seems to be so much displaced anger.

We can't strike out at Bush, so we lash out where we can.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

8. "Hating" anyone gets us no where. "Hate" is a RW predator game.

"HATING" solves nothing.

Pull the plug on hate-inciteful teevees/radios and the distinction between fantasy and reality will become quickly apparent.

[cali]

10. I don't even have TV and haven't for years

yet you and I have a very different opinion on what constitutes reality.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

11. Let's discuss our differing realities.

I'll start, but only if you are willing to be open about yours,...okay?

[cali]

14. I'm not sure where you're going with this, but

I am open about what I think and believe.

[Mike03]

12. Cali, I have not had TV either

It's just that since I've had high speed internet, since April of this year, I've been able to watch the debates or CSPAN investigations.

Mostly, my news comes from the internet, often from European websites, newspapers or short wave sometimes, like BBC.

[cali]

13. I went over to friends last night to watch the debate.

I decided I really haven't missed anything. I wish they just gave each blocks of time to answer the same question.