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[autorank]

HE'S THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!

[autorank]

1. "Two different counries...benefits are not being fairly shared."

[RufusTFirefly]

5. Obviously a Communist

Hey dare he bring up the difference between the salaries of CEOs and workers!?

[autorank]

27. "dispossed workers at the bottom threatening revolt" (1900's oh yeah!

[davidwparker]

79. The working class has to work all year to make what a CEO makes

before he swings his feet out of bed in one day.

I paraphrased, but that's the intent.

[midnight]

115. You are so close it doesn't matter, but what does is the obscene

pay inequality that we have been struggling to pay for life here in the United States of Corporatism.

[autorank]

120. Meaning of picture on the picture in the Original Post

Webb is in Arlington, VA at the end of the campaign. He's holding two combat boots in his
hands. Those belong to his son in Iraq. He's thanking Virginia, in the caption from his site,
for electing him and for giving him the chance to help his son and others wrongfully committed
to the Iraq war. Amazing...this guy's for real.

[adigal]

149. THe Freepers were calling him a Communist

That is so 70s!! Many voters don't even know what they are talking about, a Communist. It is called fairness.

[TZ]

159. Very funny..

the Secretary of the Navy under Reagan is a commie, huh? What does that say about their great leader then....:rofl:

[autorank]

180. Well, I just call him comrade;) You're right but it's really "so 50's"

Didn't work then and now people will just way WTF?

He's our closer - like Goose Gossage (great reliever). You bring him in at a critical point in the game
and he just blows it by them...100mph and they don't even see it.

Finally!!!

[LiberalEsto]

164. That's John Edward's theme

It's a good one, and I'm glad Webb saw fit to use it, because it resonates with people like me from the Other America.

[citygal]

2. Finally!

Clear up the shrub's lies and BS.

[autorank]

44. Rokken. I've been waiting since Webb was anounced. He delivered.

[autorank]

3. "Wages & salaries at an all time low...even though productivity is...all time high."

[autorank]

4. "The middle class ... is losing it's place at the table."

[autorank]

6. "we should measure the health of our society...at it's base...the living conditions on main street"

[Idioteque]

7. *Sigh*

He should stick to Iraq. This protectionist crap turns a lot of people off, myself included.

[Cobalt Violet]

18. It turns me on.

It's about time someone talk about it. We're not all set.

[autorank]

45. Amen - it's the equity issue - share the wealth. He's a "leveler" ;)

[Idioteque]

62. Yeah it's called "socialism".

I'm a liberal. I believe in free markets and I believe that the government has the responsibility to enact a safety net for those hurt by the market.

They should not, however, be "protecting" jobs or setting prices or interfering in the free market that is responsible for economic growth.

I am a college student. I come from a working class family with a single mom and deadbeat dad. I am not wealthy by any means although I certainly understand that there are those who are less fortunate than I am. They are not helped by destroying the market and restricting the freedom of people to trade and do business.

[ms liberty]

74. We don't have a "free market" now, or have you not noticed?

In a free market, the government wouldn't be giving huge retroactive tax breaks to oil corps. Or billions in free advertising and marketing thru the Dept of Commerce to big corps like Dole Foods, or ConAgra, or IBM, or whoever. Or huge tax breaks to corps for MOVING THEIR MANUFACTURING JOBS OVERSEAS. Get a clue. We don't have a free market.

[Idioteque]

85. I'm glad the Democratic Congress removed the oil company tax breaks.

I don't like the fact that they put it into subsidies for other forms of energy. The market should determine which forms of energy are profitable. IF the government wants to tax carbon emissions I'm down with that but I think trying to pick winners in the renewable energy insdustry is almost as bad as sucking up to the oil industry.

(Actually it's not almost as bad...the oil companies are little bit more evil than that :P.)

[kestrel91316]

177. I have duly noted your concern for PROFIT above all other considerations.

Like survival of the friggin' human race.

[Freeusfromthechurch]

132. I'll second that - Liberty... Well said

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

76. It isn't about socialism. It's about fair trading arrangements

Currently Pig Vomit Inc sets up shop in China and moves a US factory there.

There is no minimum wage, no OSHA standards for safety and no environmental regulations.

Pig Vomit, Inc pays the Chinese workers 5 bucks per day and then sells the goods in the best markets available, the US and Western Europe while fucking over the workers in China by piss poor safety on the job and no environmental safeguards.

Simultaneously, they fuck over the US and European workers by moving the jobs offshore as fast as their greedy asses can manage it.

Pig Vomit, Inc. should have to observe US/European environmental and worker safety standards or not be allowed to sell their goods in the US and Europe.

Pig Vomit, Inc doesn't care if the American middle class survives or not. It just wants to add an additional 12 cents per share profit next quarter, so the CEO can get his million dollar bonus for the quarter.

If Pig Vomit, Inc is allowed to continue this trend continues, the US will be a third world country with a big military in short order.

[calmblueocean]

127. Perfectly said.

If we don't hold imports to the same standards we hold American made products, we don't have any standards.

[YOY]

163. This highly liberal MBA thanks you!

Because you are spot on.

Don't forget to mention that they are fucking over their demand (purchasers)for the sake of short term high profit. The long term sustainability of their tactic is not only ridiculous, but self-destructive.

I'm all for laissez-faire market in theory, but this is what happens when it runs out of control.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

166. I have a BA in Economics. I believe in regulated free markets

You have to limit the size and market share of corporations, otherwise they will collude to maximize profits, just like supply and demand theory say they will. They will also bribe public officials when they get wealthy enough to dominate the countries they operate in, complicating the monopoly problem with crony capitalism problems.

That is where the regulation comes in.

[YOY]

168. Oligopoly...which I consider just as dangerous are bound to do just that

and are far more prone to public and legal acceptance due to them being percieved as less of a threat compared to monopolies.

I'd be keen to see just how they would handle such a regulation of industry. Whether it would be the same across the board, work within borders created by industrial standards, or if they would create different rules/laws on a case-by-case basis...

[Morgana LaFey]

170. and believe me, "short order" is upon us

breathing down our collective necks.

[femrap]

80. Wake up....your college is not teaching you what

you need to learn. The 'free market' (capitalism) is gone. We are ruled by Corporations who demand NO competition. NONE.

Wonder why we have don't national health care? If we did, folks could become entrepreneurs...they could create and start businesses on their own. They could leave the Corporate Bureaucracy. But they can't....not without taking the huge risk of NO health insurance for themselves and their family.

Of course, the Corporations encourage this....they want people to be stuck...stuck working for them. Stuck working in fear.

We don't have a free market....very far from it. There is no competition. We have conglomerates that squash competition. These conglomerates encourage lots of bureaucracy for the small business owner....making it more and more difficult to compete with the Corporation.

Corporations are killing us....they are the root of the problem.

[bluescribbler]

178. Amen to that.

I don't love my job. It's OK, but not great. I would like to look around and to try to find something I would like better. "Experts" predict that 2007 will see a record number of job offers. So now would appear to be a good time to start looking for a new job. Except that I don't dare to leave my job. I can't afford to take the risk.

My wife is very ill. Stage 4 melanoma. She has already outlived the statistical life expectancy for her diagnosis, and I hope she continues to do so. I have very good insurance through my job. Without it, we would be bankrupt and homeless. Or else, she would have had to forgo treatments which probably are keeping her alive.

Now I know that HIPPA says that her coverage cannot be denied for preexisting conditions if I can show that she has been covered for the previous 12 months, (Thank you President Clinton). But with any new job, there is always a risk that it won't work out. Maybe the job isn't quite what I expected it to be. Maybe my skills aren't really what the new company needs. Maybe the new boss is a psychopath. Then I'm out of a job and faced with the choice of going without health insurance, (not an option), or paying out of pocket for COBRA, (not affordable). Neither option is realistic for me and my wife. So I'm stuck in a job that I don't love because Corporate America likes it that way.

[xxqqqzme]

195. I have been in your situation (only it was me needing the

health insurance)and I can empathize. There are no options in that situation. Most people have no appreciation of how rapidly you can find yourself between that rock 'n hard place.

[info being]

184. You're absolutely right

Anybody who doesn't see it needs to read "When Corporations Rule the World."

[amandabeech]

113. Free trade works among countries of similar wealth and political

structure. Each may have an advantage with respect to some element of production, but no country has an absolute advantage on all counts.

A poor authoritarian country like China has an absolute advantage over the U.S. in manufacturing in its extremely low wages, unbelievably slave-like working conditions and complete lack of enforcement of any environmental laws.

To my recollection none of the early promoters of the theory of comparative advantage contemplated a situation in which one country had an absolute advantage.

I do not know of any example of the C.A. theory working to the betterment of working stiffs in a developed country when it is in a "free trade" relationship with a poor country with China-like conditions.

Obviously, your profs aren't talking about this. You're young. You'll see how badly this will work out for at least 40% of the U.S. workforce in your lifetime. I hope that you'll see things differently when you have more experience in life.

P.S. I'm from the working class and I can see how "free trade" is affecting folks in my home are of the country. Not everyone is college material or white collar material. Unless there are respectable places in society for the others, there will be a lot, and I mean a lot, of trouble in the future of the type that economists can't seem to quantify and thus disregard.

[malaise]

142. I suggest that you sign up for

some history courses.

[adigal]

150. The game is rigged with tax cuts for those who ship our jobs

overseas. Instead, if you want to pay someone in Bangladesh $50 a week to make clothes, we should tax the hell out of those clothes coming in to protect the average worker.

That is NOT socialism.

[we can do it]

158. Boy Are Your Eyes Going To Be Opened When You Join the Real World

[HughBeaumont]

162. Read my journal.

There is NO goddamned free market. There is only corporations and the serfs (that would be YOU, dear chicken for Colonel Sanders) they keep well pinned under their boot heels.

"You're either free trade or for protectionism, it's just that simple!" is so painfully black and white it's sickening. Take that neo-lib shit elsewhere. Unbridled corporatism is racing EVERY middle class; American, Indian, Asian, European, etc to the bottom of the well. Read Thomas Hartmann and Byron Dorgan for the reality of what you would call an ideal world.

[LiberalEsto]

165. Richard Nixon did a LOT of price-setting

He imposed stiff wage and price controls during his second term. Nobody could get a raise (unless, of course, they were a CEO)for years.

Was he a Socialist?

There is nothing Socialistic about insisting that American businesses that accept and solicit huge tax breaks -- including breaks on local property taxes -- return the favor by not shipping good jobs overseas. OK, sure, they're free to leave -- but then they should reimburse us taxpayers for all the "welfare" they've sucked out of us.

My hard-earned tax dollars should not be handed out as welfare to corporations that ship jobs overseas or import foreign workers on H1B and similar visas to take away jobs from Americans.

Case in point: Fannie Mae, the mortgage giant, does not pay one cent of property taxes in Washington DC. I'm sure it enjoys all sorts of other tax breaks. It is not a part of the federal government -- it is a quasi-federal organization with stockholders, etc.

So why should Fannie be allowed to replace nearly all its computer people with cheap labor from India, leaving numerous Americans out of work, on our dime?

[kestrel91316]

176. We don't have a free market. We have extremely costly

CORPORATE WELFARE. It is destroying this nation and the WORKING FOLKS who have always made it great.

Run along now and remember to vote Libertarian.

[PurgedVoter]

183. The free market is a total myth.

The stock exchange is totally regulated, and tends to fail dramatically when unregulated. Look at history. A "free market" would not have strong monopolies. Look at patents, they are totally against the concept of free market. The truth is that a corporation that can ignore consequence and maintain its perks is what is being called a free market. Companies seeking to be unrestrained by environmental issue, ethical business practice, and community regulations, generally call for free markets.
The same corporations that desire "free markets" are also against clear and honest labeling. They tend to argue that consumer ignorance is what causes low quality, while desiring no consequences when the deceive investors and customers. Where does not letting the consumer know that a product is the result of genetic manipulation, untested or tested beef, organic or fair trade values. "Free Market Values" tend to reward producers over end consumers. A functional market must reward both. This require regulation. Other wise low production values are unfairly rewarded and the final result is low grade goods. "Free Market" and faith in the market are in direct opposition.

Of course you would rather have no laws restricting you and all of the protection of the law. What a wonderful world that would be. Solves all the legal problems, it even reduces crime. While allowing criminal behavior on your part.

Free Market and blame the victim mentality go hand in hand.

I don't mean to be offensive, I simply want to get past the double-speak deceit. Anyone calling for a "free" market is either participating in a scam or fooled by that scam. Over regulation is a horrid thing, it can kill and limit progress and commerce. However the opposite is just as bad. History has shown this over and over.

There are few simple answers in economics. Free trade and free markets seem like a simple answer. A magic bullet, a cure for all financial ills. The problem is that it is also a myth. A myth that is quite beloved by people who have already won the game.

[AikidoSoul]

196. You need to study this topic much more before you can be so sure of yourself

What I hope you will dig into is how the game is fixed, and not really a "free" market at all. It's a scam, but the words sound great.

We live in Orewellian times.

Look how CODEX is destroying the "free"market you talk about. It's all about coporate control of markets w/o regulatory obstacles. Safety and environment screwed. Smaller producers screwed because they're left in the ditch.

Study this. Make this your area of expertise.

[Jim Sagle]

55. Fuckin' A.

[autorank]

67. F'ING A is right. I've been waiting in VA 24 years for this moment...

A real politician...in the best sense...like the founding fathers.

A bright guy, with a great record who really cares about the country and the broad middle
class.

He's not, nor has he ever been, a "Southern" conservative. In the middle of a tight general
election, he opposed the flag burning amendment on constitutional grounds. He's for real.

Glad you liked him!!!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

39. Some of us...

Don't have stock portfolios that include offshore investments.

Or any portfolio at all. It's about time someone spoke up for us, y'know?

[autorank]

Webb is our man. He's also very positive on race issues. He makes

perfect sense on how our party needs to behave and think to unite working people
and end the race based and artificial divide between working class whites and blacks.

This is profound stuff and he'll talk more about it to our benefit, the country I mean.

[FredStembottom]

47. Pick up some Thom Hartmann

or tune in his show. He is very pesuasive that the only reason we had a large middle class is because of protectionism.

That large middle classes are un-natural and require government regulation in order to appear.

He has formidable evidence to share on this point with all.

Very convincing.

[Flarney]

173. Right on...

...I attempted to paraphrase Thom Hartmann myself (#172). He's awesome.

:toast:

[WinkyDink]

52. I'm a little leery of our being owned by China, personally.

[Freeusfromthechurch]

130. I think he did a wonderful job and if he is as reel as he looks.

I'll vote for him as the next VP with Gore.

That's right, Gore / Webb 2008

[Lasher]

136. Webb won't run in 2008

He said when he campaigned for Senator that he would serve out his term. Check it out, a man who keeps his word. :thumbsup:

[Zynx]

161. Do you dismiss his entire economic argument as simply being protectionist

? Because if you are then I say you are the one being protectionist...protectionist of gross CEO bonuses and salaries that often top $25 million, $50 million, and even $200 million.

[HughBeaumont]

167. The "lot of people" meaning . . .

Republicant's and neo-libs, right?

You're FOR destroying a worker's livelihood so another middle class can get lifted into just-above-poverty with still-lousy living conditions?

[Flarney]

172. The most thriving economies in the world practice Protectionism...

Germany, Japan, China...in fact most of the people we trade with ("buy from" would be more appropriate) practice Protectionism. In the last 30 years of our insane "free market" trade policies, we've gone from the worlds largest creditor and largest importer of raw materials/exporter of finished goods to the opposite of that. We're now the worlds largest debtor and importer of finished goods/exporter of raw materials. It's all because we don't protect our domestic industries like our trading partners do. How long do you think we can sustain a trade deficit of 800 billion every year?

What do you have against protectionism?

[tabasco]

8. He's doing very well.

Go USA!

[autorank]

46. And he's NOT conservative - he's progressive, pro working class!!!

[bullwinkle428]

9. He is TOTALLY about the preservation/enhancement of the middle class!

Fucking awesome message...I love that he continues to hammer it!

[autorank]

49. He's our secret weapon. Very smart guy, not intimidated, no bull shit.

He can't stand Bush and he was dismissive. His last line was great.

Cooparate or we'll do it for you. Don't f' with us, we know your game.

Short and to the point but powerful. Awesome.

[bullwinkle428]

97. There's no "measured political-speak" with him at all. Everything

is so wonderfully and clearly presented, without any kind of dressing-up or BS. I'm glad more and more Americans are getting to see what this guy is all about!

[me b zola]

189. That was a great ending, wasn't it?!

I'm really liking Webb. :thumbsup:




How ya doing, autorank? :hi:

[autorank]

10. Dems..."working to get the right things done for the right people for the right reasons."

[DesEtoiles]

89. a thing of beauty

[GeneCosta]

11. 6 years of talking about energy...

and now that the Dems have power, action must be taken.

Brilliant.

[autorank]

51. Welcome to DU!!!!! Webb is terrific. He's brilliant but plain spoken!!!

[wellst0nev0ter]

12. Don't Give Him Credit For The Stock Markets

The only thing that happened is that we got back to 2001 levels. Good goddamn job.

[autorank]

60. Sweet!!!!!!!! Here's how Webb smaked Allen around - mind blowing!!!

September 14, 2006
Allen’s Deferment: Why Join the Military When You Can Play Combat in Virginia?
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/release.php?id=147
(Arlington, VA)—At the beginning of this year’s Virginia Senate race, Senator George Allen “promised a positive campaign, based on both the principles he has stressed and his proven record of performance.” That was a lie. Today, Allen released the first negative television ad of this campaign against Jim Webb, and has plans for many more. Enter the “Real George Allen.”

As a Virginia columnist wrote recently, “nasty combat” is “the stuff that delights Allen and at which, frankly, he excels.” There is no doubt this election cycle is no exception. With White House strategist Karl Rove planning negative campaign strategies in Virginia, Senator Allen recently defended his buddy saying he admires Rove “a great deal,” and that Rove “is a good friend.”

George Allen has even “whimsically” referred to himself as “Baby Newt,” a reference to former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, renowned for his negative, cutthroat political tactics.

“George Allen has a clear history as the most negative political candidate in Virginia history. We expect him to cement that reputation in the course of this election,” said Webb spokesperson Kristian Denny Todd. “Of course he is going negative. He’s a bully. And now, with Virginians learning who the real George Allen is and with Jim Webb quickly catching him in the polls, he is wounded and desperate. George Allen can’t run on his record in the Senate. The only thing he can and will do is attack Jim Webb's real record of leadership.”

It is only a matter of time before the real George Allen outdoes himself with nasty campaign strategies. Virginians want real leadership, not Karl Rove’s dirty tricks. Unfortunately, Allen will spend the rest of the campaign clinging to them. In every race Allen has been in he has used negative attacks again and again in order to win the race, sometimes with a staged apology after the damage has been done. Let the record speak for itself:

2005: Columnist Said Allen Has Taste for Nasty Combat. A Richmond Times-Dispatch columnist said “nasty combat” is “the stuff that delights Allen and at which, frankly, he excels.”

2000: Allen Sent Surrogate Speaker to Personally Attack Opponent. George Allen sent out a Republican delegate as a surrogate speaker to personally attack his Senate opponent by publicly alluding to the incumbent’s past relations with Miss Virginia.

1997: Allen Used Nasty Tactics to Try and Win Republican Control. Allen launched “an unprecedented and truly nasty drive for Republican control of the General Assembly. It poisoned the traditional bipartisan comity in the State Capitol, but resulted in a net change of just two seats in the balance of power.”

1994: Allen Used Violent Campaign Language During Rally. Allen used violent and inappropriate insults against people in the Democratic Party to excite an audience of supporters at the 1994 Republican convention in Virginia. Allen said he wanted Republicans not just to beat the other side, but to “figuratively smash their soft teeth down their whining throats.” On a separate occasion Allen promised “to kick the liberals’ soft teeth down their throats.”

1993: Allen Was Unapologetic Towards Flier That Implied His Opponent Was a Nazi Sympathizer Who Stood With Adolf Hitler. Allen flaunted a flier that showed his opponent standing next to Adolf Hitler in a Nazi salute. Allen claimed the flier was unsanctioned, but was completely unapologetic saying, “You have to have a thick skin and a sense of humor and common sense in politics, and the people will see through ludicrous comments.”

1991: Allen Lied About Opponent’s Social Security Position. George Allen had the National Republican Congressional Committee, write and pay for a “disputed letter charging that Allen’s opponent would cut off Social Security payments to the elderly. The letter, which targeted retired voters, said that recipients could ‘kiss their Social Security goodbye’ if Allen’s opponent were elected, citing her support for cutting the Social Security payroll tax. This was a distortion of her position.”

1991: Allen Aired Ultra-Negative Ad That Superimposed Opponent With “Victory to Iraq Banner.” In one of the most negative television ads in Virginia’s history, Allen aired an ad that “questioned the wisdom - if not the patriotism – of the Democratic candidate, who opposed the war. In the spot, a photo of was superimposed over an antiwar demonstration that prominently displayed a ‘Victory to Iraq’ banner.” Allen apologized for the ad after the campaign saying he regretted, but the damage was already done. ; Advertising Age, 11/18/91]

[Lasher]

137. S&P 500 average annual growth for the past 6 years: 2.59%

I am amazed Republicans have the guts to even mention the stock market's performance during Junior's tenure. S&P 500 growth in all the past six years combined does not equal one average year under Clinton.

[jasmeel]

13. CEO salary vs the average person! Damn!

[autorank]

114. He's in their face...for real. This is a huge issue and it resonates.

It's about time.

We've got a heavy hitter, who won't back down when the opponent is on the ropes.

"Born fighting" was his campaign motto...it's a real, straight forward warning to
people who mess with him (see his press releases). You poke him, he knocks you
down;)

Check this out, sweet!

Oh my God! These guys were flame throwers. I got to meet his press secretary on election day
and congratulated him on the best kick ass press releases ever for a Democrat in my memory.

General Collection of Press Releases
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/general_index.php



une 27, 2006
Webb Campaign Blasts Allen Campaign for “Weak-Kneed Attacks” Against
Men and Women in Uniform
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/release.php?id=57
Arlington—The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb today called the attacks on Webb’s patriotism by Allen’s campaign, “weak-kneed attacks by cowards” and demanded that Allen and his campaign apologize.

“George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb’s position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards. George Felix Allen Jr. needs to apologize to Jim Webb and to all men and women who have served our nation,” Webb spokesman Steve Jarding said.

[Pithy Cherub]

14. Jim Webb is very good!

He's concise and forceful with a Presence! A tone of cooeration! Love IT, Just Love it.

The other Virginian with the eyebrow that gave the Democratic response.... runs away :hide:

[DesEtoiles]

90. controlled kick-ass - that's Webb

[autorank]

119. He's thought this through...he's comfortable with his positions and the rhetoric matches.

That's what I call HIGHLY PERSUASIVE.

Damn, proud to be a Virginian...like the old days of TJ and GW (George Washington;)

Rokken!

[autorank]

15. "...painfully endured a mis managed war." His picture

[Exultant Democracy]

16. This is great. We need to keep talking about the middle class.

People are feeling the squeeze. Middle Class, Iraq, Clean Energy this is very good.

[AdvancedProgress]

17. Go Jim Go!!!

[chookie]

19. ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( S W O O N . . . . ) ) ) ) ) ) )

I love this guy.

Thank you Virginia!!!

[autorank]

71. We're trilled with him. He's the first VA politician who is really exciting in

my memory here - 24 years.

He's smart and doesn't take any crap. He's not interestedin being accepted in
"the gentleman's club of the Senate." He knows we don't have much time to fix
things.

He'll keep moving up. Who knows;)

[autorank]

20. "The President took us into the war recklessly."

[stellanoir]

129. frigging understatement

Though I loved his over all presentation.

He's a straight shooten' gem IMHO.

[dgauss]

21. A bit of reality in the midst of a PR driven alternate reality.

[adigal]

151. That is exactly what I thought - oh, someone speaking truthfully

How refreshing. Then Hillary and Obama came on. Blech.

[autorank]

22. Shift to attack, like a true Virginian..."born fighting" This is great!!!

http://www.webbforsenate.com/home.php

[eppur_se_muova]

61. "Born fighting"? I thought your state motto was "sic semper tyrannis" ...

but either one is good.

[autorank]

98. True, but 'born fighting' was Webb's campaign motto. Heres "show him the way"

[eppur_se_muova]

193. Bu**sh** would hit his head on the doorframe. You know he would.

Other than that, yeah, that's The Way.

(And "born fighting" is supposedly the Irish motto, though I never learned that through my Irish ancestry.)

[autorank]

23. "Economic imbalance..reminded of position Theodore Roosevelt faced...robber barrons"

[quiet.american]

24. I like how he started out right away referencing Katrina. n/t

[rudy23]

185. Me too! nt

[porphyrian]

25. Ooo! He just said "robber barons" and "revolt!" - n/t

[femrap]

87. I loved that....robber barons!

When was the last time you heard those words on national TV?

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. President Webb??

[autorank]

101. You bet but first this little detail;)

(Anyone can be elected Speaker of the House...Nancy steps aside for just a bit, Webbs elected,
but first...)

[Olney Blue]

28. Great speech, Senator Webb!

[tabasco]

29. Talking about the robber baron era!

He's right on the money!!

[trashcanistanista]

35. Webb just said

"if he does not, we will be showing him the way!!!!!" Does he mean the way out?? Impeachment hint????

[Cabcere]

81. I really thought

that he was going to say "we will be showing him the DOOR" at first, but this works too. I am proud of my Senator. :)

[autorank]

72. Isn't that perfect...robber Barron's read "media Barron's";)

[babylonsister]

30. I am so impressed!!!!!! He's terrrifffic! nt

[autorank]

77. Finally!!!!! A bright bright guy who is a fighter! I'm so proud too...he's no longer the"sleeper."

Now the word is out, "born fighting" for the American people, Jim Webb.

[autorank]

84. babylonsister...You, of all people, would enjoy his press releases;)

Oh my God! These guys were flame throwers. I got to meet his press secretary on election day
and congratulated him on the best kick ass press releases ever for a Democrat in my memory.

General Collection of Press Releases
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/general_index.php



une 27, 2006
Webb Campaign Blasts Allen Campaign for “Weak-Kneed Attacks” Against
Men and Women in Uniform
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/release.php?id=57
Arlington—The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb today called the attacks on Webb’s patriotism by Allen’s campaign, “weak-kneed attacks by cowards” and demanded that Allen and his campaign apologize.

“George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb’s position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards. George Felix Allen Jr. needs to apologize to Jim Webb and to all men and women who have served our nation,” Webb spokesman Steve Jarding said.

[babylonsister]

96. Thank you, autorank! He really wowed me! nt

[autorank]

102. "Straight shooter" and he's not in it for ego or money. A true patriot...

And those press releases...we have not seen rhetoric like that in Virgnia since colonial
times when the press here was absolutely wild... Every slander by George Felix Allen was
met with a response that was just short of nuclear;)

:nuke:

[babylonsister]

105. Hey, the guy might have a future in politics, ya think?

:rofl: And now I really want to read his books.

[autorank]

31. "When comes the end" Ike quoted..."these presidents took the right type of action."

[JohnnyLib2]

32. quoting Eisenhower in contrast with *

This is a classic, folks!

[Reverend_Smitty]

34. An amazing speech

[autorank]

112. Wasn't it though...we've had such modest politicians here, nobody expected it.

Virginia has seen the revolutionary sprit reborn.

It's about time and we're ready!!!

[AdvancedProgress]

33. Show HIM the Way JIM!!!!!!!!

[autorank]

86. Here's "showing him the way" in picture form;)

http://re3.mm-a4.yimg.com/image/2893419571

[autorank]

36. Out of Iraq: "If he does we will join him. If he doesn't, we will show him the way" (out the door)

[trashcanistanista]

40. That's how I heard it too!!!!

[trashcanistanista]

43. Lindsey Graham ..

Cut off funding? Is he advocating that?

[autorank]

111. Welcome to DU!!!! Here's what Webb meant - "show him the way."

[Manifestor_of_Light]

88. "Show him what the door is for"

Old Rodgers and Hammerstein line from "South Pacific".

[autorank]

37. STUNNING, WELL DELIVERED, HIT THE NEEDED POINTS - VICTORY

[qanda]

38. I was very impressed with him

[autorank]

64. I've lived in VA since 1983 - finally a people's politician - a real fighter. I'm proud!!!

I was precinct captain on electoin day this year. i was sweating it out for Webb.

Personally, I believe the exit poll for VA which had him 5% up. No way it was as close
as the returns had it. Allen turned down a free recount...telling.

Webb will be there as long as he wants. He was at a real $$$ disadvantage in the campaign.

We love him here and the mood in VA is rapidly shirfing to populist, with some restraint (Virginians
don't like to appear too worked up, Webb was pissed by VA standards;)

Great response.

[Nictuku]

41. WOW!!

[nookiemonster]

42. The Man is On Fire!!!!!!!!!

:)

eom

[autorank]

116. nookie, take a look;)

Oh my God! These guys were flame throwers. I got to meet his press secretary on election day
and congratulated him on the best kick ass press releases ever for a Democrat in my memory.

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une 27, 2006
Webb Campaign Blasts Allen Campaign for “Weak-Kneed Attacks” Against
Men and Women in Uniform
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/release.php?id=57
Arlington—The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb today called the attacks on Webb’s patriotism by Allen’s campaign, “weak-kneed attacks by cowards” and demanded that Allen and his campaign apologize.

“George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb’s position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards. George Felix Allen Jr. needs to apologize to Jim Webb and to all men and women who have served our nation,” Webb spokesman Steve Jarding said.

[WinkyDink]

48. Okay, now whom do I adore: Keef or Jimmayyy?!

[Cabcere]

94. Personally, I love 'em both

but as a Virginian who helped elect Jim Webb to the Senate, I might be just sliiiiightly biased towards him. ;)

[autorank]

122. Welcome to DU!!! Need more Virginians;) Kieth O, Jim Webb - both rock the house.

:hi:

[Cabcere]

131. Thank you!

:hi: Couldn't agree more. Both are great guys...I believe it's called speaking truth to power, and boy do they do it well. :)

[girl gone mad]

50. Really great job, Jim!

Thank you.

[mod mom]

53. I'm jealous-you got yourself a keeper! What a guy!

:hi:

[autorank]

103. He's the real deal. No desire to be in "the gentleman's club" - lookie here;)

This is what he meant about "showing him (Bush) the way."

[mod mom]

152. Yep, the news from the Libby trial overshadowed * last night, as did Sen Webb.

Nothing would make me happier than to see this cabal stand trial for war crimes. I loved how Webb used the term robber barons-speaking truth to power! This guy definitely has a bright future!

[dgauss]

54. Worth rewinding the TiVo and listening to again.

[LSK]

56. K&R

[underpants]

75. "BIG TIME"

Out of the FUCKING park

[autorank]

117. ...and you should hear him when he's pissed off...oh lard!

http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/release.php?id=57
Arlington—The campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb today called the attacks on Webb’s patriotism by Allen’s campaign, “weak-kneed attacks by cowards” and demanded that Allen and his campaign apologize.

“George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb’s position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards. George Felix Allen Jr. needs to apologize to Jim Webb and to all men and women who have served our nation,” Webb spokesman Steve Jarding said.

This was just a warm up. No wonder Allen didn't ask for a recount!

[LSK]

133. I remember that was posted here when it happened

:thumbsup:

[bleever]

57. Home freakin' run.

You got yourself one hell of a senator there, autorank.

:woohoo:

[autorank]

107. He's for real...no bullshit here. Just motivated by loyalty to his constituents.

ALL OF THEM...he's progressive on race, will discuss the issue; he opposed the
flag burning amentment in the middle of a tight campaign becasue it was not right;
he smacked Allen back, his press releases (see up thread) did, every time Allen
made a dirty remark - much harder than he was hit; AND he's not beholden to anyone.
Big money avoided him...too smart;)

:hi:

[bleever]

118. Very happy for you

and all of us, tonight.

He's got some Lincoln quality cred...seriously.

[Porcupine]

58. Finally!!! A Democratic Senator with some BALLS!!!

I'm so freaking sick of hearing how if I just spent a few more years in school I could be rich. Or how because some little girl in florida and her mom got rich I shouldn't complain about not having health care.

The work I have been doing is important. It deserves a fair standard of living.

Web seems to get that.

[salin]

59. WOW!

I haven't been as impressed with a political response in quite a long time. Excellent job, Senator.

[dailykoff]

63. AWESOME!

and it's about time!

[Megahurtz]

65. Great Job Duuuuuude!!!!!!

Excellent!!!:party::beer:

[democrank]

66. Webb was terrific.

Sat there with two large brass ones and gave a riveting response. Hope other Democrats were taking notes on how to do it.

[autorank]

68. Link for Webbs Press Releases in Allen Race - These KICK ASS, truly!!!

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November 6, 2006
1 Days To Go
On Iraq, Allen Has No Clue

Do Virginians know that George Allen used his position on the Foreign Relations Committee to exaggerate and mislead the American public about Iraq and the nature of the threat it posed? >>More

November 5, 2006
George Allen and Rudy Giuliani….
NOT.....Two Peas In A Pod

George Allen campaigned today with Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani praised Allen saying “George Allen understands what it takes to make our communities safer.” >>More

November 5, 2006
Webb v. Allen:
48 Seconds v. 48 Gaffes; 48 Interviews Given v. 48 Closed Events

Those zany comics at the Allen campaign, clearly with a lot of time if not money on their hands, yesterday put out a press release claiming that Jim Webb must not have much to say because of a (they claimed) 48 second campaign speech Webb gave at Norfolk State University yesterday. (Truth long ago has been a casualty in Camp Allen). >>More

November 5, 2006
2 Days To Go
The Apologist – Allen’s Illegal Immigration Dilemma

Do Virginians know that Senator Allen made excuses for a Bush appointee that was caught aiding an illegal immigrant? >>More

November 4, 2006
3 Days To Go
More Stock Trouble: Allen’s Not So Noble Support for Offshore Loopholes

Do Virginians know that George Allen owned stock in an energy company that moved its headquarters offshore to avoid U.S. taxes? And do Virginians know that while George Allen owned such stock he voted for legislation to allow tax loopholes that benefit big corporations which shelter profits overseas? >>More

[LuckyLib]

69. Outstanding! Articulate, credible, succint, and on target.

Everything Chimpy could never hope to be. This speech was a home run of the highest caliber! YESSSSS!

[Swamp Rat]

70. I wish he was my senator... we have this piece of shit:

:(

[autorank]

110. Vitter bears "the mark of Bush"

:rofl:

[davidwparker]

73. He was good wasn't he. I was watching the Dan Rather coverage on

HDNet. I can't wait to hear all the commentary tomorrow contrasting *'s speech and Webb's speech.

[ms liberty]

78. AWESOME - He called them "ROBBER BARONS!" YES!!!! n/t

[AspenRose]

82. No wonder my republican husband didn't want to listen to him

He probably would have LEARNED something.

But to his credit, DH didn't watch the SOTU either. Take your victories where you can get them....

Webb ROCKS!

[berni_mccoy]

83. BEST. SOTU. RESPONSE. EVER!!!

[Tin Man]

91. You know what I was thinking? How much Webb reminded me of Obama and his keynote address in 2004.

Great themes, well structured and articulated, delivered with confidence and poise.

It's not often one hears a speaker with the ability to communicate so clearly/effectively/succintly his ideas. Outstanding up-and-comers we have in the Dem party.

[graywarrior]

93. My thoughts exactly.

[myrna minx]

95. I agree. He pulls no punches. That was amazing. n/t

[wicket]

92. Love him

:kick:

[Bobbie Jo]

99. What a Democratic treasure!

Thank you Senator Webb! :kick:

[ThatsMyBarack]

100. I would have seen this....

....if it didn't follow *s SOTFU.

[Vadem]

104. Yessssss! I worked, I donated and I voted for Webb!........n/t

[autorank]

109. Ditto...I was pct cptn on election day. It rocked, all positive for him 65-35%

Big ass precinct too;)

Now is this the type of Virginia politician we want or what!

Rokken the nation.

[The River]

121. More of the Same

First vote I've cast since 68 that I really felt good about.
I'm just sorry we didn't boot out Goode and replace him with Weed.
Replace Warner(R) with Warner(D) and dump Goode in 08!

[Patiod]

157. Feels good, doesn't it?

Elections aren't nearly as fun if you haven't worn out some shoes going door-to-door, written a check, pitched in at a phone bank, or sat all day outside the precinct!

My girl lost in a really tight race (one of the few Pennsylvania Dems who didn't ride the anti-Santorum wave into Washington) but at least I can say I did my bit, and hey -- Little Ricky is on K Street where he belongs, and not in the Senate anymore.

Thanks for putting Webb in the Senate - I cheered along with you when the news was announced!

[Synnical]

106. Crooks and Liars has it up

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/23/sen-webbs-democratic-response-to-the-sotu-the-wars-costs-to-our-nation-have-been-staggering/

[sammythecat]

108. I couldn't see or hear him,

but from what I'm reading here I'm thrilled. I hope they really get serious about the disappearing middle class. A blue collar wage earner with a non-working spouse and a couple of kids is going to be fighting poverty. It takes two blue collar jobs to provide a middle class life now. 40 years or so ago that could be done with one.

I've often wondered why a bigger stink hasn't been made of this.

Three cheers for Jim Webb. I hope he becomes a champion. We need one.

[lildreamer316]

126. It really takes more than that

for what most ppl define as middle-class (in the popular venacular). You can do it if you have cc's maxed out.
That's what is so sad...

[TexasLawyer]

123. TES-TI-FY!!!!!

Oh yeah, Mr. Webb!

[MODemocrat]

124. I love Jim Webb

He's a good speaker too, and he can kick ass and make you love it.

[diane in sf]

125. When I was watching him, I thought,

He could be president. What a wonderful speech, very straightforward and brave with a fair amount of subtle imagery and message.

[Clinton_Co_Regulator]

128. Populism 1 Centrism 0

:yourock:

[autorank]

138. Welcome to DU!!! He does rock! n/t

[Clinton_Co_Regulator]

155. Thank You autorank

:hi:

[Name removed]

156. Deleted message

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[NastyRiffraff]

134. Beautiful SOTU response

Congratulations, Virginia, on your Senator. Here in MD I was rooting for him when everyone said he had "no chance." I'm glad the Virginia voters gave him the chance!

[autorank]

139. We love him!!!!!!!! MD,what a great Democratic state!

Sorry Sarbanes is gone. The collective Senate IQ really dropped on his last day.

Go Maryland!

[TZ]

148. Its nice to see a smart Virginia politician..

for once. I think we here in MD can be very grateful to our N.Va friends for this. My brother in law (former sailor in the Navy) who lives in Manassas told me very good things about Webb long before even the primaries...

[donkeyotay]

169. He turned the SOTU into the STFU

Bush with his lies and empty promises, his 55 minute infomercial. Webb kicked down the door. I liked this part best:

"we serve and have served...because we love our country...we trusted the judgment of our national leaders. We hoped that they would be right, that they would measure with accuracy the value of our lives against the enormity of the national interest that might call upon us to go into harm's way.

We owned them our loyalty...But they owed us sound judgment, clear thinking, concern for our welfare, a guarantee that the threat to our country was equal to the price we might be called upon to pay..."

[FredStembottom]

186. Dang! Can I steal that SOTU/STFU thing?

This is now my new all-time favorite DU gem.:toast:

[donkeyotay]

187. You're welcome to it

:)

[autorank]

199. Over the top SOTU to STFU...

Glad I checked back, that's perfect!

[LeahD]

135. How refreshing that he didn't speak in total generalities, didn't

dance around the issues. Loved the style of the speech.

[autorank]

140. World class...no shrinking violet, oh so grateful to be in the Senate.

He's got a mission and he has confidence in himself.

He's a pretty decent guy as the word has it;)

[malaise]

144. Ditto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/23/sotu.webb.transcript/index.html

[LeahD]

194. I sent the transcript to friends who missed Webb, because they

couldn't bear watching the SOTU!

[malaise]

141. Hubby described his response as

a resounding 'Fugg You George'. Superb indeed.

[Raine]

143. TERRIFIC

I hope he runs for President someday he will certainly get my vote! :thumbsup:

[OhioChick]

145. Webb did a terrific job

Very powerful. :thumbsup:

[sonias]

146. Two completely different realities

And Webb's is the best and the strongest. Bushie is lucky he didn't have to debate Webb in person.
:applause:

Sonia

[Vinca]

147. Webb's speech was the one that sounded presidential. nt

[bullwinkle428]

153. Look for Stephanie Miller to add him to her "future husbands" list

this morning! :rofl:

[bullwinkle428]

154. AND THERE IT IS!!!!!!! 10 minutes into the show!!

[wryter2000]

191. Shoot

Another man I'm going to have to fight her for.

He was unbelievable.

[demnan]

160. Dig the avatar

N/T

[autorank]

181. I'm about 1/2 way there;) May I "borrow it"?

[demnan]

192. Sure

pm me

[Renew Deal]

171. He really is great.

He's exactly what a senator should be.

[Uncle Joe]

174. Excellent rebuttal from Senator Webb!

I thought the CEO to worker ratio of pay was pure gold, I wonder if the mass corporate media will report much if any on that fact, I kind of doubt it.

Thanks for the thread autorank

Kicked and recommended

[autorank]

200. Uncle Joe, finally someone who gets it; its about equity, social justice.

He's unapologetic in his advocacy. People didn't bother to get him. This is how he campaigned and
the MSM called him a conservative Southern politician: right on globalism-he says it stinks; right on civil rights-he thinks the issues is important and discusses it with grace and intelligence; right on civil liberties - openly opposed the flag burning amendment and favors a woman's right to choose; right on Iraq from the start, unlike some of his brethren.

A time to rejoice...let the word go forth from Washington, the new Virginia has arrived...

[BluePatriot]

175. Cool guy. Got my attention.

I will be keeping an eye on him.

[jsamuel]

179. He did a wonderful job last night.

100 x better than last years

[Faryn Balyncd]

182. Webb "tears up the playbook" ....Newsweek asks: "Could this help land Webb on the 2008 ticket?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3074266






Webb "tears up the playbook" ....Newsweek asks: "Could this help land Webb on the 2008 ticket?"

[El Fuego]

188. He was AWESOME! ! !

How could anyone have watched him and not thought "Why isn't HE president?"

:bounce:

[AtomicKitten]

190. Webb is a no-nonsense kind of guy

that I'm glad is on our side!

[oasis]

197. Webb to appear on CNN's Lou Dobbs tonight. nt

[northofdenali]

198. I knew he'd kick ass and take names!

:loveya: SENATOR WEBB!! :loveya: