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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:44 PM
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Waxman's Trick or Treat Letter to WH Counsel: Abramoff Scandal to Lead to More Indictments in 08?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 03:01 PM by CorpGovActivist
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Wednesday, October 31, 2007
Administration Oversight
White House Withholds Hundreds of Abramoff Documents

Chairman Waxman asks White House Counsel Fred Fielding to turn over more than 600 pages of documents relating to the activities of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff that are being withheld because they involve internal White House deliberations.

(Link to letter at): http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1583
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Was Ranking Member Tom Davis cc'ed as a courtesy to his position, or as a courtesy heads-up that his wife and he may soon need their own criminal defense lawyer?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+davis+abramoff

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+davis+devolites+contractors+donations

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2185629&mesg_id=2185629

The smart money has additional indictments against high-profile GOP leadership emerging out of the grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia in time for the general election.

- Dave
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:48 PM
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1. the amount of corruption is almost unbelievable.
But, i wouldn't put it past Herr Bush to pardon everybody in America with an "R" after their name on January 19, 2009.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:57 PM
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4. He won't need to. When he nukes Iran and starts WW III in earnest,
he will declare martial law and suspend elections. Permanently.

I'm so often right in my predictions and assessments of people, I've been accused of being psychic. And I have had a VERY VERY VERY bad feeling about Bush for a long time now.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:14 PM
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6. How Many General Staff Officers Would Resign?
If we were to launch a politically-timed attack on Iran, I wonder how many officers in the JCS would resign to signal their lack of support?

- Dave
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:20 PM
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7. He'll hang them. And then install a bunch of Brownies in their place.
I truly put nothing past the man anymore.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:55 PM
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13. this is my big fear as well. They blatantly stole 2 big elections to be on top when
resource depletion hits the fan.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:09 PM
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5. Presidential Pardons Amendment
Have you seen this?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.j.res.00048:

H.J.RES.48
Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the requirement of the approval of a two-thirds majority of the Supreme Court for any pardon or reprieve granted by the President.
Sponsor: Rep Cohen, Steve (introduced 8/3/2007) Cosponsors (2)
Latest Major Action: 9/10/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

- Dave
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:26 PM
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8. At least they're returning to their "Traditional Values."
These sex scandals are grossing everyone out.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:44 PM
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10. Sorry to Inform...
... that as more of the Abramoff scandal emerges, lobbyist-paid GOP sex (of just about every imaginable variety) is going to figure in the headlines.

Not that that is anything new: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+white+house+tour+gay+prostitutes

- Dave
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:03 PM
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14. you mean Duke Cunningham trading hookers for votes
at the Watergate isn't going away?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:11 PM
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15. Nope: Sex, Drugs, and GOP...
... is going to remain in the headlines thru '08. The War on Drugs has caught a lot of GOP lawmakers "behind enemy lines," and Abramoff is still cooperating with authorities to produce new evidence.

- Dave
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:25 AM
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22. My friend who went to law school with the chief judge on the DC Circuit says the same thing
They're old Friar's Club buddies. The Judge said over drinks a few weeks ago that he expects there will be a whole pile of cases involving Bush-Cheney officials and prominent Republicans he's going to have to fit on the court schedule.

Washington scuttlebutt.

How're you these days, Dave? Got time for another beer?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:46 AM
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26. The War on Drugs...
... could open a whole new front by raiding GOP lawmakers' offices on Capitol Hill.

Yes, I'd like that, M.

- Dave
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:54 PM
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27. We don't need no stickin' warrants. They're so pre-9/11.
Yes, call me on my cell if you still have my number. Are you still in the neighborhood?

Brewskies, brosky? :toast:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:13 AM
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23. One way to make sure there is no pardons,
wait until January 19, 2009. I think the crimes still need to be exposed during the '08 election cycle, but wait for the trials to begin after the next president has taken the oath of office.

Seems like a logical course to me, but of course there isn't anything logical about the Beltway troops.

I guess it will turn into the waiting game to see just what happens next.



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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:23 AM
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24. He could do it the Ford way, though
Pardon them for crimes they may have committed.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:48 AM
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25. D'HO.....There's always a catch somewhere.
Or a loophole big enough to fly a B-52 nuke laden aircraft through.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:51 PM
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2. Buwuaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
I realize it is petty and meanspirited of me, but I can't fucking stand Davis. I find him to be a smarmy, offensive, puffed up, asswipe and blowhard.

I'll not cry if he has his ass handed to him...really!!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:57 PM
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3. His Wife Is Just As "Charming" ...
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:51 PM
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11. One of Abramoff's Public Contributions to Davis...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:53 PM
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12. I hear you. Real justice is sweet!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:33 PM
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9. Forgot to Mention George Allen...
... remains under the microscope in the Abramoff investigation, too: http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?20020163063

A couple of high-profile VA lawmakers caught up in this - with the indictments out of a Federal Court in Virginia - could help remind Virginia voters of the GOP corruption woes, and help to make the Commonwealth competitive for the Democratic ticket in 08.

- Dave

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:13 PM
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16. Mrs. Davis' Campaign Finance Records...
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:10 PM
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17. Virginia GOP Wary of Davis' Abramoff Entanglements, Opts for Nominating Convention over Primary
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+davis+abramoff+virginia+convention+gilmore

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+davis+convention+gilmore

Here in Northern Virginia, many GOP insiders believe that Davis will be more likely to be under indictment than celebrating his re-election to the House this time next year.

Davis' deep ties to Abramoff include a senior staffer's husband, one of the first arrests in the Abramoff case: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+davis+safavian+abramoff

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:39 PM
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18. Mrs. Tom Davis Exposed on YouTube
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=devolites

Especially interesting is Jeannemarie's absenteeism on a vital transportation board...

Good luck to her Democratic challenger, Chap Petersen, tomorrow: http://www.fairfaxsenator.com/

- Dave
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:55 PM
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19. McCain covered up the White House-Abramoff connections to save Bush in 2004
and he should be indicted too!

This is part of all the political corruption, including politization of the DoJ. Note the history of the DoJ Abramoff investigation.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:08 PM
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20. Text of letter
Dear Mr. Fielding:

The White House is withholding hundreds of pages of documents about the activities of
convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff on the grounds that these documents involve internal White
House deliberations. Unless the President is prepared to assert executive privilege over these
documents, they should be turned over to the Oversight Committee without further delay.

When Mr. Abramoff pleaded guilty to corruption charges in January 2006, White House
officials stated emphatically that Mr. Abramoff was a virtual stranger to the White House.
President Bush said, "I don't know him."l White House spokesman Scott McClellan asserted
that "there were only a couple of holiday receptions that he attended, then a few staff-level
meetings on top of that."" Through a spokesperson, Karl Rove, then Senior Advisor to the
President, said, "Mr. Rove remembers they had met at a political event in the 1990s. ... Since
then, he would describe him as a casual acquaintance." Ken Mehlman, the former Director of
the White House Office of Political Affairs, said: "Well, Abramoff is someone who we don't
know a lot about. ... We know what we read in the paper."

The Committee's subsequent review of thousands of documents obtained from Mr.
Abramoff's former firm, Greenberg Traurig, raised questions about these White House
statements. According to the Greenberg Traurig documents, which were summarized in a
bipartisan staff report released last year, Mr. Abramoff and his associates had hundreds of
lobbying contacts with White House officials, billed clients more than $24,000 for meals and
drinks with White House officials, and provided White House officials with high-priced tickets
to sporting and entertainment events. The documents also described a series of actions by White
House officials that benefited Mr. Abramoff and his clients, as well as requests from Mr.
Abramoff that White House officials did not act upon.

In response to the Committee's bipartisan staff report, the White House emphasized that
the report was based solely on Mr. Abramoff's own records. White House spokesman Tony
Snow told reporters that it is "very difficult within the report itself to figure out how many actual
contacts there are" and that "there's a great deal of bewilderment about what's true and what's
false." At the same time the White House promised full public accountability. Mr. Snow stated
that the White House is "going to take a serious look at" the findings of the report, telling
reporters, "we want to find out what the truth is." When asked by a reporter if he would let the
public know "the full results of that review once you have it," he stated clearly, "you will know
what the results are."

This year, the Committee has sought to conclude its investigation by requesting (1)
depositions with White House officials and former Abramoff lobbyists and (2) documents from
the White House. The investigation has encountered obstacles because four witnesses, including
individuals who worked in the White House, have raised Fifth Amendment concerns.

Despite the refusal of key witnesses to provide testimony, the Committee has learned that
some senior White House officials had regular contact with Mr. Abramoff. Former White House
political director Matt Schlapp cooperated with the Committee's investigation and provided
voluntary testimony in a deposition. Mr. Schlapp estimated that he had "monthly" contact with
Jack Abramoff on subjects that often involved official government business. He also told the
Committee that Mr. Abramoff and his associates "had many friends in the administration"; that
Mr. Abramoff was regarded as a "point of information" because of "his knowledge and his
experience and his judgment on issues surrounding politics and policy and how the town works";
and that Mr. Abramoff's lobbying team was "viewed by many as a very respected lobbying
team."

In response to the Committee's document request, the White House produced
approximately 3,700 pages of documents. These documents generally involve communications
between White House officials and Mr. Abramoff or members of his lobbying team. The White
House refused, however, to produce over 600 pages of documents relating to Mr. Abramoff
because they "contain internal deliberations among White House employees, or that otherwise
implicate Executive Branch prerogatives." The White House also made a number of redactions
in the pages produced to the Committee. Given the prior statements by White House officials, it
is surprising that there would be this volume of documents of internal deliberations involving
Mr. Abramoff.

The withholding and redacting of documents that describe internal White House
deliberations relating to Mr. Abramoff is not appropriate. As you know, the Committee takes the
position that responsive documents that are relevant to the Committee's investigation cannot be
withheld unless the President makes a valid assertion of executive privilege, No such assertion
has been made in this case. Therefore, I request that you provide these documents to the
Committee by November 6,2007.

Altenatively, in an effort to accommodate your concerns, you may make the documents
available to the Committee staff for a review to assess whether the documents are needed for the
Committee's investigation. A process like this worked well in resolving a similar dispute that
arose during the Committee's investigation into the friendly fire death of Corporal Patrick
Tillman. If you would like to pursue this alternative, the staff review should occur before the
close of business on November 6.

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the principal oversight
committee in the House of Representatives and has broad oversight jurisdiction as set forth in
House Rule X. An attachment to this letter provides additional information about how to
respond to the Committee's request.

I would appreciate your cooperation with this request. If you have any questions about
this request, please contact me or ask your staff to contact Kristin Amerling with the Committee
staff at ...

Sincerely,
Henry A. Waxman
Chairman

Enclosure
cc: Tom Davis
Ranking Minority Member
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:25 PM
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21. The Link...
... in the OP includes the footnotes that were embedded in the letter, too, FYI.

- Dave
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:52 PM
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28. Worth reviewing today-kick n/t
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