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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:28 PM Original message |
25 DEMS just voted AGAINST the NonDiscrimination Employment Act!! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Can you name a few of the louts? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I do not know, as I just saw the numbers on the screen |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Yes, here are some names... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Of course two of them are NC reps |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. Schuler is Rahm's boy |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
125. How did Rahm vote? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. he was hand picked by Rahm to run in that district in NC |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. You didn't answer the question.. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Rahm voted yes, of course. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
126. How can I vote for Shuler after this? |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. Heath Shuler is a coward. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
110. And two of them are TN reps. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. fuckin' Ellsworth is getting a call from me tomorrow!!! nt |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
90. No, DON'T CALL him! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #90 |
121. Ok, got it..nt |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
93. Get rid of the (I think) by Lincoln Davis' name. He is from TN, |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
101. Damn it to hell |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. I know! What the heck is going on with him? |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Sympathies on your rep |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. it just passed in the House but Bush says he will veto it!! (not veto-proof) |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Was this the act to protect gays, lesbians, and transgendered individuals from discrimination? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. yes but trans gendered NOT included (Tammy Baldwin WI amendent for this got voted down) |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. No she withdrew it - her amendment was never voted on N/T |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. yes, I think it was a Get attention move?? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. just gays and lesbians |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's unacceptable |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. transgendered were removed before it got voted on |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. It was 13, |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No... |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The House |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. so--seems it was a protest vote on the part of these dems.ummmm.. |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Interestingly enough |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. yeah, though that number would go down considerably... |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
118. Thank you |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. Just because they call themselves Dems doesn't mean that they are. Just read MadFloridian's |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Do you have a link to that thread? Thanks. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I was watching cspan1 But check Roll Call soon also |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Here is the link |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. He's written a great deal about it. I don't have the time now but you can easily do a search. |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. I would be cautious.... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. 18 Dems voted against ENDA for a bad reason... 7 for a GOOD one! |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Thanks. Question for you... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:21 PM Original message |
Because I have been following them for some time... |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gotcha |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Thanks... I'm not exactly new... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. You did fine |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
96. I appreciate the reassurance and the welcome (back)... |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
115. I just returned after not posting for a few months too |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. Thanks so much! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. 25 Dems voting 'Nay" ... (35 Republicans voted 'Yea') |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Gerlach seems more liberal than Shuler half the time |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Nadler is the one I'm most disappointed in. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I don't understand that vote at all |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Purportedly because it didn't include transgendered folks ... but that's specious, imho. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Agreed |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Transgender is *not* a choice |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I don't know about that |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Funny... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. But a man wasn't born as a woman |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. You really just don't get it... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I believe I do |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Aye caramba |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. No, he's seen links... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Probably by RRRW nutjobs |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Are you kidding? |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
111. I agree |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. What are you talking about? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The whole decision to have a sex change seems different.. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. While there may be a 'choice' involved in getting the surgery, which |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. What on earth would inspire someone to have surgery, hormones, counseling... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I still think it is a choice in some cases |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So you may grow in your understanding of gender dysmorphia: |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I saw links to the contrary |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Where did you "see those links"? I can only imagine |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I ignored all the conservative sites |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. So what links did you see? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. I saw stories, but I will revise my stance |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
109. OK, here's a link |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I'm grateful that you are not a legislator. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Or a Mod anymore... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Mods have all kinds of positions, just like other DUers |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:24 PM Original message |
To many transgender people it is |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
82. They just do it "for attention" |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. For the attention? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. "Attention": Hundreds mourn death of transgendered youth |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. 224 transgendered murdered as of '01.... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Indeed they did |
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ChrisCat (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
131. You've got it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. You can think it is a choice. But the facts outrank your opinion. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. In rare cases it is |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. "I'm just trying to have a balanced opinion on the matter." Uh, why? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. You don't have a balanced opinion. You have an uninformed opinion. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. You have provided nothing to back up your wrong assertion. |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Maybe you will choose to listen then... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
108. In a way it's a choice. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. XOXOX |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Love to you, maddiejoan |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:18 AM Response to Reply #108 |
122. A rational voice |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #108 |
133. I'm glad you chose the former. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. I'm not inclined to think that there's much of a 'choice' in that, personally. |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
75. Holy Cow... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
77. Incorrect. Gender dysphoria is a medical diagnosis. It's not a CHOICE. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
98. Bullshit it is. |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
114. So what? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
123. As someone who has treated more than one of these tortured souls, let me assure |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. But those times... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
60. Nadler has impeccable credentials as a progressive |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. Yeah, exactly why I disagree with TahitiNut... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. It's a hard call |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
130. My "point of view"... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
107. I'm proud of Nadler. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
31. Question |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. NO... only 7 did it for that reason... another 18 did *NOT* |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Tough |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Wrong assumption |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Hm. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Actually, no... |
WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What are Pera's chances? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Better... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
76. GA, AR, AL, TN, TX,NC, LA, WV, NC, MO, MS....sigh. |
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Sonicmedusa (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. That says it all, doesn't it? |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. If I were in their shoes I think... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. This is *EXACTLY* why all 25 voted against it... |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Terrific post. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
74. I am uninformed re this bill. I will take you at your word and not hold it against them. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
97. Against 7 of them, anyway... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Yes. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
89. the fear is that if the T wasn't included in this one, there's no way it will be |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Considering that a hate crimes bill including the transgendered passed a few months back... |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. if they only needed 10 more votes, Franks was wrong to pull it from his ENDA bill |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. Big Fat Dino |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
104. On CSPAN today, some idiot from "The Hill" theorized that Repugs would vote against ENDA.... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. That was that fuckhead Christian Bourges... |
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119. Another reason why we need a Democrat in the White House |
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124. With a deep sigh ... |
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