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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:37 PM
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NYT: Abdicate and Capitulate (Schumer's "cozy rationalization" used to back down on Mukasey)
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 11:03 PM by ProSense
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Abdicate and Capitulate

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On Thursday, the Senate voted by 53 to 40 to confirm Mr. Mukasey even though he would not answer a simple question: does he think waterboarding, a form of simulated drowning used to extract information from a prisoner, is torture and therefore illegal?

Democrats offer excuses for their sorry record, starting with their razor-thin majority. But it is often said that any vote in the Senate requires more than 60 votes — enough to overcome a filibuster. So why did Mr. Mukasey get by with only 53 votes? Given the success the Republicans have had in blocking action when the Democrats cannot muster 60 votes, the main culprit appears to be the Democratic leadership, which seems uninterested in or incapable of standing up to Mr. Bush.

Senator Charles Schumer, the New York Democrat who turned the tide for this nomination, said that if the Senate did not approve Mr. Mukasey, the president would get by with an interim appointment who would be under the sway of “the extreme ideology of Vice President Dick Cheney.” He argued that Mr. Mukasey could be counted on to reverse the politicization of the Justice Department that occurred under Alberto Gonzales, and that Mr. Mukasey’s reticence about calling waterboarding illegal might well become moot, because the Senate was considering a law making clear that it is illegal.

That is precisely the sort of cozy rationalization that Mr. Schumer and his colleagues have used so many times to back down from a confrontation with Mr. Bush. The truth is, Mr. Mukasey is already in the grip of that “extreme ideology.” If he were not, he could have answered the question about waterboarding.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:03 PM
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1. yes they have
"Abdicate and Capitulate", this is why the president,vice president ,and anyone involved will never face impeachment and trial.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:31 AM
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2. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:12 AM
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3. Oh, please give me more excuses to "stay the course," ask no questions. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:00 AM
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4. The Coup at Home

The Coup at Home

By FRANK RICH
Published: November 11, 2007

AS Gen. Pervez Musharraf arrested judges, lawyers and human-rights activists in Pakistan last week, our Senate was busy demonstrating its own civic mettle. Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, liberal Democrats from America’s two most highly populated blue states, gave the thumbs up to Michael B. Mukasey, ensuring his confirmation as attorney general.

So what if America’s chief law enforcement official won’t say that waterboarding is illegal? A state of emergency is a state of emergency. You’re either willing to sacrifice principles to head off the next ticking bomb, or you’re with the terrorists. Constitutional corners were cut in Washington in impressive synchronicity with General Musharraf’s crackdown in Islamabad.

In the days since, the coup in Pakistan has been almost universally condemned as the climactic death knell for Bush foreign policy, the epitome of White House hypocrisy and incompetence. But that’s not exactly news. It’s been apparent for years that America was suicidal to go to war in Iraq, a country with no tie to 9/11 and no weapons of mass destruction, while showering billions of dollars on Pakistan, where terrorists and nuclear weapons proliferate under the protection of a con man who serves as a host to Osama bin Laden.

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Take the Musharraf assault on human-rights lawyers. Our president would not be so unsubtle as to jail them en masse. But earlier this year a senior Pentagon official, since departed, threatened America’s major white-shoe law firms by implying that corporate clients should fire any firm whose partners volunteer to defend detainees in Guantánamo and elsewhere. For its part, Alberto Gonzales’s Justice Department did not round up independent-minded United States attorneys and toss them in prison. It merely purged them without cause to serve Karl Rove’s political agenda.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:35 AM
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5. Excellent, excellent editorial!
It covers all the key points regarding Mukasey and the duty of Congress to ADVISE and not to just CONSENT. This point is very key as well, imo:

"The promise of a law banning waterboarding is no comfort. It is unnecessary, and even if it passes, Mr. Bush seems certain to veto it. In fact, it would play into the administration’s hands by allowing it to argue that torture is not currently illegal."

That is exactly what I believe will happen, if the repubs don't filibuster the bill on this, and that's at the very least a 50/50 chance, bush will veto it and the fact that waterboarding IS torture will be further clouded by more talking points. Very dangerous, imo.

Thanks for posting this, a MUST READ, imo.

Recommended.
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