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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:54 PM Original message |
King Juan Carlos of Spain is the greatest champion of democracy in the past 50 years |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Likewise ...... |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. You'd better don your asbestos suit |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Post-Franco, Juan Carlos was PERSONALLY instrumental in quashing a coup attempt. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Democracy?! He's a KING for cryin' out loud! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. You're not aware of his role in the government of Spain, I see. At ALL. Apparently. NT |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Apparently not. Thanks for the education. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. As Franco's successor & heir to throne he gave up power in favor of a democratically elected gov't. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. He gave up his powers |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Indeed. And that makes it all the greater. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Venezuela may or may follow that rule. |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. I'd be careful of putting the word "every" in bold font |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Do you know |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks for the education. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree, and I lived under Franco, so I can appreciate the difference! |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. you sound like quite the expert. guess you 'missed' this |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Of COURSE they have. I mean, really. Hugo has money, Castro doesn't. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. so what? why would venezuela want to 'snatch' up the concessions? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Because Chavez is a meglomaniac who sees himself as a Messiah. That's why. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Again, I have to ask for evidence. What evidence is there that Chavez is a |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. His behavior. His profound rudeness, when, as a leader on the world stage, he should know better. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Thanks for the news of the benevolence of the Shah of Iran in his early days. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Well, the fact that Kermit Roosevelt turned up with fistfuls of dollars |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I just caught up your post, MADem (had to go to work). It's "not germane" that the CIA |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 03:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Of course it is germane to world history, but NOT in the context of this discussion |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. One man is not a "democratic revolution" and I'd have hoped this would be clear to us. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. thank you. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Careful, Cali. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. So, the DUer who wanted Mukasey confirmed as Attorney General "thinks well" of King Juan Carlos. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Do you always base your opinions on what other people think? n/t |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. if Chavez had sat quiet, we hear nothing about it... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. respec tfully, your characterization of Juan Carlos is |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Not such a bad "only claim to credit" to have dictatorial power handed to you & giving it up |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Por que no te callas ? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. "he continues to make a fool out of himself time after time." Name two. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You write a fairly good post, but personally I find your use of the phrase |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. He writes a great post! |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I was merely emphasizing the racial undertones of the political struggle in |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Booing Chavez |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. For telling Hugo to "shut up?" |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Role of a King in a democracy |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Acually, Juan Carlos was not the direct heir to throne, Franco named him his successor and heir to |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. "If he were for democracy, he'd give up the throne!" |
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mrfrapp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. No |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. The bastard that owns hiway 69 (insert own joke) that will connect mexico and canada |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. I Don't Associate Juan Carlos's Comments |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. Thank You For the Clarification |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't know/care about JC, just LUERVE that *somebody* told Hugo to STFU!!1 |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. I sometimes wonder, in 20 years, when Chavez is still clinging to power.... |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
37. Enlightenment from the Santiago Times! More detail on the meeting! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The idea of forming a new organization of Latin American countries just FOR these countries, |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. The Santiago Times article is far better than most, but still... |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. More detail from AP--for what it's worth. The plot thickens... |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The BBC account is only slightly better than AP's. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
64. Both parties in the conflict are playing it down in the press now |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. A king and democracy? |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Ever heard of the United Kingdom? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Don't forget the Commonwealth |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. K & R |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
55. Read Legacy of ashes about the history of the CIA and you may change your mind. |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
56. King? Repeat: "KING"? How does a king become a champion |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. By giving up his power to a democratically elected government. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
61. This just in. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
62. You need to understand, a certain segment of DU will defend Chavez no matter what |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. It's the hero worship mentality |
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