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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:15 AM
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Chuck Norris wants Bible classes in public schools
I did not know about Mr. Norris' campaigning for this cause.

This is an ad speaking for "The National Council for Bible Curriculum in Public Schools" by Mr. and Mrs. Norris.

He advocates history and literature classes with the Bible as the textbook and claims that the founders of the United States "never intended for the Bible to be removed from public schools."

Now, I am all for people worshiping in whatever fashion they choose. At the same time, I am also for keeping religion out of public schools.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1pnFg0Sp2Xw

(I posted this in the LBN Norris/Huckabee thread but thought more people would want to see this video.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:18 AM
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1. I missed the part where Norris was a literary historian.
:)
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:22 AM
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7. You obviously haven't seen Missing In Action III: The Beginning..
:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:38 AM
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13. Blessed are they who do reps,
for they shall possess the abs.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:54 PM
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65. Not wearing THAT outfit they won't...
:rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:05 PM
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68. C'mon now...
who doesn't forget to put on their pants every now and again?

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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:51 AM
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111. Did you know Chuck Norris eats a TotalGym every day?
I tried one once that belonged to a fundie martial arts instructor who swore by it.
To be honest, I'd rather do regular body weight exercises.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:43 PM
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112. In the old days toughy muffins like Charles used to eat nails for breakfast.
There's probably more dough in downing a TG.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:54 PM
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78. Walker, Texas Librarian.
:D

:hi:
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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM
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110. I have a theory about Chuck Norris...
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 09:44 AM by personman
Everything out of his mouth since the 70s is a result of brain damage inflicted by a Bruce Lee head-kick during the making of Way of the Dragon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE

-personman
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:18 AM
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2. Who are we to question Chuck Norris?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:43 AM
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43. Chuck Norris doesn't have a chin.
Under his beard is another fist.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:07 PM
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59. And for extra measure,
maybe he should stow another one elsewhere.

Hell, he's already got a thumb up there, why not go whole hog?
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:16 PM
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74. ROFL!!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:19 AM
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3. No wnder he is endorsing Reverend Huckabee. nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:21 AM
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4. So glad Chuck supports religious freedom
I look forward to seeing copies of the Koran, Torah, and other religious texts representative of the citizens of this country and their many beliefs, next to the Bible in schools.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:22 AM
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6. I want to see Santa Claus and Bunny Rabbit studies. Equal is equal, after all. nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:57 PM
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91. Don't forget the Wiccan Book of Shadows. And we can pick a DU
Wiccan to decide which version (of the millions) it should be.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:21 AM
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5. I'm so weary of these religious nuts who have no respect for freedom of choice. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:22 AM
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8. Did I hear someone say Chuck Norris?
Why he was part of the Showdown in Odessa. I never did hear how that turned out in court.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1331
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:32 AM
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9. Too bad we didn't have many...
public schools until the 1840's, so the Founders probably didn't think too much about this at all. If they did, they most likely assumed the Bible was omnipresent and generally accepted as a school text. But only insofar as the school used it. They were undoubtedly aware of Jewish and Unitarian schools that looked upon King James with a jaundiced eye.

Truth is, while the concept of "public education" started in the 1640's, until Mann's fighting for free public education as a birthright in the 1840's, most schools were private and/or church run.

None of which, of course, is relevant to 21st Century public education.







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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:26 AM
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23. Here's a juicy little quote of Mann's:
It seems quite insightful to the OP's topic

"Having found the present generation composed of materials almost unmalleable, I am about transferring my efforts to the next. Men are cast-iron; but children are wax. Strength expended upon the latter may be effectual, which would make no impression upon the former."

Source: http://www.sntp.net/education/school_state_3.htm
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:37 AM
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10. I made movies with gratuitous meaningless violence for decades, but now
I sell cheap-ass exercise gear made in China on late night TeeVee. If it wasn't for me, what would you have laying around for your garage sale 3 years from now?

I got all this plastic surgery so I wouldn't feel like such a creepy old man standing next to my crazy fundamentalist wife. I used to be into Zen Buddhism, till I cheated on my ex-wife, made a baby, met the Bushes and lost my mind. . . . . .
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:43 AM
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16. Welcome to DU, Chuck!
:rofl: I just loves 'yer hot legs!

How about we get together for a prayer session?

signed: long-time altar boy.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 05:26 AM
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37. best reply so far n/t
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:41 AM
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42. from Cracked.com


An illustrated, vaguely Chinese-looking Chuck Norris bursts through his own poster, seeking vengeance on all posters for what they did to his country.\



Chuck Norris is back, on his deadliest mission yet. This time he' fighting the dual evils of Science and awful movie names.



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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:37 AM
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11. Norris is from Oklahoma...and he is short! nuff said n/t heh
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:37 AM by Didereaux
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 05:48 PM
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79. Nothing wrong with short guys.
And he's not that short, anyhow.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:06 PM
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90. Polite conversation calls them "the vertically impaired".
:evilgrin:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:01 AM
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100. I don't care if he's 4 foot 9.
That bastard has a hell of a rack.

Holy Christ, check out that "Silent Rage" poster upthread.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:38 AM
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12. And what religion is the teacher? I haven't met many people with theology degrees teaching in
public schools. I'm sure there are some, but I haven't met them.

These people need to be careful what they wish for. A teacher, a person of authority over children teaching the Bible. Let's say the teacher is a Christian, he or she will have beliefs regarding Bible interpretation based on their particular faith. What happens when a devout Baptist teacher's Catholic students get in the family cars after Mass pointing out some "wrong" things? And all other combinations just within the Christian faith.

I don't raise children, but if I were going to entrust someone to teach my imaginary children the Bible, they are going to be of my faith. Want your children to receive a religious education, there are many fine religious schools in this country, shell out the money and give them the education you want them to have.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:39 AM
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14. too many boots to the head(SH-ZOOMP!)
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:48 AM by Algorem
boot to the head!yah yah!




Yi yi yai yi....

People talking in movie shows,
People smoking in bed!
People voting Republican,
Give them a boot to the head!

Boot to the Head! Yah, yah...
Boot to the Head! Yah, yah...
Boot to the Head! Yah, yah...
Boot to the Head! Yah yah yah.. yah. yah yah yah...




trash that bozo
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #14
84. Thanks for the Frantics reference
They're my heroes.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. Ed Gruberman for president. He wants to trash the bozos.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:41 AM
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15. I'll kick Chuck Norris' ass...
he ain't that tough.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:44 AM
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17. Norris sucked as an actor...
He is even worse as a political spokesperson.

Why the fuck does anybody even listen to this idiot? :mad:

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Because
sublimated, hyper-masculine homo-eroticism has a mighty, mighty pull on the right-wing.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:00 AM
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22. there should be a Walker Texas Ranger Broadway Musical
lotsa singin' , kickin', dancin' and a-prancin', white hats, womenfolk on pedestals , and tight karate pants
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. Don't forget the singing infomercial at intermission.
And a shower room scene, no pedestals in sight.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:39 PM
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83. His renaissance is actually due to being an internet joke.
Chuck vanished after Walker, Texas Ranger. Then a couple of years ago people started making the Chuck Norris jokes, and that's where his new found celebrity came from. He is only important now as a fixture of ironic humor.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:56 PM
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85. I must agree.
But his religious fervor is quite inspiring. Particularly when he's doing deep bends on late night TEEVEE.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:48 AM
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19. He's been kicked in the head a few thousand times
Just sayin'.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 05:51 PM
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80. That is what I was thinking
One of those early Bruce Lee kicks in that film in Italy must
have loosened more screws than the original diagnosis detected....
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:33 AM
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108. He really has, you know.
He competed in REAL fights for years before becoming a sad excuse for an action hero!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:53 AM
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20. I thought he was dead...
I guess I was wrong.:shrug:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:42 AM
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27. Dead, brain dead--six of one, half-dozen of the other.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:54 AM
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21. I hope bruce lee is reincarnated
so he can kick chuck norris' ass again.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:32 AM
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24. there's places for that kind of crap, Chuck
it's called CHURCH
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:33 AM
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25. I love it when divorced philanders want to teach us morals.
:eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:42 AM
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28. someone oughtta kick his ass
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:46 AM
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29. I would not care if they wanted to teach religion as a voluntary elective
but if they wanted to make it a mandatory class that would be crazy.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:49 AM
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30. Just as long as I can start teaching evolution in his Church.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:05 AM
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31. Does he also want the Koran, Hindu Scriptures, Bhudist
Teachings, Shinto etc. taught in schools?
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:04 AM
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101. do not forget the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Ramen.

The way to get this nonsense to stop is to demand equal time. I want the teachings of Buddha taught, too. And the FSM, as well. Let us not forget the Norse gods as well.

Heh, heh.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:15 AM
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32. Just great
Upon reading "He advocates history and literature classes with the Bible as the textbook and claims that the founders of the United States 'never intended for the Bible to be removed from public schools,'" my eyes rolled so far back in my head, they got stuck.

Norris - what a doofus.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:21 AM
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33. Oh. Thanks for weighing in.
Ya fuckin' martial arts rough trade, B movie meathead moron.

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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:05 AM
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50. Is it just me or does
he look like he belongs on that new tv show about cavemen?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:12 PM
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60. He's not up to the "challenges" of the script.
And he looks like he should be in "Cowboy Bear Daddies, #7."
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:57 PM
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66. ROFL!!!
Okay..not fair...I burst out laughing in the middle of the office with that one!! :rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #66
87. Be sure to share with the boss!
:D :hi:

("Office Thigh-Jinks #12")
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:29 AM
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34. That Huckabee ad he did IS funny though.
The one that says he has no chin, but a fist behind his facial hair?

He looks kinda skinny-wussy in that pic, though...
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:40 AM
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35. That'll sink Huckabee, as if he ever had a chance.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:49 AM
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36. Poor Chuck.. he's still in school? and wants to read his Bible?
Oh wait!!. he wants OTHER PEOPLE'S kids to have to read the bible in school... well, how republican of him...

I guess the Jewish kid's parents won't mind a bit..or the Islamic family..or the Catholic family..( yes Catholics do NOT slobber all over the Bible, or wear their fingers to a bloody stub, from tracing the lines of prose...)

I guess only right wing fundamentalist kids have rights these days, and everything in society MUST "bend to their ways".. :puke:

Why not just teach kids to READ, and then they can choose their own books to read ON THEIR OWN FREE TIME..
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:28 AM
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38. That would never fly here in Mass.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:31 AM
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39. I will kick his ass
How? Easy. He's gotta sleep sometime.

Julie
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:37 AM
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40. You all misunderstand!
By "bible" he means "Chuck Norris Biography", which contains how he created the universe (roundhouse kick), how he lost his virginity before his dad did, why the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris, how he counted to infinity twice, why the boogeyman checks his closet for Chuck Norris, how he does a pushup by pushing the earth down, and the details of his lawsuit with NBC over the naming one of their programs after Chuck's left and right legs (Law & Order).

The book ends by roundhouse kicking you as you read it.

This is the "bible" he wants studied in schools.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:45 AM
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44. LMAO
That's hilarious. Thank you. :rofl: Hadn't heard most of those yet.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:56 AM
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47. if this isn't a DUzy, I don't know what is
and the details of his lawsuit with NBC over the naming one of their programs after Chuck's left and right legs (Law & Order)

:rofl:
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:01 AM
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49. thanks but they're not my ideas
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:39 AM
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41. i had children in christian school. only when i get to be the one interpreting
the bible and not the fundamentalist.

i am not opposed in later school years, and elective, and all religions and non religions..... but interpretation is too susceptible to individual, careless, agenda driven people
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:47 AM
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45. I think Chuck has taken one too many kicks to the head......
:dunce:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:49 AM
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46. The public wants acting classes for Chuck Norris...
'Cause he's terrible. Just terrible.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:11 PM
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70. Many teachers wouldn't take him.
Unless of course they had an overriding taste for testosterone-flavored man-candy.

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:58 AM
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48. Don't conservatives think celebrities should just shut up?
No need to answer; we all know how famous they are for situational ethics.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:23 AM
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51. Mr. Norris needs a brain scan. nt
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:14 PM
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61. can't scan what doesn't exist n/t
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:15 AM
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106. He did get a brain scan once.
The last thing that brain scanner ever saw was his medulla oblongata doing a roundhouse kick to the viewing screen. Since then, other brain scans have refused to scan his brain on principle.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:26 AM
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52. History? No. Literature? Meh.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:28 AM
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53. A macho goon like him? A conservative? Golly...who'da thunk it n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:14 AM
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54. I'm totallt on board with this
as long as they replace the word Jesus with Chuck Norris in the Bibles used in the classes.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:25 AM
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55. Great, what are other internet memes up to lately?
Are lolcats advocating for burqas now?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:02 PM
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92. cheezburqas
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:28 AM
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56. I would ask my students to pray for Chuck Norris to STFU.
I hope someone listens to them....
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:35 AM
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57. Chuck has had too many gung fu kicks to the head. n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:37 AM
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58. He's not going to get them
Unless they are strictly part of a high school Literature Course.

You could probably do one on the Bible; it wouldn't be proselytizing just to study it as literature. It is a pretty influential work as a work of literature. You need to know a lot about it to understand Western European Literature, because of all the references (as you need to learn Greek and Roman mythology for that purpose).

As you can see, I was an English Lit major.



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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:17 PM
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62. I liked him in Code Of Silence and in some of the Walker Texas Ranger episodes
But his political views stink.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:50 PM
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63. He goes to one of the biggest churches in Dallas...
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 03:51 PM by Blue_Roses
and I heard he sits up front with his back facing the others behind him so he won't be recognized:eyes:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:52 PM
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64. Chuck Norris should be praying for a heavenly intervention about his hairpiece...
..rather than this rubbish...

Want to learn about the bible? Go to church.

Want to learn about the real world? Go to school.



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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:59 PM
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67. I'll be the devil's advocate.
Speaking as someone who is almost completely uninitiated to the Bible (some might say ignorant of the Bible), I sometimes wish I had the literary references and understood the culturals message of the Bible, just so I knew what other people were talking about.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:15 PM
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93. I can summarize the entirety of the Bible's cultural message thusly:
"Worship me and no one gets hurt"
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:49 PM
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114. I've run into that in my grad-level lit. class this semester.
Now I'm the resident Bible "expert." I'm often surprised at the obvious Biblical references that the other students don't get.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:11 PM
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69. This Is Just Wrong.
No. No Religion of any kind in Public Schools!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:12 PM
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71. Another chickenhawk action "actor".
Loser!
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:14 PM
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72. I hear that the Churches want Karate Classes!..
I guess that leaves the Karate schools to conduct real education.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:15 PM
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73. Fine as long as I can read a science book in Church and Sunday school.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:22 PM
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75. Why should anyone care what Chuck Norris thinks? This is getting to the point of absurdity!
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 04:22 PM by BrklynLiberal
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:24 PM
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76. That's what Sunday's are for.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:48 PM
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77. Just remember Bruce Lee did actually work him over.
Also what happened to Chucks' chest hair in his old movies, shaving chest does not fit the macho image.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 05:55 PM
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81. fukk chuck, who needs him?
just another hollywierdo with an agenda. the guy is a nut case, I think he believes he is as bad as his movies.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:35 PM
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82. Chuck Norris is right.
Let's teach Deism in school.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:58 PM
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86. Who the Hell Cares What Chuck Norris Wants? n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:02 PM
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89. ditto!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:55 PM
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94. Here, Chuckie you can have my bible...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:29 PM
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95. LOL, the DON KNOTTS WANNABE Speaks.....
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:35 PM
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96. The founders never intended for the bible to be removed from school? Really?
You mean founders like Thomas Jefferson who railed against Christianity, the Bible (especially with respect to mingling with public education and government) and took Thomas Paine's lead in being critical of the great monotheisms of the day? That founder?

:eyes:

The revisionism never ends.

Hey, Chuck! I still want my 6.50 back for seeing Top Dog in theatres.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:55 PM
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97. Chuck Norris can kiss my ass AND kick my ass
And that's all I'm saying about that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:59 PM
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98. I think chuck norris should
keep his Bible thumping views in his church and keep his deluded nose outta our public schools.

Mr tough guy but oh so fulla shite.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:38 AM
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99. I wish Jesus would kick Chuck Norris' ass.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:09 AM
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102. Yes, and I support geology lectures in Sunday schools
:eyes:
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:18 AM
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103. Fucking Chuck Norris.
Walker: Texas Ranger is a crime against humanity.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:28 AM
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104. I like this comment at the youtube site:
"Never trust a man with a mullet..."
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:42 AM
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105. Eh, I've taken "Bible as literature" courses before, but they were in college
Eliminating it completely is a form of censorship. Even if you're not a believer, it's still a book of stories that is open to study like any other book.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 05:21 AM
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109. Somehow, I do not think this is what Mr. Norris has in mind
Certainly comparative study of sacred texts from various religions is a good idea, though it needs to be taught later than high school.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:20 AM
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107. Establishment Clause says you FAIL
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:46 PM
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113. Heh. I'll volunteer to teach it. Heh.
I'll make sure to cover all the main parts as literature and then move on to the Q'uran, the Rig Vedas, and First Nations creation myths.

Then again, I'm not sure he would want me teaching a comparative religions class or the Bible as literature (the only kinds of classes we're allowed to have in the public schools). I'd actually teach the Two Greatest Commandments for Christians, the Seven Woes, and the Parable of the Good Samaritan.
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