Short list of nations with a national security council:

[originalpckelly]

NSCs by country

* United States National Security Council
* Israeli National Security Council
* Security Council of the Russian Federation
* National Security Council (Turkey)
* National Security Council of Pakistan
* Central Military Commission (China)
* National Security Council of the Republic of China (Taiwan)
* Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Gee I like the guests at this party, don't you?

We need to reconsider our government when it comes to this area.

How are we supposed to exercise control over a government body who's actions are not known to we the people?

I encourage you all to watch this documentary about Iran-Contra and the secret government in general:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=3166046

If you look at the decisions these people have made, nearly all of them have violated, or even destroyed, our nation's principles under the guise of saving them. A person cannot destroy something in order to save it.

Decisions made in secret with no true accountability to we the people, are decisions destined to be flawed. The decisions made by this secretive body are more reflections of the flaws in the various people comprising it, rather than the appropriate decisions for our real national security.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

1. Now I get it Kelly...

and Bill Moyers expounds further in "The Secret Government" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8536707153900925247&q=bill+moyers&hl=en

[originalpckelly]

2. I'm going to keep trying to get this across...

this NSC has way too much power. Just about every problem that this country is responsible for is a result of that bad decisions made by these people. They probably mean well, but unfortunately this small group is just not large enough to make reliable decisions.

[rockymountaindem]

3. It's only a matter of what a country calls it

Every country has a security apparatus of some kind.

[originalpckelly]

4. We didn't until 1947.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947

And we even made it through WWII without one.

[rockymountaindem]

5. Neither did most countries

What's your point?

[originalpckelly]

6. What is it that you don't understand about my post?

[rockymountaindem]

7. I don't understand why you're so alarmed about the NSC

Or why you're lumping us in with those other countries, especially big, bad Israel :sarcasm: as if having the NSC is a bad thing.

[originalpckelly]

8. Don't you even understand what I'm talking about?

[originalpckelly]

9. It's not big bad Israel...

but poor misguided Israel, which has a right-wing that makes near-fatal mistakes consistently.

[rockymountaindem]

10. Are you going actually make a statement at some point here?

I think I know what you're saying, but I'd like you to flesh it out a little bit more.