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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:44 PM Original message |
Bailing out homeowners is morally wrong... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. I thought it was just the lower income folks who took out the |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Those ARMS were taken out... |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
144. No. My freind did it and she works in real estate!! They already |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Of course, dear. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. The well-to-do should not be bailed out, nor people who have more than 1 house. nt |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I agree that no gov't funds should be offered if it wasn't a primary residence. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
232. Absolutely! Oh and by the way, were you really a former Rush fan? nt |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. It is my opinion... |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
162. It's not only those that made poor choices... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
263. That only works if you view children as an extension of their parents, without rights of their own. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. I am on the mortgage side of it... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. These people should not be bailed out, and neither should the creepy lenders. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I absolutely AGREE. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
194. You realize you sound EXACTLY like a Republican; even worse, Sean Hannity. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
200. Sorry, did YOU write any of these loans? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #200 |
224. That's just plain stupid |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #224 |
228. Monthly mortgage payments are provided when a loan is taken out. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. Monthly mortgage payments are provided when a loan is taken out. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. I don't know of any ARM that allows for a double mortgage payment in two years. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #230 |
244. There is enough blame to go around |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #244 |
255. That is simply bullshit. People have lost jobs in this economy etc. Why are we so reluctant |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #255 |
264. I disagree... I find your post disgusting in that you are willfully ignorant |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #264 |
267. I find your post willfully arrogant. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #267 |
268. It takes two to tango |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #268 |
270. "help people in need" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #270 |
273. You have just illustrated my point perfectly! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #273 |
277. Insert straw-man # 32. "No solid work history." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. You really should read your own posts |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #279 |
284. I have read both the OP and what I noted. Homeowner number 1 lost his job of 12 years, |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
256. Why were these loans approved? |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #256 |
287. Greed. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. the "wholesale destruction" |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
111. Yeah. That's what bugs me. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. This mortgage issue is a two-way street. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
145. What is moral about someone buying double the house they can |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #145 |
274. Well said |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. To hell with "our tax dollars" -- just have the companies change their |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
153. It's available |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
177. Some of these mortgages couldn't be amortized in a million years. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #177 |
233. In which case, if the house can't be saved, perhaps the best bet |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Or the reports of banks giving out $750k loans to kids making $15/hr... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. They get taxbreaks as a form of bailout we renters do not get. nt |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
152. I have zero houses - how much of a bailout do I get? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #152 |
189. You should start looking at buying a home in foreclosure... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #189 |
238. That would be sweet |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
196. *cough* bullshit *cough* |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #196 |
237. Bullshit yourself. You think the landlord springs for that? It goes into the rent. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #237 |
243. In my case, I *am* the landlord! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #243 |
251. In order to cover the expense of property tax, landlords will pass it on to... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #251 |
254. well maybe they do if they're assholes, but i can assure you in the duplex i own and live in that |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #254 |
258. Unless you lose money on the property, renters are paying all the costs of the rented property. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #254 |
265. That's not very fiscally responsible of you... eom |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. well, they're poorer than i am , what can i say... |
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scorpiogirl (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #251 |
289. Absolutely! And we renters don't get to write off the interest either! |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #196 |
288. Oh, is that why I get a property tax credit on my refund? |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. So is bailing out the lenders that extended them the credit |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. That is much worse in my opinion. I dont think unreasonable loans should have to be paid back. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Agreed. Corporations were granted "personhood" by the SCOTUS |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. If you smoked, ate burgers, got addicted |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Most People Eat at Age 0, Smoke as a Teen ... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. These people do have my empathy... |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. homeless??? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #60 |
112. They'll be driving up our rents though. |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
120. im not sure thats true |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #120 |
181. When the housing market demand dries up there often is a tightening of rental markets... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. agreed. however, working people who had already owned their own home |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The rates should be fixed |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. weell, not what's in the contract: but a reasonable rate determined by the gov't. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. Why not? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
117. because the loans seemed low a year or two or 3 ago. they are not. The interest rates |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #117 |
136. So leave the rates what they were |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #136 |
248. The point is... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #117 |
246. They were NOT hidden at all!!! Those people were given truth in lending statements! |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #73 |
156. They do have the rate they signed for...nt |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #156 |
245. For some strange reason, many people here just don't get that! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
275. They fell prey to their own greed |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. Making way too many assumptions here |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. The OP shouldn't be so quick to judge...there is always another side to it... |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I have a friend who's close to losing his home |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. My original post was not about people... |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Fair enough. I'm not looking for scapegoats, but I'd blame the media/govt, too |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
281. Massive scam, indeed... |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
286. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner by a KO in Round One is Atman! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. The bank doesn't explain that |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
93. Predatory lending |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #93 |
174. She continued to live in too much house after a divorce. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
110. I don't begrudge anyone... |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #110 |
151. Back in the old day wasn't there a set formula for how much a mortgage cost? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #151 |
158. A rough estimate would be 2-1/2 times your yearly income |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #151 |
166. That's what I don't understand... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #151 |
193. Your exactly right... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
116. "And would you really begrudge a person who can only afford $550 a month their own home?" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Put an ad in the paper |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:25 AM Response to Reply #119 |
127. "what it's like for those scraping by on a paycheck" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:39 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. I'm talking about the same people |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:05 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Just because YOUR income is such that you are surrounded by people who bought "large new homes", |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:23 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Believe what you want I guess |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
222. And what about people like the young lady I used to work with? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. that isn't "another side" to the story |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Some people just aren't as financially savvy as the rest of us. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. It's worse than that. The complexity of the loan products offered makes it hard for even some savvy |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
143. Aye, the house always wins. |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Indeed! Are there no prisons, are there no workcamps for these lowly bastards? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. do`t give them any ideas.... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. I"m not suggesting prison... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #50 |
113. This post upsets me. People are facing many crises today. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
197. I don't own a home I rent. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
160. I agree |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
227. OMG thank you for not suggesting prison!! |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. so does the expectation |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. I know a family losing their home over a bank error. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
199. There already has been accountablity for them |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #199 |
210. Regular banks, though? |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #210 |
215. They aren't going under |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. Allowing scumbag corporate mortgage lenders to act like criminals is morally wrong. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. the answer isn't to bail everyone out |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. Which came FIRST? Without scumbag criminal mortgage lenders...... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. did those |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Does that go for the people who decided to live in that |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
207. In the real world |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
146. By "acting like criminals", do you mean "breaking the law" or something else? |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. Lenders giving mortgages to people knowing full well they cannot afford it |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't have a problem with the home owner |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Remember.. This also is a bailout for the banks too |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Giving tax money to those people to pay off loans with ridiculous rates would be |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Exactly. Those lenders are resigning in "disgrace" with their six figure golden parachutes |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
118. again. remember the savings and loan "scandals"? |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
168. Sure, I think everyone realizes |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #168 |
292. "The banks won't be of any help to the consumer" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
23. Easy solution.. Re-regulation on ALL money-lending institutions |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Yep. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Hmmm.. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Hey! my mortgage is at 4.5 fixed |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Okay okay.. just for you, though |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Thanks. Smooch! eom |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Works For Me |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. If the government is, indeed bailing out lenders with tax dollars, |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. Maybe. But the predatory lenders and their backers need to be hit first. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. that is easier said than done |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. I think the requisite for a 'bail-out' |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
42. Agreed--no subsidizing greed and/or stupidity. |
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wundermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. smoke and mirrors... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Exactly, but that's not the only reason the post is misguided. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Anyone with more money than me doesn't deserve help |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Well said! |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. glad I make the same as you. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. who the hell said that? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #72 |
103. I forgot people who wear plaid |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. That could have been me. It wasn't, but it could have been. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. "try finding a job at fifty" Truer words were never spoken. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
236. Hang in there, Perragrande. |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
48. im pretty sure its not the homeowners they are worried about bailing out. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
180. Ding, Ding, Ding! we have a winner. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
53. Thanks for your assitude. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I understand your anger... |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. OK, peace. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. unfortunately shit happens |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I agree. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I should probably ease back too |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. 'nippy' times are just beginning, I think. |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
107. I'm sorry about your daughter |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
133. My son and daughter-in-law live in Concord, and they tell me that |
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scorpiogirl (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #133 |
290. I'm right down the freeway in Pleasanton. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
190. I posted my examples of people getting screwed in another post |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree. Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. Only subprime loans are affected |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
65. Well the banks have all that bail-out money from the Fed... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
69. ....that and these people prolly voted for GW. |
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silvershadow (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. I am SICK of people's attitudes on DU regrarding this. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. There are people all over the range on this, here as well as other places. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I know, I hear you |
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silvershadow (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. There are 100 empty homes in my neighborhood and another |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I guess talk to a lawyer |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. I'm Sorry for Your Misfortune |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. That'll buy a trailer where I live |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Sorry |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Who knew that 3 years ago? n/t |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Just About Anyone Who Read DU For the Past 4 Years |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. DU is always full of henny-pennys |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:39 AM Response to Reply #97 |
122. i dont get it? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:58 AM Response to Reply #122 |
130. No, nobody "knew" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. That's the point |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:34 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. They lied |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
164. rate cut didnt matter much |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. LOL. I'm tempted to buy canned food and shotguns after reading DU. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. I have a sib who had a good job, guaranteed to continue, bought a house. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. Take a look at NACA. |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. 10% 'teaser' rate? That's a gouge, not a teaser! |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. That's definitely a sub-prime loan. |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
109. :hugs: |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. I don't know what to think. I feel bad for people who are about to lose their homes |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
87. But bailing out failed S&L's is morally right! |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
123. of course it isnt right |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
91. Well bully for you for being so sensible. |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. The tone of this is nasty! |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:43 AM Response to Reply #95 |
124. i will support |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #124 |
141. Why do you assume these people all live in mansions? |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
165. if they lost their jobs, its terrible |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
98. I've had enough credit system damage, thank you. Screw moral hazard. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #98 |
150. Massive foreclosures are going to cause property values to plummet even below |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #150 |
157. "that hurts everyone" |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #157 |
161. No, it hurts all of us. Do you want your property value to plummet? |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #161 |
172. housing getting cheaper |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #161 |
175. What difference does it make to me? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #150 |
198. It hurts everyone except those of us ... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. So you enjoy seeing housing prices plummet because you don't own a home? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #201 |
209. I'd rather see them plummet than see my money going to pay for |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #209 |
223. How have you paid for someone else's home? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:40 AM Response to Reply #223 |
240. Rents will go down if housing prices fall. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #240 |
257. That's bullshit. Rents will not go down. I am a former landlord, increased |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
102. I'll turn that around. The people who took out those loans were fucking victims |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. You are so fucking right... |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:45 AM Response to Reply #102 |
125. riiiiiiiight |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #125 |
154. I pray you never get scammed |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #154 |
169. you tell me what should happen |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #169 |
191. That's not what I'm saying and you know it. |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #191 |
203. what does that mean |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. Let the shysters negotiate to a REALISTIC fixed rate and move on |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #204 |
213. people cant afford that |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #213 |
220. First of all ....... |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
106. very compassionate |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. I am sorry for your horrible situation... |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #106 |
142. Well said! |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
114. yeah! Fuck you! I got mine. Don't whine to me because you lost everything. |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:49 AM Response to Reply #114 |
126. opposite really |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. yeah! screw you! |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #138 |
171. so you oppose affordable housing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #171 |
178. the poster you are replying to forgot this... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #171 |
187. that's right |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
121. ARMS are morally wrong! |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
129. you punish the usurer not the borrower, the knowing conman not the ignorant mark... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
131. Your moral outrage is a shitty basis for an economic policy |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
139. That's why it's called "predatory lending" |
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BronxBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
140. Just what exactly is the "bailout"? |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
147. Irresponsible loans, & now the bailout, causes REAL ESTATE INFLATION, & makes housing UNAFFORDABLE.. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #147 |
155. We have a winner! /nt |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #147 |
173. There used to be TWO types of loans Conventional & VA |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #147 |
185. The government being dishonest to us about the REAL rate of inflation is a real problem! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #147 |
212. Exactly! Over speculation has been hurting renters and ... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
148. "These people" can be helped without "throwing money" at them. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
149. WSJ: MAJORITY (up to 61%) of $2.5 Trillion of inflationary Subprime loans went to CREDIT WORTHY. . |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
159. Maybe I'm missing something, but as I understand it, there's NO |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #159 |
170. Exactly. None of the proposals I've read concerns handouts to the |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
163. Bailing out SOME homebuyers is wrong.. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #163 |
176. I agree with this |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
167. Yes, our precious tax money is better spent killing people in Iraq. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
179. I don't think helping out anyone in trouble is morally wrong... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM Original message |
dupe nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
182. dupe nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
183. dupe nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
184. dupe nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
186. So bailing out the stupid is poor politics and bad for the nation? |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #186 |
214. Is bailing out Countrywide Stupid? |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. Bailing out the corps is, letting the little guy twist in the wind is bad. |
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rockybelt (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
188. Hey, twosparkles |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Excellent post!! |
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rockybelt (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #192 |
206. It is disgusting |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #206 |
218. It happens every day |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #188 |
202. Hear hear! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #188 |
226. Thumbs up on your post. Most people live one paycheck away from disaster. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #188 |
234. You can be as hostile to me as you want... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #234 |
249. There is one situation where your advice is wrong. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
195. I agree that people need to be responsible AND this goes beyond overspending |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
205. I would agree that Common Snob Syndrome should not be subsidized by working the Poors Tax dollars. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
208. They have free first time home buyer classes which I attended for my 1st home purchase. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
211. A most unfortunate, "compassionate conservative" post. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #211 |
241. You know, a lot of us did the right thing. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #241 |
276. I LOVE the way you set yourself up |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #276 |
293. Did you miss this sentence in my reply? |
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frankenforpres (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #241 |
291. common sense |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #291 |
294. Thank you. (NT) |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
217. What does it have to do with morality? (nt) |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
219. Taking advantage of someone else always has comes from |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
221. Corporations are preying on people left and right... |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
225. I got news for yous |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
231. That's just the problem, |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #231 |
235. Act like an ant, expect to get squashed like one. |
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Oerdin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
239. Dumb. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #239 |
242. They wouldn't be left homeless. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #242 |
260. Oh the horror. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
247. if bailing out homeowners is wrong, why is bailing out poor parents good? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
250. Screw them... let's get property prices back down and let's teach people |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #250 |
259. word! |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
252. My dad brought me up right. He always said if you can't afford it, |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #252 |
261. Poor advice... |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
253. On some level, I agree with you... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
262. Work hours cut, utilities and gas crippling, a few months behind on mortage, and now, foreclosure |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #262 |
280. Sorry to hear... that sucks... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #280 |
283. I'm going back to them, but I'm busy lining up my other options at the same time |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #283 |
285. Yep, they have a better chance of getting less money from you... |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #280 |
295. Yes, it is the same to some extent! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #295 |
297. Oh, brother |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
266. SINCE WHEN IS HAVING A SELFISH I GOT MINE, I AM SMARTER THAN YOU ATTITUDE |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #266 |
271. Excellent question? I presume it came after Hillary Clinton suggested a remedy? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #266 |
272. I don't understand why you are putting down the OP. People do make |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
278. I agree |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #278 |
282. So all homeowners must be like this one |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #282 |
296. How many foreclosure court files have you researched? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
298. I've stayed out of most of these discussions... but, we were foreclosed on last year |
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