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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:28 AM
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Romney ready to address Mormon religion head-on: Uhh stick a fork in him.
Big mistake Mitt.... big mistake.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney will make a much anticipated speech on his Mormon faith this week.

Romney's campaign says that the address, entitled "Faith In America," will take place Thursday, December 6 at the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library in College Station Texas at 10:30 a.m. ET.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:31 AM
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1. I think this is a mistake for Myth.
With Hucksterbee touting his
faith all Myth will do is draw
attention to his Mormonism when it
had kind of died down. Myth will
not convince the right wing Christians
that his faith will serve their faith
if he is elected.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:34 AM
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2. He's playing to the wider audience
The corporatist and authoritarian wings of the party
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:38 AM
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3. True.
I still think it will
push the religious undecided
voters away from him at the
same time he is attempting to
gain support from the corporatists
and the authoritarians.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:48 AM
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4. No way can this end positively for Mitt
More questions than answers will come up. He is opening the door, and asking for it.

He's made it off limits this far, but once he talks about it, fair game. And there is a lot of game in mormonism.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:51 AM
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5. Tell us about "the special underwear" Mitt
About Mormon Underwear

For temple-going Mormons, the garment serves much the same purpose as religious clothing throughout history—it privately sets them apart from the world and signifies a covenant between the wearer and God. There is no professional clergy in the LDS Church, so in some ways the garment serves as a symbol of the lay clergy, where both men and women share in the responsibilities and blessings of the priesthood, particularly in the temple.
If you look at a pair of garments, there is nothing physically special about them. They are made from a variety of light-weight fabrics, and most garments are white. (There are some special colored garments that can be worn by members of the armed services, but for the vast majority of Mormons, garments are always white.) The white color symbolizes purity and the length and cut of the garment helps assure modesty in dress and appearance. The garment bears several simple marks related to gospel principles of obedience, truth, and discipleship in Christ.

The meaning attached to the garment by devout Mormons transcends the fabric and design used to create the garment. It is sacred to the wearer not for what it is, but for what it represents. It reminds the wearer of the continuing need for repentance and obedience to God, the need to honor binding covenants voluntarily made in the temple, and the need to cherish and share truth and virtue in our daily living. By so doing, the garment helps the wearer to focus his or her life on Jesus Christ and to thereby lay claim on the blessings promised to those who do so.

http://www.mormon-underwear.com/mormon_underwear.html



America will love it .... tell us all Mitt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:55 AM
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7. The snake handlers will not vote for someone wearing those silly underthings
Where is the pizza guy? This could get interesting.

Don
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:54 AM
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6. Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
Please, God. Let it be Rudy!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:57 AM
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8. Mittsy and Rudy going down in flames the same week...
I'm lovin' it...:popcorn:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:03 AM
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9. Tolerant GOP--Baptist Minister can be President---No Mormons Allowef
It was the Baptists who were so anti-Catholic,.
Remember the Pope is the Anti_Christ.

And they say Religion does not matter. It depends on which
Religion.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:17 AM
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11. There were anti-Catholic tracts circulating around Iowa against
Sam Brownback before the straw-poll in August--Huckabee camp implicated. They're still anti-Catholic.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:13 AM
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10. Tell the Evangelicals about Baptism by Proxy Mitt
I'm sure they will ALL be pleased to know that no matter what they do, they will ALL be Mormon eventually.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:51 AM
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12. That will win 'em over.
All it will take to beat Mitt is ask simple questions about Mormonism. There are enough questions to take up an entire election season.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:28 AM
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32. just the thought of the records that will be available to his fellow Mormons
scares the crap out of me. But one sure way of shooting him down is to bring up the FACT of baptism by proxy. Watch the religious right break out the big guns if this gets national attention.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:54 AM
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13. This would make a GREAT YouTube debate.
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 09:55 AM by MethuenProgressive
Hoo doggy!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:56 AM
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14. I'm fine with Mitt's religion...
Our democratic candidate here in the 5th Wisconsin last time out (lost to Jim Sensenbrenner) was a Mormon and I had no problem supporting him at all.

That being said, I hope that the Christian Conservatives in the Republican Party stick to their guns and show Mitt to the door. Frankly, he's the candidate that scares me the most. I think he has a lot of potential to attract swing voters and would be the hardest Republican candidate to beat in a General Election.

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:57 AM
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15. Laura Ingraham is pimping for him this morning--this speech may make
him look more sympathetic. Whether or not it's a mistake will depend on the speech. He'd better have a good speechwriter. And the bonus: Poppy Bush is going to introduce him.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:57 AM
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16. Tell us which planet you will rule in the afterlife. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:57 AM
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17. Glovey talks about God..
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 09:57 AM by SoCalDem
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:01 AM
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18. What this does to the RRR could be veddy interesting.
I've known a lot of Mormons in my life and they are just that side of center. If Mitt takes a big dive from this, we may get a sizable voting bloc we never would have imagined getting before.

Pass the popcorn... :popcorn:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:04 AM
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19. someone needs to put the Mormon Southpark up on a wall nearby
and run it on a loop
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:37 AM
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27. Joseph Smith was called a prophet...... dum dum dum dum dum
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:06 AM
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20. It's just one mittstake after another with His Vapidness
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 10:07 AM by graywarrior
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:10 AM
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21. Willard Milton Romney
should speak less often.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:11 AM
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22. The GOP nomination is fast becoming a McCain/Huckabee race.
Giuliani is burnt toast. Romney is in the toaster, browning away.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:21 AM
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23. Nobody's toastier than McCain. New Hampshire is the only state
that likes him.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:31 AM
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25. SC will love McCain even more when Mitt and Rudy finish toasting.
Remember, McCain knows his proper place in South Carolina. He gives rich white women from Hilton Head a pass on insulting another candidate, the junior US Senator from NY .. Hillary Clinton. That played extremely well with typical GOP voters in this state. Besides, those voters now realize that they were "had" by Karl Rove's anti-McCain push-polling in 2000.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:52 AM
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31. I doubt it. The GOP base simply does not trust him.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:26 AM
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24. Could SLC have a VERY Democratic mayor without the Mormon vote? I don't think so...
The Mormons I've known (many) are hardly cultlike and just right of center.

The RRRNC treatment of Romney could break a sizable voting bloc off of the RRR base and they are very, very, very unlikely to vote for the likes of Ron Paul.

Romney may be finished after this (I think so too) but it could very well send more than a few votes our way. Mormons tend to be more aware of current events than we think (Deseret News is pretty good reporting, actually) and they are NOT hard Righties at all.

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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:50 AM
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30. Some of the strongest objections to the Stolen Election of 2000
that I read were from a devout Mormon. Well reasoned and passionate.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:34 AM
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26. He is attempting a JFK-Catholic type speech... but I doubt he will pull it off.
Mitt's failure to address it up to now has solidified his campaign's position that religion should not play any role in the selection process, yet here he is now changing direction ....

IF Mittens were to get the nomination, he will be absolutely tortured for all the 'changed positins' he has taken over his political career. The opposition files are overflowing with material to run in ads against him. The biggest problem Democrats will have is to decide which material to choose from in running the most effective ads.

Have to wait and see what he has to say about his Mormon religion --because in the end it will be the identification that the AMerican People make between him as a viable candidate and their feelings about his religion which the majority will not embrace.

Right or wrong, that is how I see it.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:37 AM
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28. At least he can claim his religion is 100% made in the USA. n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:39 AM
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29. take mormon and the ghoul out and whats left
ron paul scares the heebeegeebers out of me and I can't remember the other two's name.
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