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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:12 AM
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A Two Term President Shown Whose Boss by a Freshmen Senator who threatens to "show him the way"
Was this last line of Webb's speech a hint that Bush needs to cooperate or he'll be impeached?

"Tonight we are calling on this president to take similar action, in both areas. If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way."

My take on this is that it is a clear message to Bush: Withdraw from Iraq or face Impeachment.

If it wasn't intended to send that message, the wording would have been as such: "If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will show him the way."

There is a slight difference, but significant. The phrase 'showing him the way' implies we will direct him to leave, while the phrase 'show him the way' would have implied a lead-by-example approach.

Remember, Webb is a writer. He would be fully aware of the difference in language between these two phrases. I bet that statement has analysts heads spinning tonight...
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:15 AM
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1. I think it is purposefully ambiguous, which is great. I MUCH prefer this to:
"Impeachment is off the table" and the like.

Whether or not you intend to do it, why telegraph intentions unless it is absolutely necessary?

Why not keep all options open, let implicit threats stay implicit unless it is absolutely necessary to remove ambiguity?

I like this.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:19 AM
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2. I liked the phrasing but it seems to me
not likely about impeachment, but something along the lines of "We're the ones who are really in charge now." I thought it was great. It really highlighted the Democrats' strength and determination and pointed out Chimpy's lame-duckiness.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:21 AM
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3. As soon as he said it,
I told the TV (I spoke to the TV throughout the evening, yelling at times), "Show him THE DOOR. You mean show him the door!"

He couldn't have said it that way, though. It is too early for that.

The time may come for that. They would have to lay the groundwork first.

It was okay for me to yell at the TV. My husband excused himself. He simply cannot stand to see or hear * any more.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:40 AM
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8. Show him the door
was my first response, too!:hi:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:12 AM
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10. I also said "out the door" at our tv viewing too!
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 03:15 AM by calipendence
I think that ambiguity was intentional! And I don't think he was necessarily celebrating Peter Frampton's song either!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:23 AM
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4. I am so happy to have this person of quality on our side.
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Clinton_Co_Regulator Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:26 AM
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5. K+R
:kick:

I think you are absolutely correct.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:29 AM
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6. And Webb beat someone who was considered a shoe-in...
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 AM
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7. you're making too much of it
the way he said it has a sort of emphasis by understatement - its just a creative style

that said, i believe Jim Webb means business, and WILL be "showing him the way" and that there is NOTHING "off the table"

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:42 AM
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9. K&R #5
made it #5 so it's on the greatest thread.. I rather agree with the wording being ambiguous but threatening enough to make them nervous...



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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 07:51 AM
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11. I hadn't put my finger on it but that phrase struck a chord with me that I don't think would have
had he used "show" instead of "showing". I hadn't consciously recognized it; excellent observation.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 08:36 AM
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12. A lot like Newt talking about Clinton after his SOU address
Something about a train and if he didn't get on board he would be run over because the train was coming through..Also called Clinton irrelevent...:rofl:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 08:45 AM
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Ooops!
I think Newt might have gotten that prediction wrong! At least that's what i think! LOL! Geez, Newt got run over by Clinton & run out of town by his own party. And, he's relevant?
The Professor
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 08:45 AM
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13. Dupe
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 08:45 AM by ProfessorGAC
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