Quanell X and Black Panthers versus Joe Horn's neighbors

[aikoaiko]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5346880.html
Dec. 3, 2007, 3:58AM
Protesters square off on street where neighbor shot two burglars

HOUSTON — Protesters critical of a homeowner who fatally shot two suspected burglars were confronted by hundreds of the man's supporters during a rally on the street where the killings occurred.

Yard signs declaring support for Joe Horn, 61, lined nearby streets Sunday in the Pasadena neighborhood where Miguel Antonio DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were killed Nov. 14.

Horn's supporters parked motorcycles along the block Sunday and jeered protesters who called for Horn to be prosecuted. The supporters waved American flags and hoisted signs reading, "We love our neighbor for protecting our neighbors" and "Burglary is a risky business."

Police officers in riot gear monitored the activities, but no arrests were made.

But here's a video of the incident. Lots of noise. I think the article was a bit understated compared to the video.
eta: warning: video is 10 minutes long
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2030703163732885998&hl=en

[gatorboy]

1. The burglars weren't American?

I not sure I get the purpose of the flags.

[provis99]

2. I think the implication was that Hispanics aren't American

[aikoaiko]

4. Were the marchers Hispanic? I believe the burglars were Black.

:shrug:

[AspenRose]

6. They were black hispanics.

Hispanics can be of any race.

[aikoaiko]

7. Thank you -- of course hispanics can be of any race -- I should have worded that more carefully

;)

[AspenRose]

9. .

:hi: no worries

Though I know there's some good people there, I'm somewhat relieved I don't live in Texas anymore.

[aikoaiko]

3. I know I'll get into trouble trying to get into their minds, but....

...I think their chanting of USA was to denote that in the US, individuals are free to defend lives and property with force (under specific conditions which vary from place to place within the US).


But to be honest, I was surprised to hear the USA chant myself.

[shain from kane]

5. " homeowner " -No, he was the neighbor, who took the law into his own hands, and blew away

2 people, after telling the dispatcher that he was going to do it. If he had let the police do their job, there would be 2 people living. He thought protecting someone else's property was more important than human life. Why did he think that he was entitled to use deadly force to protect his neighbor's property?

[aikoaiko]

8. Under some conditions, Texas law allows for neighbors to use lethal force to stop a burglary

It is arguable whether or not the conditions were met in Joe Horn's situation.

[Lance_Boyle]

10. lemme correct that for ya:

"If he had let the police do their job, there would be 2 people BURGLARIZING ANOTHER HOME."

Dead burglars don't get much sympathy. It *is* a risky business.

[LanternWaste]

14. How right you are...

How right you are. I once witnessed a pregnant woman stealing a box of diapers. If I was half the American you are, I would have shot her dead... :eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

11. I saw the report on the news last night.

Word got out that Quannel X and a few protestors were going to protest in front of Horn's house. All the guns nuts headed to the protest to counter. Some of them were accusing QX of turning this into a race thing to which he is not.

[aikoaiko]

12. They (QX and friends) were clearly outnumbered, but it does seem like he is interjecting race

:shrug:

“Had this black man been on the phone the same way, he would be under the jail and not see the light of day,” said Quanell X."

From KHOU: http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou071119_jj_timberlinefollowneighborsreactportes.1c796443.html


eta: And its really a shame the crowd didn't give him a chance to speak, even if for a brief moment.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Actually, I partially believe that.

But that's not what the protest was about. It was about Horn and his actions.

[Mugu]

15. I'm sure that he would still have protested the shooter not being charged

had the burglars had been white and the shooter black. :rofl:

Regards, Mugu

[Catherine Vincent]

16. He probably wouldn't have had a chance to protest because

the shooter would have been charged.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. 117 recommendations....

"martifr wrote:
Messrs. Dejesus and Ortiz got exactly what they deserve. "quannell x" and his "activists" need to take their liberal "toleration for criminals" attitude elsewhere. Sympathy for criminals may play well in other parts of the country, but not in Texas.
12/3/2007 1:55 AM CST
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[aikoaiko]

18. where's that quote from?

[Catherine Vincent]

19. The Houston Chronicle comment section.

There's over a hundred comments. Most are pro Joe Horn and topics like these brings out the racists and gun nuts. And I will admit QX inserting himself in this doesn't help.

[aikoaiko]

20. thanks -- didn't see it.

I understand why emotions and rhetoric are heated on both sides of the issue.

[Catherine Vincent]

21. I meant to say over a thousand comments. nt