If Rudy Reimburses the $400K, Like Hugh Rodham Did...

[CorpGovActivist]

... will all be forgiven?

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Rodham">Both Clintons pressured Rodham to return the $400,000, which he promptly did."

This is just one of many areas where Senator Clinton is vulnerable in the general election. The GOP will not hesitate to pounce, and it's far from disloyal to expect that the primaries should be a scrimmage that prepares the first-string team for the big game.

- Dave

[Captain Hilts]

1. She's responsible for what her brother does? NO ONE would be elected prez by those standards. nt

[CorpGovActivist]

7. If the Currently-Secret 1998-2001 Donor Lists ...

... synch up with the former First Lady's appointments calendar, what then?

Is she responsible for meetings she may have had that led directly to donations?

- Dave

[Ravy]

21. I think we can make an exception to that rule for Jeb...

some acts are so heinous that it should disqualify close relatives permanently.

[CorpGovActivist]

26. The Rules of Kinship under the Clintons...

... dictate that spouses take precedence over siblings, and domestic partners don't count.

- Dave

[MonkeyFunk]

2. Who needs the GOP to pounce

on flimsy, slimey smears when you're willing to do their work for them?

[CorpGovActivist]

5. If Clinton Had a Real Strategist...

... these exercises would have been performed internally long ago.

- Dave

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Her team already knows

about these right-wing smears - they were trumpeted 7 years ago.

But it's nice you're doing their work for them. And by "nice" I mean "fucked up".

[CorpGovActivist]

16. Heat, Kitchen...

... meet Hillary. Hillary, meet heat, kitchen.

The primary is not meant to be a cakewalk, a coronation procession, or a game of flag football.



- Dave

[MonkeyFunk]

19. so therefore

you feel justified in throwing out every ancient, baseless right-wing attack you can find?

How nice. And again, by "nice" I mean...

[CorpGovActivist]

23. Ancient History: Voters in Iowa thru Super Duper Tuesday Have Never Registered...

... their views on this "ancient" history topic (with the exception of NY). From the perspective of http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2394318&mesg_id=2395705">the primary/caucus calendar, this is the first time they've had a chance to weigh in on this "ancient" history.

- Dave

[blm]

20. I wish the RW was upset that another IranContra and BCCI figure was pardoned

for Poppy Bush.

You do know that Marc Rich was a named figure in both operations don't you?

Gee - you would think the RW would be all over that, but they seemed to want to OBSCURE that fact by implying that Denise Rich and Bill were close and cozy when the truth was that Bill was close and cozy to.....Poppy Bush.

[CorpGovActivist]

27. The DLC and the RW Have Become Co-Dependant...

... in so many ways.

- Dave

[Marrah_G]

8. Yup.... GOP can get all their talking points right here.

It's really sad.

[CorpGovActivist]

9. As Can Thoughtful Iowa Caucus Goers (n/t)

[Ravy]

3. Are you planning on supporting Hugh Rodham for president????

I didn't know he was running, but to each his own.

[CorpGovActivist]

4. "Both Clintons" ...

... could tell right from wrong where Hugh was concerned, and grasped the appearance of a conflict of interest.

"Neither Clinton" seems willing to turn their probative powers onto the issue of the currently-secret library donor list issue.

- Dave

[Ravy]

10. So now, you are saying that Hillary is entirely above board in this...

and the fact that Hugh Rodham apparently wasn't shouldn't disqualify him from running for president.

Sorry, I don't agree with you. Hugh Rodham has shown poor judgement in not just this, but other incidents. I think that the lies Guilliani told about the mess, the apparent structure of his deal to avoid detection, and the fact that he was abusing the public trust also disqualifies him.

Good luck, though.

[CorpGovActivist]

12. No, I'm Saying That the Clintons...

... seem capable of telling right from wrong, and understanding the concept of an appearance of a conflict of interest, as evidenced by their reaction to the public revelations about Hugh's activities.

I'm questioning why they can't seem to apply a consistent, single standard when it comes to the issue of their own money matters and the appearance of a conflict. Any Yale Law 3L would have this down pat by now.

- Dave

[Ravy]

17. Maybe you should have made that point in your OP, rather

than asking if Rudy would be okay if he paid back the loans. My opinion, no, he would not be okay.

Thank you for the positive note about Hillary pressuring Hugh to do the right thing. Too many times on DU, people try to elevate their own candidates by undercutting the others.

Hillary is not my candidate, but I have plenty of positive to say about mine without scattering negatives on the other seven (eight if you count Hugh).

[CorpGovActivist]

24. That's What Clarifications...

... are for; call it human nature, but too often others neglect to probe more deeply into each others' meanings. Thank you for asking.

- Dave

[TwilightGardener]

6. According to Mike Bloomberg, it's all been reimbursed.

Doesn't change the wrongness, though.

[CorpGovActivist]

11. So Rudy - Like Hillary - Had No Direct Knowledge of the $$$ Matters...

... and Rudy - like Hillary - moved swiftly to see that it was reimbursed after it came to light.

- Dave

[TwilightGardener]

13. The focus isn't so much the money, and whether it was paid or not--

it's the sleaze-and-sex factor. And if it hurts Rudy, fair or unfair, I'm all for it.

[CorpGovActivist]

25. Love Your Sig Line Comedian...

... reads like a Mark Penn manifesto. Good radio.

- Dave

[WinkyDink]

14. When Hugh Rodham runs for President, yes. And it's a big "IF", OP, is it not?

[CorpGovActivist]

28. Hugh Rodham Reflects ...

... an instance in which the Clintons have been quick to pounce on an appearance of a conflict - even when a family member is involved - while failing to apply the same standard to their own conflicts.

- Dave

[cali]

18. you're shark jumping on this one, Dave.

And no, this won't hurt Clinton if she gets the nomination.

[CorpGovActivist]

22. Of Stonewalling, Keep Away, and Shark Jumping...

... when a campaign (regardless of the candidate) stonewalls by playing a game of keep away with data, it is not shark jumping to politely insist that the game of keep away end.

- Dave