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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:23 PM
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The Minister of Death - Mike Huckabee Scoop/Collins

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00059.htm
Tuesday, 4 December 2007, 10:47 am
Opinion: Michael Collins

Minister of Death



Wikimedia

Mike Huckabee – "Surging" Republican


By Michael Collins
"Scoop" Independent News
Washington, D.C.


Mike Huckabee is the "surging" candidate to watch in the Republican presidential primaries, at least for the moment. The former Arkansas governor is an ordained Southern Baptist minister and a believer in the "inerrancy" doctrine of Biblical scripture. Inerrancy means, quite simply, that the believer accepts every bit of the Bible as literal truth (Adam & Eve, an earth just 6,000 years old, etc.)

As governor, Huckabee was an enthusiastic death penalty supporter. He now supports World War III against Muslim "fascists" and he's taking his message of death on the road.

A panel of talking heads on Chris Matthews' "Hard Ball" conferred legitimacy on the Huckabee candidacy last week. A more professional group of journalists at the Pew Forum treated Huckabee with deference by avoiding any hard hitting questions. There was nothing about Huckabee's February declaration of World War III or his beliefs in a final judgment in our times and no mention of his tainted past in Arkansas. Only Kathy Kay of the BBC raised questions about the specter of the candidate's extreme views.

Let's see what the former Arkansas governor and minister has in store for the United States if he's selected to win the Presidency.

After becoming governor in 1997, Huckabee signed death warrants for 16 executions by lethal injection. This violates the clearly worded, but frequently forgotten commandment, "Thou shalt not kill." He must know that World War III means even more killing and death. But neither position seems to bother him. In fact, he recently used death imagery in estimating the reaction of fellow Republicans to his fund raising gains: "If I were some of these guys, I'd have to be sitting in a warm tub of water with razor blades,"

Snip

The New Dark Ages

Does Huckabee really believe this nonsense? Probably. But he also has a record of killing mentally ill people by lethal injection, working diligently to free a rapist who murdered once freed then denying involvement, and a Giuliani-likerecord of taking liberties with government funds.

Perhaps he's ripe for an "all this can be yours" deal from the same donors that propelled Bush in the 2000 primaries. He campaigns as "the values guy" who is concerned about the workingman; a "just plain Huck" trying to help.

Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00059.htm


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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:27 PM
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1. He equated the support of the death penalty with the
crucification of Christ. It think crucification is an argument against the death penalty. :dem:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:43 PM
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5. Now Hagee, one of his supporters is saying Jesus wasn't sent as the savior.

This guy is a real screw ball - little bit out of the mainstream don't you think?
http://tinyurl.com/3bxnxg
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:32 PM
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2. Tres Charmant Profile Of This Dark Horse
What is it about these times that there are so many maniacs running loose? It's almost an epidemic.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:36 PM
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3. It's an addiction to a particular chemical.
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 09:36 PM by Lint Head
TESTOSTERONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DEM:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:56 PM
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8. ...or something...
He really wants to be the messiah of perpetual war against Islam or, as he calls it, World War III.

From the article:

"One of his strongest supporters, millionaire TV preacher Rev. John Hagee, agrees with Huckabee on the urgency of fighting Islam. Hagee also offers a version of the "End Times" from the Book of Revelations, one shared by other Huckabee supporters on the religious right. These include the influential publisher of apocalyptic prophesy Strang Communications. The Strang newsletter, New Man, endorsed Huckabee saying, "When it comes to faith, he is truly one of our own.

"The key action starts when Russia invades Israel. The United States fails to defend Israel and is punished by seeing both coasts nuked. A European anti-Christ emerges and does battle with the second coming of Jesus. There's death and destruction on a global scale. All but a very few are cast into Hell. Hagee's Jesus then rules a world of true believers in an earthly paradise despite the bi-coastal U.S. nuclear holocaust."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00059.htm
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:40 AM
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31. The Apple & The Tree
“David Huckabee, a son of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, was arrested at an Arkansas airport Thursday after a federal X-ray technician detected a loaded Glock pistol in his carry-on luggage.

"I removed the bag and asked Mr. Huckabee if he knew what he had in the bag," Little Rock police officer Arthur Nugent wrote in a report after he was summoned to a security checkpoint. "He replied he did now."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/04/26/08-candidate-huckabees-_n_46957.html

“LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas — In a desperate and cynical attempt to get some attention for his utterly forgotten campaign for the GOP nomination, former Governor Mike Huckabee pulled a Jim Webb on his own son and sent young David Huckabee through airport security with a LOADED HANDGUN.

The Glock .40-caliber was “loaded with eight rounds” and concealed in David Huckabee’s briefcase, which he cunningly put through the X-Ray machine. He was immediately charged and found guilty and sentenced — shit moves fast in Arkansas, apparently — to a year in state prison! Hooray! Oh, but it was a “suspended sentence.” That’s how it is in Arkansas. Daddy even pardons the rapist”

http://wonkette.com/politics/dept'-of-gun-nuts/mike-huckabees-son-tries-to-finish-what-jim-webb-started-255690.php

“BOY SCOUTS KILL DOG!

ACTION NEEDED: DEMAND INVESTIGATION

(Miller County, Arkansas) Two boy scout counselors, 17 year old Clayton Frady and 18 year old David litickabee, the son of Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death.

Camp officials, who did not report the crime to law enforcement officials, have admitted that the act did occur and have fired the boys from their positions. However, no charges have been filed against the young men.

Arkansas State Police conducted a perfunctory investigation, but did not attempt to locate witnesses to the crime”

http://www.utopiarescue.com/oldsite/stop_animal_torture.htm.


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:44 PM
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6. "Old Huck" "in touch with the people" MSM ratifies this guy
Why? Because they don't ask him why he's so wacky. It's a fix for now. Hope the "rulers" wise up.

I believe that this guy truly believes what he says!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:39 PM
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42. Being called "Reverend" innoculates you from being called crazy!
As a preacher, Huckabee can say any damn crazy thing he wants and nobody will call him on it. Well, some of us will, but we don't count, because we're Christian haters.

--IMM
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:37 PM
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4. There was a DU poll asking who was the creepiest Puke candidate.
I'm changing my answer from Ghoulliani to Huckabeest. Blech!

Thanks for the info. I didn't think I could be less enthused with their "qualifications". I was wrong.

K & R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:52 PM
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7. Your welcome! No matte how low we think they'll go, they always surprise us.

I had no idea just how creepy he was either.

It's linked in the article, but check this out by Murray Waas on Huckabee's pardon of a 3 time rapist who went right out and murdered a woman in Missouri after Huckabee lobbied real hard for parole (he was going to commute the sentence altogether but got too much flack). Today, Huckabee denies this ever happened and blames Clinton! Total liar.

http://tinyurl.com/85a9r

What will they serve up next?

There's a battle going on thought Today we've got the obstruction of justice charge on Plame and a couple of other items, not to mention the CNN report pressing the Pentagon on intelligence flights. Damn!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:22 PM
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9. Dumond and Huckabee. Hmm.
Wonder if Dumond was a friend to Huckabee's whacko son? What was the impetus to push for this sicko's release?
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:25 PM
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10. K&R.nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:31 PM
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11. Glad to send this to the greatest page.
Huckabee has a whole lot of crazy behind the eyes.

K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:03 PM
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15. You can say that again.... to as many as you can.
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 11:03 PM by autorank
We are in some scary times. Not Huck's "end times" but the end of any toleerance for established
institutions.

Here's a paragraph from the conclusion:

"Should he be "chosen," we'll be lead to this promised land by President Huckabee who thinks that the
world was created 6,000 years ago; that Adam & Eve were the first humans on earth; that evolution is a
myth; and that we're all just biding time until our world is devastated and replaced by a paradise from
which most of us will be excluded. What more could we expect from a corporate America that gave us
Bush – Cheney and then did nothing about it."

The MSM folks jumped all over Rudy G based on the article in "Politico" on Nov. 28. But "Politico" did
the same type of survey of old "Huck" on the 23rd, more damning ($150,000 in personal gifts!). But
not a word other than propping the guy up as the "next big thing" man of the people, "Bush with brains
...

There's no reason to think it will change. The same mega bucks donors that propped Bush may
step in for this guy. We'll see. But, as for now, no more Minister of Death for me. I know what
I need to about this guy.

(Just shows you how rough Arkansas politics are!)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:33 PM
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12. Are all the GOP candidates sleazy, corrupt or nuts, or are they all sleazely, corrupt AND nuts?
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 10:34 PM by Hissyspit
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:56 PM
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14. They're GOoPy...ori GOoPhy... This one is the gem!

Imagine making a joke out of suicide, executing the mentally ill, and advocating the Iraq War as just a larger version of World War III. Don't watch the video at the link "World War III" if you want to sleep any time soon. It's chilling. He really believes all this.

So it's Mitt, Huck, and Fred...what a crew!
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:34 PM
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13. K&R. n/t
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:11 PM
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16. be afraid, very much so...
that Baptist fundamentalist lobby has lots of true believer fervency. And there's a shitload of them out there.

I suspect the Unitedstatesamerican public lacks the patience to think through to the essential corruptness of this fellow's Soul. Thanks, Autorank, for passing along Collins' stuff, all the way from New Zealand. I remember the Baptists lured a bunch of us elementary school Catholic kids. The dude had done his homework. First, a puppet show. Then a few songs. Then gives us a song and dance about how onerous the ritual of Confession is. So he asks us to stand up and declares all our sins cleansed, just like that! Wow. No personal confrontation. No guilt. No going out Saturday to kneel and do Penance. It was all too easy and none of my friends bought into the preacher's game. Of course, we all had to go to Confession that week because The Church taught us that stepping foot into that place was itself a Sin!!! May my Soul burn in Purgatory for a few millenia.

but I digress.

Let's hope we can prove Mencken wrong and folks will see the absence of morality and ethics in this most petty guy's history. The gift registry story woulda had me rolling in the aisle when I heard it on the FM radio recently, 'cept I was doing 65 on the interstate. Huk had been married X years already, but that didn't prevent him and his wife setting up a department store Bridal Register so all his cronies could buy him a shitload of stuff. Not illegal, you know, but he was leaving the public tit of the guv's crib and they needed new stuff.

btw, "Thou Shall Not Kill" doesn't mean you can't hire someone to do the killing for you.

In the beginning was the recommendation. And the recommendation was with...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:18 PM
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17. I think huck$ter huckabee is
a fa$cist A$$hole who along with all the other fa$cist bu$hite A$$holes couldn't care less about the Bible but see that as the fa$te$t way to $ucker a bunch of $ucker$.

Whadda ya think of that?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:16 AM
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21. Even worse!
I think that could be right but I think this guy can both believe all of the nonsense his right wing pals come up with and, at the same time, be in it for the bucks. He's special, deserves a bit of mana. But I'm also of the mind that you could well be right. He does like those gifts, $150,000 in personals from folks.

He's way too concerned about death and suffering, as I see it. It reminds me of a very old film called "A Face in the Crowd" - young Andy Griffith, very very dark film.

"From the outset, when he is picked up as a drunken guitar-playing tramp by a female television reporter in an Arkansas town, he progressively dominates the TV audience to which he is expandingly exposed, the advertising agency representatives and the big industrialist by whom he is employed. He even is coming close to dominating a political faction and a Presidential aspirant when the rug is suddenly pulled out from under him by his girl friend, who throws a studio switch."
http://tinyurl.com/34dzuh

When he's back stage talking about how stupid his fans are, real nasty stuff, it turns out that his mike is live and the whole world hears him. He's finished but they've got another version of him in the wings, a "real nice guy" etc.



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:30 AM
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22. Yeah, huckster is
scary all right..he doesn't have all that baggage of Mormon/Mass, sex on the city, fred/lazydumbshit..I guess there's no way the repukes would get out in the primaries and vote ron paul in?

I didn't see Face In The Crowd way then..thanks for synopsis!
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:24 PM
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18. Blocked the abortion of a mentally retarded girl, who had been raped by her stepfather
"One of his first acts as governor was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally retarded teenager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape. “The state didn’t fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor,” says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women’s Clinic. “Zero.”"

http://www.queerty.com/news/huckabees-gay-marriage-akin-to-slavery-20071121/

Lovely eh?

This guy is dangerous. And a real rightwing nut. We need to shut him down fast. He is dangerous to Dems as he "appears" to be so likeable when in fact he is just a bizarre religious idiot disguised as a politician.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:42 PM
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19. Thanks for including that. What a monster, eh?
What does it take. But he's a clone of the * crew - all about death and suffering.

He should be shut down but MSM was just gaga over him last week. They knew about his slush fund and parole action. I'll tell you one thing for sure, he will get wiped out completely in Missouri. There is a full knowledge of what this guy can do when he goes into action. The Dumond parole had a requirement that Dumond leave the state. So where did he go? Right to Missouri where he murdered that woman, after leaving Arkansas. There was a look-alike murder very close to the one he was convicted for the same night, I believe, and another where he was a suspect. So old "Huck" turns him lose (Huckabee wanted to commute the sentence originally) and the guy goes on a rampage. But the problem had been "transferred" to another venue and the governor survived...to threaten the entire world.

These establishment media types think they're cute by ignoring all of this. But they life here too. Watch how contributions materialize. That will tell the story, who gives and how much. He's not at all beyond a deal.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:59 PM
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20. Thank Yooooooooooouuuuu, Auto!
I'm doing my part to help everyone see how serious the situation is.

:)
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:14 AM
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23. Great work
I remember when Huckabee first became Gov. of Arkansas and he was awful, he started tempering his image after he and his wife ended up living in a trailer and he started losing weight. I was stunned when he decided to run for President and never believed he would gain any stride, not like he has recently. You've followed his record perfectly Autorank and I hope this article makes the rounds because he is a frightening man, but the kind of soft sell "good ole boy" that does sell in the South, guitar and all.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:15 PM
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45. Thanks for the feedback. Very helpful.
Researching him is an adventure. I had no real bias other than against his right wing politics. But it's all there. The Arkansas Times was very useful but the information is there. Didn't know about the trailer, good grief. One thing I couldn't find was why he was sympathetic to Dumond in the first place, if there was a specific connection? I was told that he's a "big picture" guy and glosses over things, which may be true. But that was a rotten deal, he was warned, and the warning was true. I'm sure that he'd never carry Missouri.

The article is getting very good exposure, front page of Buzz Flash, which is always great and a bunch of other places - OpEd and Chimp, headline, front page. Next we'll take a look at the craven corporate media, see why they missed that Politico article on old Huck five days before Rudy got it in the same web publication.

Again, thanks shifting_sands.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:20 AM
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24. Thanks for researching this. And on this general topic...
...I just finished reading this:

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

These are fanatical, entrenched people. Scary.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:22 AM
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25. Here ya go:
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 01:26 AM by Swamp Rat
:hi:



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:28 AM
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26. You are entirely too good!
And the Burger King pasty is so perfect.

:hi:

Swamp Rat is in the house!
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Jennifer C Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:45 AM
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27. K&R
Huckabee is fucking dangerous.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:33 AM
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28. Nominated.
He could pose problems in a general election, because of his ability to convince people that he is a compassionate Christian. His passion is actually hatred.

Thank you for an informative post.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:53 PM
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37. Thanks!
All we have to do is get people to look at the World War III tape form NH. Nobody wants that. The public is adamant about Iraq being over, the vast majority. This guy is a corporate media creation - "Can we sell him?" "Can we keep the war going a bit longer?" That's a real disgrace and the media has rolled over once again.

Thank God for the NIE release and those who did it. That's my religion for the day;)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:54 AM
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29. First we get Goober...now they'd have us saddled with Gomer.
Well, Gollll-eee.
Someone needs to tell the GOP to stop shopping for candidates in Mayberry; might be someone over t' Mt. Pilot who'll fit the bill..
:puke: or :rofl:, I dunno.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:07 PM
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40. Gomer was a functioning psychopath? Who knew Mayberry was so interesting? n/t
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:17 AM
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30. Thanks... good to know.
Or rather scary to know but I am glad I know it now.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:18 AM
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32. Fucking Freak!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:02 PM
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33. # 20 and you know my sentiments about Huck ...
... ;)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:09 PM
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34. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Huckabee is one scary motherfucker. He's worse than Bush.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:26 PM
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35. Huckabee sounds like he'd make a great cult leader
for those far out right wing Republicans.

I'd hate to think if he actually became the presidential nomination.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:54 PM
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38. Jim Jines meets "A Face in the Crowd" - frightening.
:hi:
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:46 PM
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36. Kick! n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:51 PM
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39. Wonderful: "If God doesn't want me to launch this nuclear missile, he will stop me"
"If God doesn't want this nuclear missile to hit it's target, he will stop it"

I could go on, but you're a smart bunch.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:06 PM
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43. That's comforting;)
I hadn't thought of that one, but ya know, there's a certain "logic" there...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:13 PM
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41. kick...
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:10 PM
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44. This is bad.
.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:16 PM
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46. Brought to you by corporate media!

They have no have no shame.
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