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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:17 AM Original message |
Why it's almost certain that either Clinton or Obama will get the nomination. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think HRC is going to fare badly in the first true test and I think that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The odds so heavily favor either Clinton or Obama |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Don't believe all of the media hype. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. what media hype? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The hype that the media says it's a done deal. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I think you are right, she will be another Howard Dean, first real vote and she's out. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Completely inaccurate comparison. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. That is delusional |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. little guys can raise some serious bank |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. even if Dennis does a Paul with a big day |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. Just a quick note--by that rationale Dean should have been our nominee in '04 |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. sadly it turns out that Dean SHOULD have been our nominee in '04...... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Again, this is a different set up |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:45 AM Original message |
We'll have to see if voters are dumb enough to still be bought. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. What I'm saying is that an upset in IA and NH can still vastly affect the race |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. Can anyone point to a time in recent memory when campaigning wasnt about money? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. no. but it wasn't about it as much. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. Unless one of them kicks a puppy at a news conference..... |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. Would You Prefer The Smoked-Filled Room? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Of course I don't want a return to smoke filled rooms |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The Best Of Options... |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. On the other hand, "smoke-filled rooms" brought us the FDRs and Trumans... |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Shitstain Bought His Nomination |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
14. the system is fucked-hrc and obama are gross sleazebags |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. well, I don't agree with you about your characterization |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. I think it is almost certain that neither of them will get the nomination |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. that's not analysis. You can't simply project how you feel |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Whats experience got to do with it? Look to Penn Ave. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
22. Maybe besides financing reform and honest debates |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
24. I disagree |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Thanks for that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Unless you take into account the radical change in the calendar |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Making the call based on resources, as you seem to be, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm actually talking about the nexus between a compressed |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Probably what we can agree on is this: |
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toadzilla (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. thank you. I think you're right. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
28. I just don't believe it.. they wouldn't hype it so damned much if they |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
29. Bill Richardson |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
36. 40% of the votes need for nomination are made by "super delegates" who aren't voted on. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
38. You're probably right |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
39. Back in 1968 when there were only about |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. It's not almost certain, there is just a lot of talk trying to sway it that way, in other words |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. I think quit of few folks realize the power and influence of our Corporate msm. The fix seems to |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. Yet another version of the 'Inevitability argument' which has been shot down before.... |
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