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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:35 PM Original message |
Think back. What was Oprah Winfrey's stand on getting into the Iraq war? Bill Moyers knows. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oprah is not responsible for reading the NIE's |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. "Oprah hate"? |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I don't hate Oprah. The fact remains..she DID push for the war in Iraq. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. One fucking interview??? |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The fact remains. Oprah Winfrey peddled the war. You can hurl all the invectives you want. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I don't like her, that's the hysterical part |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm not sure what your point is. "Obama isn't kissing the left's ass." |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
61. No he kisses insurance industry and investment banker ass instead n/t |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. She also said she voted for as many Reps as Dems |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Oprah worship? Oprah apologists? Oprah groupies? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Sorry, she's a polarizing figure. She's not as well loved as you think. |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oprah knows alot of things... try one of her other specialties. |
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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. "9 ways to heal the world by... shopping." |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Perhaps it's about buying green. Did you ever consider that? |
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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Somehow the cover pic on the magazine didn't make me think green. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. She's had lots of environmental shows. I know Al Gore has been on, and |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. she sure sounded anit-war in her introductory speech yesterday. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Day late. Dollar short. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. people change....if it's true, she's changed for the best. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. She hawks music players with celebrity musicians and blames kids for wanting to have them |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. That I agree with |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. And you think she's supporting Obama because she thinks he's |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No. I think she is stupid. She supported an insupportable war when every single one of us here |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. It's an old grudge but I still cannot forgive her her warmth for Bush in 2000 |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I heard in NPR that Bush went up 10 points after Oprahs 2000 interview |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I guess it sort of contradicts my statement below that she is not all |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. My grudge is the Gropenator's show |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. None of that matters |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's way too simplistic. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. And that is precisely my point; Americans prefer simplistic |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. I seriously doubt that a lot of suburban white |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I support Kucinich too; but we aren't average Americans |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I think we are what "used to be" Average Americans....not Lobbyists, Fundies, Entertainers or |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. In the Grocery "Check Out" tonight there were three Mags with Oprah's photo |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Well loved? Hmmm.. not as much as you think. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
20. Sounds like Oprah was |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. She also pumped up the Gropenator on her show. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I know..I fucking hated |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. She wasn;'t talking to "you".. |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. Well, she wasn't nearly as pro-war as John Edwards |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Is Oprah Winfrey anti-war now? Has she said that? Link? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yes. Oprah IS anti-war. Why are you bad-mouthing Oprah? That woman has given more of herself to the |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You assume much. I have not decided who my candidate is. This is about corporate America shoving |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Bullshit. Oprah grew up a poor girl in the South, worked her way to where she is and shares her |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. We don't know what other folks have done with their wealth...but Oprah talks about it all the time.. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Well, she is supporting a Democratic candidate who was against the war from day one. That's |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. She was Pro War. How can you defend that? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Why did she involve herself politically giving time to NeoCons and Judy MIller on her |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I don't know. You'd have to ask her. I didn't watch it. Was the Judy Miller interview |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Yes. Judith Miller and Oprah. |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
35. She gushed over Bush when he was on her show.... |
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iburl (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. She tries to do the right thing, but... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
57. and for Dr. Phil.. I will never forgive her. yuckk! n/t |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. Ok, so does ANY of that mean she is not entitled to participate in the process? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. you are right |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Wtf is right. This whole flap is just disgusting. n/t |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. She has the same rights as the rest of us. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
51. I don't like her - but she's an entertainer. She's perfectly entitled to help/endorse |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
58. Did she go out and campaign for any other prez candidate in the past??? |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. SO??? How is it germaine? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
59. There are some out there that need to be reminded to "think" about politics. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
60. anyone remember Shawn Hornbeck? . . . |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
63. Why all the Oprah hate in the last week or so around here. She has a right to support whoever she |
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coffeenap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. I have no opinion about her, however, she can and will get |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
65. all of our senators voted yes. Do you hold Oprah to a higher standard |
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