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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:14 PM Original message |
M&M Mars tortures animals to death |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. WTF! Like we need an excuse to eat chocolate! Talk about twisting science ! nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. "Cruel" strikes me as misleading. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They're testing chocolate. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. What's your point? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. So, they can test anyway they want because they are only testing |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. ? - no, it's not ok. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. So causing terror, suffering and death is OK even if there's no fucking point |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. What the hell are you talking about? That was my question to the |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. I am that poster - also the OP. I was replying to someone who was acting like this was vital testing |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Oh, ok, I was taking it from that poster that just because it was candy |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. No prob - it was kinda funny - like "who's on first" |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. LOL, I know, when I looked back, I said oh fu_ _, saw what you were |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
96. More importantly, they're testing *shitty* chocolate |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
106. Yes. Testing it for things like this |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. They're not testing the newest cardiac drug. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Scientists disagree with you. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Scientists who make their living doing tests on animals |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Mmm, yes. Scientists who know what they're talking about. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Scientists who profit from animal tests |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Oh, those high falutin' scientists... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. We're not talking about curing anything. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Yes, we are. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
182. What part of "health benefits" do you not understand? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. That is what I was wondering, n/t. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
142. How do you know? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You have evidently been misled. Yeah, some companies do their |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Are you claiming Mars doesn't have an IACUC in place? |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. If you had read my post, you would know? So are you saying that |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
72. so you are willing to believe a hate site... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. So this is philanthropy on the part of Mars? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Yes. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. This is philanthropy?! : |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Yes. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. Not to mention... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
82. this is torture. the only one not asked is the animal. those who don't |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
119. Actually, it's humane as possible. |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. sick! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. A candy company isn't doing it |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And it's not about chocolate? nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Here's how it works. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. It's an effing candy company!!! nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yeah, it is. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Oh sure. I'm desperately concerned about whether mice |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I'm desperately concerned about Alzheimers. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. In people, or in mice? nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. People. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Then, they're experimenting on the wrong species. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. No. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. No need to experiment on non-human animals. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Animal research isn't profitable at all. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. They're doing this for free? Of course not. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Really? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Gee. It's a for-profit corporation. So, I'm guessing they're making a profit. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. How? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Deleted message |
Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. LOL!! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
97. IMO I think the idea is that if they do find some health benefits from cocoa |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
163. From the Mouse Genome Sequencing Consortium |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. How the hell does injecting cocoa into an animal's veins help cure Alzheimers? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. It's a test for pharmaceutical activity of compounds within the cocoa. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
155. Good post... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I would guess no, not directly |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ooh...ooh...wait... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You're late. It's already begun. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I know but they're not all here yet. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Damn!! I gotta run some errands before the ice starts. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Gotta love wild claims with no footnotes or other backing up evidence. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Vegetarian Montessori schoolchildren can't eat tiger, silly. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
126. They can if it is in a curry and served over rice. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
137. I know! That's what's so despicable about those scientists - they don't tell the kids |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
152. Not even if it runs around a tree until it turns to butter? |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
33. just because something helps or hurts a rat doesn't necessarily translate |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Exactly. Sooner or later, any useful experiments need to be done on |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. And before they're done on humans, they need to be done on lab animals. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. WRONG, as usual. NT |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Why? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. No, they don't. Huge differences between rodents and humans. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Again, science disagrees with you. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. "Science" makes a living doing animal experiments. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. No, it doesn't. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Again, they're not curing alzheimer's in mice. nt |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
132. Those global warming scientists just say that stuff for all that grant money. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
144. You have no idea what you're talking about. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
162. Bullshit |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. I suspect that these tests are being done so that the company can continue |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
110. Mm, no, Mars is the one awarding the grant. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
143. So you want to START the testing on humans?!? |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thanks, good post.. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Agreed |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. What's that line from FULL METAL JACKET? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Indeed they did. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. That you don't seem to be using here. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. LOL |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Then by all means... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. You already called this philanthropy. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Can you show that it isn't? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Can you show that it is? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Sure. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. That, my friend, is speculation. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Which part? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Not gonna work for you, chilly. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. So you've got nothing? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Nah, just not wasting my time |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Huh. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. No, I don't. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Touche. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #85 |
146. It's already been mentioned why this may not be pure philanthropy. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
189. Well, yes. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #189 |
196. It looks like an argument about degrees of seperation. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Deleted message |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
101. Well, we could play the credentials game. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. You should stop talking while you can still salvage your credibility. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Actually, no, I was arguing that AP wasn't going to destroy physics.- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Deleted message |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Then by all means, Mike... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. 'preciate it. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
165. The whole site is shit |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. that's pretty harsh, considering there's no credible source here... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. It's a PETA site, which |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. You may be correct on that matter. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
107. "computerized models have replace the need to torture animals." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #89 |
129. However, in this particular case... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. "Cruel" is misleading, as is "tortured to death." |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. The animals are hardly being killed with kindness. All mammals can know |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. The source mentions carbon dioxide. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. They're euthanized after testing, not |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
100. Thank you. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
131. I'm with you on the gorillas... |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. Why are they using rats, I will voluteer. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. In due time. First, they've got grant money to waste! |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
58. Hell's Bells!!! When I make candy, I only need to test the temperature of the chocolate! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. So, we're supposed to believe "marscandykills"? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Reuters story link inside |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Not by a long shot... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Hi, there. Didya read it? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. UCSF, eh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Deleted message |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Adios, Mike. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
128. How dare they make those rats live in the lap of luxury... |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #128 |
147. Isn't this a little dubious? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #147 |
167. You have no idea what you are talking about... |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #167 |
181. John Stossel, is that you? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. Your insults don't give credence to your lack of knowledge |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Admittedly an aside, but what do your digits have to do with this? n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #188 |
194. It's a test to see if you have a clue on how to think outside the box... |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #194 |
199. Thanks for the reply. n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
127. That doesn't mean they are being cruel to the animals |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #127 |
150. My god that's naive. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #150 |
166. You are the naive one... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. Wow, thanks for not getting my point. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #172 |
180. Have you a clue on logic? |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. Someone who is arguing that an animal's natural environment |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Actually... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #186 |
190. I guess it's an aversion to all-caps types of speech. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #190 |
193. Well, sometimes people have to shout. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #190 |
207. You could have saved yourself the all-caps... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #186 |
192. Knee jerk functionality is at the center of this thread... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. Indeed, it's good propaganda. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #183 |
187. Right... stick to someone who understands your flavor of pretzel logic |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #150 |
170. I think she's being a bit sarcastic. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. When their supreme health is the desired outcome... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. I would hope so. Because for someone to seriously suggest |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Indeed. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. But you do realize that your opinion on the quality of life is subjective |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. No, and it's not really an opinion. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Sorry, I misinterpreted. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #176 |
203. Oh bull... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. It must be so easy for you |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. No, I'm sticking to the subject and OP at hand |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:00 PM Original message |
And the lack of stress is critical to the health of all animals |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
81. Kick and Rec by the way. NT |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
99. thanks for posting n/t |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
104. Chocolate is MURDER! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #104 |
130. Breathing is suicide in many US cities... |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #104 |
145. The thread is a bunch of woo-woo anti-science crap. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #145 |
156. Yup...nt |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #104 |
148. Why do you hate grass? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
114. This reads like another PETA fantasy. |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
133. Turns my stomach... |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
134. good website for alternatives to animal testing |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
135. I have to say, I agree with hooligan.... |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. He's one of the best at mental Jujitsu... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. How specifically, and be precise here, |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. well, my though is, |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #138 |
168. That's true. They're not working on cancer. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #135 |
149. Not exactly the best agrument. |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #149 |
157. no, not the "best" argument |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #149 |
174. Mmm, not really. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #174 |
184. Is there a viable alternative for most people to avoid burning gas today? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #184 |
191. Walking, bicycle, horse-riding. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #191 |
197. Notice I said 'viable alternative' and 'most' people. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Certainly not in the near future. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #198 |
202. There's also little alternative to fossil fuels in the near future. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
139. Oh give me a fucking break. They're rats and mice! |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. LOL. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #139 |
151. You must not know of rats as pets. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #139 |
160. Thank You... |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
153. The greatest irony of this thread is that Mars sucks! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
154. iS THERE ACTUAL DOCUMENTED PROOF TO THESE CLAIMS |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Those tests have absofuckinglootely NOTHING to do with the safety of chocolate. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. You didn't answer my question, and I don't give a rat's ass about rats |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
159. Thanks for posting... |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #159 |
179. A general dislike of lies and propaganda? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
164. So is this true or did you just an e-mail chain letter? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Half truth. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #169 |
200. And this, in a nutshell, is why PETA is so well-liked. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
201. *snicker* |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #201 |
204. / |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
208. Bump |
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hannahdn (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
209. This animal testing is wrong |
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