When did you start hating Oprah?

[taterguy]

For me it was when she claimed that Arbor Road was the prettiest street in Winston-Salem.

That decision showed her true colors.

[Perry Logan]

1. Talk about dealbreakers.

[Squatch]

2. I think for me it was when she started raping the horses and riding off on the women

of maaaaany small villages.

[taterguy]

3. It's a little early for that mental image

But that's just my opinion and I could be wrong

[MonkeyFunk]

4. The day I was in the audience

and she yelled "You get a car! And YOU get a car! And YOU get a car! Everybody gets a car! Except Monkeyfunk." :cry:

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Quit Whining!

You knew she hated you personally when you went to the show. You got exactly what you deserved! :evilgrin:
The Professsor

[MonkeyFunk]

39. She's got no reason to hate me...

Stedman and I ended our "thing" years ago!

[ProfessorGAC]

40. LOL!

Good one! Well, you also should have known that she holds a grudge!
The Professor

[GCP]

5. (S)Elections of 2000 and 2004 I lost all respect for her

When she didn't cover the obvious fraud and voter disenfranchisements of the poor and Africa-American voters in Florida and Ohio. It could have made history if she had tackled the problem. She sat back and started doing make-over shows and giving shit away.

[MonkeyFunk]

7. Ya know...

I can see resenting the NYT, the Washington Post, the LA Times, 60 Minutes, 20/20, etc. etc.

It wasn't Oprah's job to do that. She's not an investigative reporter. She's a daytime talk-show host.

I find it very odd that people slam Oprah for not doing the work of real reporters. She's not a reporter. She interviews celebrities and gives make-overs.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. For me it was when Oprah incrementally started getting too big for her britches.

She started out as a local Chicago talk show. Her main competitor was Phil Donahue, also out of Chicago and he was nationally syndicated. She caught up, went national herself. She got a larger audience, and Donahue couldn't compete against Oprah. That could have been enough.

But I began to see Oprah testing herself as an influence on the America culture rather than a mere entertainer or even a moderator. When she made an offhand comment about not ever eating another hamburger during a show that informed her audience about salmonella in ground beef, there was a strong backlash against her by the beef industry (understandably). I found Oprah to be both enthused by proof of her influence and terrified of losing that influence; she wanted it both ways, to have a free pass as she became a cultural icon to many.

The jumping the shark moment was giving away all those cars which seemed patronizing and showboating to me. And she left the responsibility of paying the sales tax to the recipients. Part of me wondered if the "gifts" were a business expense for the show. The debacle with the South African girls school was icing on the cake for me by the time it was revealed that Oprah subsidized its creation but did not monitor its progress, or lack thereof.

I don't hate Oprah. I feel that she has overreached for what her show was originally designed to do: entertain and inform.

[MonkeyFunk]

8. that's silly

if people couldn't pay the taxes on the car, they could sell it and pocket $21,000.

Nobody was impoverished by the car give-away.

[aquart]

37. Successful woman not modest, unassuming and invisible. Got it.

Like Hillary?

You do know that all the people in that audience were selected BECAUSE they needed cars? They weren't just chosen off the street?

Advertisers spend millions to make people notice their products. Oprah noticed that if she gave away a cupcake, cupcake sales soared. If she said she didn't eat hamburger, beef usage crashed. So one day, her people went to an auto manufacturer and saved them a fortune in advertising by directly giving some cars to some people in need of cars. AND FEATURING IT ON THE AIR. Win-win.

The only problem was the taxes on the gift. Seems that the law makes it damn near impossible to give expensive gifts to poor people. Poor people can only afford to be given cheap gifts.

[0007]

54. Surely you're not serious, dude?

[Chovexani]

80. Damn uppity Negresses.

Need to know our place.

[meegbear]

9. I never thought she was all that and a bag of chips to begin with ...

so the question is moot.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. When she became a cheerleader for the Iraq War. nt

[zabet]

30. That was it for me too.

She is complicit in the
illegal war because she
gave it a platform and
helped promote it.

[H2O Man]

11. Actually, it was only

this morning, when I found out that she tortured and killed all of the immigrants forced into low-paying jobs as union-busting writers for her show. She does this daily, in a ritual that can only be explained as an anti-democratic party blood-lust. I'll bet that most house waffers don't know she dug up their ancient Indian prinesses' skulls when she longed to belong to the "Skull & Bones" death cult; she uses these for ashtrays when forcing her guests to smoke cigarettes. Few things are more insulting than a woman trying to get other women to think about politics and to vote. I pray that our nation survives this deadly threat.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Well Done!

Wonderfully understated.
The Professor

[blondeatlast]

35. Here I thought I was the only one who knew about that. For those who think it didn't happen--

when Michael Moore was on her show to debate the issue of American health care--she STOPPED the ritual killing for fear of exposure!

And that was a very good show, too, which proves that she performs evil rituals (gotta take off the tinfoil now, it reacts badly with the hair bleach).

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. You already know this, but

I adore you!:7

:thumbsup:

[jody]

12. Who is Oprah? n/t

[Angela Shelley]

13. When I joined DU

I thought that everybody loved her ... but obviously it´s not so.

[taterguy]

15. How could anyone love her after what she said about Arbor Road?

[King Coal]

43. Really. Just a picture from hell.

[taterguy]

67. It's all about the context

If you knew the story behind those remarks then you wouldn't be so glib about it

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Well, for me, it was when she killed my puppy. Can't get over that.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. Your puppy was the next Hitler

she saved the world a lot of grief.

[taterguy]

21. No wonder you didn't get a car

Midlo would never raise no Hitler

[Midlodemocrat]

50. Nice post, Oprah.

[maine_raptor]

16. It was that whole canned quail hunt thing for me.

Then she went and shot that lawyer.

[robbedvoter]

18. Bush kiss in 2000...Iraq war discussions...I don't have to vote for her, she doesn't pick for me

my candidates, my books, my TV shows or nothing. I pick my candidates by their record, not whomever endorses them - whether I like those people or not. Obama is 3rd in line for my vote (after DK, Gravel)

[MonkeyFunk]

19. a kiss on the cheek from a guest on a television show

is pretty standard. I think it's ridiculous to fault her for that - it wasn't an endorsement. It was daytime TV.

[robbedvoter]

58. It's not. The only slightly positive coverage Gore got in 2000 was after her show

She then canceled it all by repeating it with Bush - huge headlines about his numbers going up. She couldn't have been oblivious at the set up bt the MSM - of arbiter if likability from women. She played her part as per script. Had she not, she might have made an impact.

[madrchsod]

20. when she started giving fat a bad name....

[durrrty libby]

22. I don't hate her but sometimes she does more harm than good

She was a Bush cheerleader for the war. I bet she would like everyone to forget that

From a NH blog via boston .com

"As shown on PBS's Bill Moyer's Journal in the story "Buying the War," when a women in the audience questioned their information by simply stating "I don't know what to believe." Oprah cut her short by saying, "We're not trying to propagandize, we are just showing you what is." And in a curt sarcastic tone designed to ridicule the questioner for challenging the administration's view, Oparah angrily added, "You have a right to your opinion," which draw a laugh from the audience. It wasn't funny, as she was acting as an enforcer for the attitude sweeping the country that if you didn't buy into their pro-war scenario, you were anti-American and unpatriotic for doing so.

[xiamiam]

33. i believe the woman was from iraq and was trying to tell Oprah what she knew firsthand.disappointing

and eye opening exchange for me...since a few years ago i had written an email asking oprah to run for president..but when i saw that she was also bamboozled...and unwilling to hear the truth re iraq i lost respect...have never felt the same about her since...i just dont trust anyone who believed anything about this war from the beginning...im not that smart..but i knew...the line has been drawn for me..those whom i trust and those i dont...i dont trust sheep who just believe what they are told...oprah fit that description at the beginning of the war...i dont hate her..and i do think her support of obama is monumental...i will never forget the image of her belittling that woman who attempted to tell her the truth about iraq..."well you have your opinion", she said...unfortunately for oprah, it happened to be the truth...

[NavyDavy]

23. i think she does a lot of good work for poor people.....so

before you hate educate

[taterguy]

24. What good did her comment about Arbor Road do?

Educate me about that please oh wise one

[H2O Man]

25. I agree.

"Sgt. Peppers" was a better album.

[taterguy]

65. Your silence is deafening

Why are you dodging the question I posed this morning?

[ThomWV]

26. Yesterday, before then she ment nothing to me

[timtom]

27. I don't hate Oprah.

I pay her no-never-mind, but respect any self-made person (current administration notwithstanding.

I simply ignore her, much as I do other obnoxious people (too numerous to mention).

[timtom]

29. Two afterthoughts:

1) I forgot the closing paranthesis above, so here it is:

)

2) I find her physically appealing, in the same sense that I find "Miss Cleo" physically appealing.

[Bitwit1234]

28. I don't even hate bush

but Oprah draws the haters to her for some reason. She would be the lest of what I start my day with...who cares about her. She loves bush so maybe that's it. She had his, family all over her show when he was running. They blame the MSM for the run up to the war, but no one says anything about her.

[LiberalFighter]

31. I don't hate Oprah... but I consider that she doesn't have good judgement

when she included Dr Quack Phil on her show and help start his own show.

[xiamiam]

36. ditto..he is a nutjob...nt

[blondeatlast]

38. How utterly pinko--to try to educate Americans on an issue instead of entertaining them.

I started hating her but good when she had a reasoned, scream-free debate on American health carewith Michael Moore and a guest representing the inurance industry.

Godless commie pinko--next think you know, she'll express an opinion about a DEMOCRATIC presidential candidate. She will single-handedly turn this country over to Castro if she's not stopped.

Mark my words!

[roody]

41. When she had Swarzenegger on her show,

but not his opponents.

[kwassa]

42. I began to hate her for her investment in dog-fighting franchises

Michael Vick has nothing on her.

That system of covert nationwide fight rings and gambling operations.

That was just over-the-top, for me.

[Lost4words]

44. after 12/12/2000 when she said nothing!

[readmoreoften]

45. Sorry. I don't like her. Never did. She is responsible for Dr. Phil, ya know. /nt

[Yurovsky]

46. When she forced "New Coke" on us ...

and I heard she can't explain her whereabouts the evening that Lindbergh kid turned up missing...

[Imagevision]

47. Oprah's judgement is right on the mark for supporting Obama, but that doesn't take much thought...

[riverdeep]

48. IMO, she didn't go head to head in death cage match with James Frey.

She let him off easy. Unforgivable.

[KingFlorez]

51. When she tried to push me over a balcony

She came to my house one time and tried to push me over the balcony after Bush and Cheney called her on the telephone.

[electron_blue]

52. I got no problem with her.

[burythehatchet]

53. When she gave birth to Dr. Phil n/t

[Feron]

55. Ugh that's a good reason by itself.

I don't hate Oprah, but I don't like her much either. Oprah comes off as being really patronizing.

And while I'm glad she did the Michael Moore Sicko shows, alternatively she also has a show like the autism-Jenny McCarthy one in which a person is allowed to spread fallacies unchallenged.

[donsu]

56. don't hate her but hated her book choices

nt

[DeeDeeNY]

57. I didn't like her wheeling all the fat she lost onto the stage

Otherwise I don't think that much about her.

[gauguin57]

59. NY Times Magazine did a profile on her YEARS ago ... I've thought of her as a phony ever since.

She does a lot of good with her big bucks, however, and does promote reading. She just completely gets on my nerves, and comes off as phony.

[edbermac]

60. When she got noble.

In the beginning she was no different than the Jerry Springer/Sally Jesse/Jenny Jones types. But now she's 'above' all that.

[cooolandrew]

61. I love her. ((Oprah)). She is a great humanitarian.

[greendog]

62. I don't hate Oprah any more than I hate Ronald McDonald, Joe Camel, or...

...the Marlboro Man.

They're corporate cartoon characters. They were created to endear us to their product lines.

[The Straight Story]

63. When I saw the color purple

And realized it was not about Barney. So deceptive....

[Javaman]

64. When she was less like us and more like them.

:popcorn:

[OneGrassRoot]

66. Don't hate her at all. However...

at least as far as the clips MSM is showing of her speaking for/about Obama, she sounds very preachy. She is speaking in a way she doesn't speak when on her show.

Even when I've heard clips of her giving commencement speeches, I've never heard this preachy, Southern voice.

It turns me off.

[hiphopnation]

68. why do we hate her exactly?

i don't hate her at all. quite the contrary, she's an inspiration to scores of women. maybe i missed the memo

[taterguy]

78. I explained why I hate her in the OP

Hope that helps

[hiphopnation]

79. yes, but i didn't get it

perhaps you could expound

on edit: what did she say about arbor road?

[seabeyond]

69. i dont hate. i stopped watching when she had arnie on saying sexist shit and she giggled

knowing damn well her whole premise is to stand up and speak out to this shit, but cause it was a friend, she allowed it to slide. the very opposite of who and what and how she is.... was bullshit. prior, i respected.

[etherealtruth]

70. Not a fan ...

... but, sure as heck don't hate her.

[warren pease]

71. About half way through "The Color Purple" back when it was in first-run distribution. n/t

[Initech]

72. For unleashing the demon-spawn known as "Dr. Phil McGraw" on the world.

I didn't care about Oprah before that, but that one sent me over the edge. And he is on EVERY MOTHERFUCKING CHANNEL ON TELEVISION! :argh:

To paraphrase a Bill Hicks quote - "Dr. Phil is a demon set loose on the earth to lower the standards."

[taterguy]

73. Dr Phil has a show on ESPN?

I wouldn't mind seeing him attempt to "help" Randy Moss

[Initech]

77. No, but I've seen him on commercials there hawking some online dating service.

[taterguy]

82. Who would want to date Dr Phil?

Ewwwwwwwwwww

[Initech]

83. I hear that!

I'm not a girl but even I think he's a disgusting prick.

[bigwillq]

74. Don't really know

I just never liked her. I am not a big fan of talk show hosts and people's infatuation with them.
Yeah, she does some good things for charities but I think she's very self-righteous, even pompous. I can't really explain it...there's nothing I like about her, well at least her public persona.

I never met her in person so I guess I can't judge too harshly. Nothing appeals to me about her.

[Beaverhausen]

75. I don't hate Oprah

[porphyrian]

76. When I found out the air near her studio smells like chocolate.

Apparently there is some bakery or candy factory nearby.

[asdjrocky]

81. Honestly, for me?

I think it was one of her shows a long time ago,
when she had that guy on that was reliving the "rage
of his birth", or something like that.

I don't know, I guess she's always kind of bugged me.

[youthere]

84. When she stabbed me in the arm with her pencil in 4th grade...

Oh wait...That was Justin Heebler. Never mind.

[balantz]

85. I never bought into her, or any of the silly "Talk Show Hosts"

who drum up sappy shit. And when the "social issues" are "wrestled" it's all about right vs. wrong. Simplistic bullshit interspersed with commercials for the best buys on the best junk. And frankly, I've seen Oprah look down condescendingly on members of her audience more than once when they disagree with her marvelous platform. I would have preffered a simple endorsement for my taste. Nothing wrong in my book her being a very successful black woman, I just can't stand her show and opinions and commercialism.

[Raejeanowl]

86. The Day I Met Her

About 24 years ago, when she was still a minor local "star" and co-host (yes, co-host, a fact her biography glosses over) of "People Are Talking" for a local Baltimore tv station.

The short version is that she is NOT a nice, warm and cuddly lady in private. She is a run of the mill (except for determination) bi-otch.

[Akoto]

87. I don't know her well enough to hate her. n/t

[Manifestor_of_Light]

88. When she raved about Charlotte Church's singing when she was a kid.

Blech. Charlotte Church was way too nasal and should have shut up for a few years.

:puke:

[donheld]

89. Tuesday April 25, 1997 at 4:17 pm

I found out she had more money than god, she had incredible power and she was not only black, but a woman :sarcasm:

[Yukari Yakumo]

90. Never hated her, but never liked her either.

Though I suspect many would tell you, in one way or another, that she's an overrated blowhard and had held this belief for many years.