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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:42 PM Original message |
Wow. The government will be giving out $800 million so people can buy converter boxes. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Madness. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. They want everyone on digital systems... |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. THANK YOU for saying that out loud. Digital online = owned |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Really? How so? |
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vogonity (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Check out HDCP... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Ok but what you posted has nothing to do with an HDMI interface |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Look, HDMI and DRM have nothing to do with this upcomming conversation. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. How can they pull the plug? It's still broadcast over the air. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. And who controls the tuners? |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. YOU control the tuner. There is no way anybody but YOU control it. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You control the tuner, they control the content. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Right, it's no different than it is now. |
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KatyaR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It;'s VERY different than it is now. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Bingo, thanks for saying that |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. And All The Broadcast Bands Will Be *Owned* - Not Licensed - By Telcos |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No. They are selling off the VHF band to the telcos, not the UHF band where the TV channels are |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Channels 1 - 13 are VHF. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Required in 1962. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Our 1960's TV's had a separate UHF tuner... |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. That's right, the UHF tuner was where "Channel 1" would have been |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. I'm going to correct myself. Apparently they are going to sell off the part of the UHF |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Wrong. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. What's Better About This System? |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. For one thing, it allows HD broadcasts, which are far superior to the current |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Well |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Consolidation is a huge problem. So is the dilution of the available audience (consumer). |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Congrats |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. How many people actually have and use battery operated tvs? |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Turn it off! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. Haha... if you say so... |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. You control the horizontal. You control the vertical. n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. if that was the case why are they making it possible for people to receive analog? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. Don't forget - digital is not "public domain" as are the air-waves... |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Wrong. Digital is no more privaitized than it is now. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Ah huh. n/t |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Look, what don't you understand? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Ah huh. n/t |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Have a nice life where the most intelligent thing you can think of is Ah huh. n/t |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. but the turd vetoed health care for kids..TV or health care..why turd has to keep murdock in |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. ABSOLUTELY! If there are dollars for the inane spew that eminates |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Just try and buy one for $40. |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. We've already lost the airwaves... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. You don't HAVE to pay for anything |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Right, I'm not buying anything right now and no one can make be buy anything. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. You're all set. You will never need to buy anything |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Well, watch broadcast tv through an antena... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. the public airwaves are still free |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. No, they don't ... |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. Isn't that (gasp) SOCIALISM? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. Its an $800 mill subsidy to broadcasters. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Bingo. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. No, its an $800 million subsidy to consumers |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Bullshit... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #52 |
82. the claim was that it was a subsidy for broadcasters |
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cory817 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. Technically digital/analog is separate from HDTV |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
17. This is being paid for through the money collected in the auction of rights |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
20. Not HD just digital or digital to analog conversion will be required. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
26. Money For Homes |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
29. if you have cable or sat TV, you don't need the converter |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
33. Keeping the electronic opium flowing is in the government's interest. (NT) |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. That's why the converters will be essentially free. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. TV good, health care bad. nt |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
42. They want to make sure everybody is properly brainwashed. nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. They are US and I'm not going to be forced to buy an HDTV or cable TV! |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. You will not be forced to buy HD or cable. However... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's OUR airwaves and it's our frigging $$! - The Gov. is OURS too... US! |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. HDTV does NOT equal Digital TV |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Wrong...the converters are so that regular TV's can get digital signals. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Uh, that's what I said ... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. LMAO! ~ Sorry!! (laughing at myself) |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. You WILL get a free converter before the 2008 elections. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. I won't bother. If it's coming to that, then I'll just use my TV for |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. We're thinking of doing the same thing. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #60 |
81. Essentially, that's about all we do now. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 02:45 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Hey, I hear you. I used to animate for Disney and I can't stand watching |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. Don't do it y'all! |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. anything to keep them watching the propaganda |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
72. Does TV fall under necessity? |
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gatts (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. From an economic conservativism viewpoint |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Which begs the question. Why should we sell it off? |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I would go with healthcare. But it is an apple/oranges argument. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I'm going with healthcare, too. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
80. Receiving digital TV signals with a converter box does not mean you will be watching HDTV |
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