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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:39 AM Original message |
Computers have same carbon footprint as average SUV? |
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laruemtt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. show me the science. n/t |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I've seen the numbers - this is a bad way to say it but the underling truth is ... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. A large portion of society now uses laptops |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. worse actually as desposal sucks and manufacturing uses a great deal of energy |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. So convert your house to solar and problem over? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. That does not show 1 computer is equal to 1 SUV |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Rough calculation |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. They also save energy... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. Well, if this is true, the thing is that computers can easily be switched to run on renewables |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. it's also not a one-to-one comparison... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Which is completely different than the headline. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. "can be" works both ways though... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Whoever wrote this article... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You hear that fan running in the computer? Its blowing expensive heat out the back |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Yes, idling home computers ARE a problem. Most people don't realize how much. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. It's VERY important.. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
10. I bet they did that study on a computer. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. We should live in caves and eat nuts and berries |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
14. Page 2 of white paper |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. Another Worst Case Scenario Study? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. See calcualtion in post #16 |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. So the answer is pretty much yes |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The calculation I showed was for an average mid-sized server |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. In that case, the title of the survey is, at best, misleading |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
17. What a complete load of crap !! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. So, which word of "Computer servers" did you not understand? |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No, not "computer servers". |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. "Computer Pool" |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
22. This may be true, but the difference is: |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
25. "15 miles to the gallon"? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
29. Some of it CAN be cut, but not much. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. Got my attention: this Mac runs on diesel and is already starting to burn oil. n/t |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. LMFAO.. now this is some funny shit... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. so we should go back to chopping down trees for paper??? |
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