Romney is not just a Mormon, he's a High Priest of the order of the Melchizedek Priesthood!

[grytpype]

Mitt is a Mormon High Priest, just like Huck is a Baptist preacher-man!

http://arbananarepublic.blogspot.com/2007/12/turnabout-is-fair-play-mormon-high.html

In order to demonstrate just how high up in the LDS Church Mitt Romney ranks, I will first have to explain those ranks to my readers, so please bear with me. In order to insure that I have not misrepresented these positions, I have researched , linked to, and quote from, the LDS approved and sponsored MormonWiki.

First, you must know there are two levels of priesthood. A lower priesthood called the Aaronic Priesthood may hold the ordained offices in ascending order: Deacons, Teachers, Priests, and Bishop. The "higher" priesthood is called the Melchizedek Priesthood may hold the ordained offices in ascending order: Bishop, Elder, Seventy, High Priest, Patriarch, Apostle, and President of the Church.

Where in this hierarchy of the Priesthood Organization of the Mormon Church does Mitt Romney fit? This is a question that I cannot find asked by the oh-so-thorough establishment media. As far as I can tell he held the post of "regional stake president." I have asked a Mormon friend what exactly that means. As I understand it, a Stake President must be at least at the level of High Priest of the order of the Melchizedek Priesthood, but since he is often refered to as a regional Stake President it probably means he has also been elevated to the level of Patriarch. ...

I think it's fair to ask ol' Mitt to explain the order of the Melchizedek Priesthood. Does he still have that position in the church?

[rucky]

1. Where do they get these names?

Do they roll a set of Boggle dice and see what the Oracle tells them?

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. This was all devised back in the covered wagon pioneer days

It's pretty hokey & silly from a conceptual standpoint, it's the strong sense of community that holds it together I think.

[fishwax]

11. Melchizedek is from the bible

there are a couple of references in the old testament, iirc.

[DFW]

12. You still have to be born in Poland to be able to pronounce it

[Rageneau]

15. mel-key-zeh-dick

[zabet]

19. Thank you...

I thought it was
mah-chisel-dick.
:rofl:

[Oilwellian]

26. ROFL

I'm glad I wasn't taking a sip of coffee when reading your post. :D

[Kucinich4America]

57. If you were drinking coffee, you would be going to Hell

At least according to Mitten's theology.

[Jackpine Radical]

35. Well, you know what the Mormon women say...

A hard man s good to find.

[zabet]

41. ...

:spank:
:rofl:

[Jackpine Radical]

50. Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow! (nt)

[DFW]

20. I tried it five times in a row

It takes getting used to.

I'll stick with Wesolych Swiąt i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku.
At least that I can handle, and have occasional use for!

[malaise]

30. Just what the planet needs

One more Dick!

[Guaranteed]

38. I thought it was a cheesy one, too.

Apparently I was wrong.

[Wilber_Stool]

47. Thank you. I was going to ask someone

to spell it phonetically.

[SoCalDem]

32. I thought a guy was drunk and looked into his hat

:shrug:

[Jackpine Radical]

36. Yeh. That was Joseph Smith.

He saw a lot of weird shit in his hat.

[Occulus]

49. Broadway title: "Joseph and the Amazing Magic Hat" n/t

[onethatcares]

69. when jcpennys bought eckerd drugs here in floriduh

the mormon guy that was in it for jcp brought in all his cronies to run things into the ground. they accomplished that in short order. I'm still pissed cause my wife had but 7 yrs to go to retirement with eckerd. then they sold the damn chain to some idjits from canaduh and they ran the rest of it into the ground.

i wonder how many cronies will step into fed offices if mitt gets the nod.

[mitchum]

45. They made them up while sitting around in a treehouse...

according to mrs mitchum :)

[SoxFan]

63. Melchizedek

appears in the Old Testament.

In the Roman Catholic liturgy, he is mentioned in version 4 of the Eucharistic Prayer ("the bread and wine offered by your priest, Melchizedek")

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. I think ones level ends up to be in direct proportion to the size of the tithe

& standing in the community. His tithe would be very substantial.

[TwilightGardener]

3. There are no actual ordained clergy in the LDS church, from what I understand--

it's not surprising that a successful lifelong Mormon would rank pretty high.

[Common Sense Party]

9. There are no paid clergy. It's a "lay ministry."

Some guys are in the church their whole lives, but are only sort of active, or don't have obvious leadership potential. They rarely get called to serve as anything like Bishop or Stake President.

[Orsino]

23. That's cool.

Yet they still seem to love fancy titles and hierarchies. That's not so cool.

[tekisui]

27. The hierarchy is the key.

They have a power structure with the prophet at the head, and it runs like a giant corporation. A Quorum of Apostles are directly under the prophet, then Regional Presidents to Bishops who head the local individual church buildings.

This way the church is huge and everyone answers to the prophet.

Women cannot hold the priesthood at all. Every position of leadership is a male. Who gets called to leadership positions is chosen through revelation, based on worthiness. In other words, the old white guys chose their favorite white guys to join the club. And make all the rules(and their are thousands) for the little women and impressionable boys.

Boys-if you are good and worthy and act perfect, you can progress to positions of power.

Girls-if you are good and worthy and act perfect, you can marry a man.

[Diclotican]

43. tekisui

tekisui

Hello

I am not exactly in agreement with you. Woman have leadership position in the Church, not as priest, and such but they have important duties in the Church, and I know many excellent woman who are better to administrative thing that I am... But it is true that woman for the moment can not be member of the priesthood.. But that may change sometimes down the road?.. For 100 year only men over 21 with a minimum sum of money was allowed to wote.. Not everyone take it for granted.. So I guess that in due time, woman would have other responsibility i the church.. In the Bible only men have the priesthood, and that is maybe therefore our church today denied woman the right to have the priesthood.. But as even the Bible recognize, many woman in the bible have important duties, and was not "childlike" and in the mans custody all the time.. History is full of woman who shaped history as force full as any male.. Our church is maybes "oldened" in many cases, but woman have their right in the Church their to.. If you ask member of the Church instead you would be surprising to se howe many powerfully woman you would find there.. And I mean woman who have important duties, and who are respected as a voice to reconcile in the church. Even that they doesn't have the higher priesthood, or can be voted into important offices.. And if you have questing or something, please be free to go to http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD And as as much as you want.. They usually have a replay in 24 hour or so..


I don't know abut that "white mans club" you refer to, it is many other than white-anglo-Saxon american of "nobel decent" who are member of the Church. If you really want to test that, you have to look more closer into other church than our.. One of the biggest growth places for the such is in Latin-America, Europe, and Africa. For the most part US have "stagnated" as a growing group of people who want to be member of the Church.. So in time, it Will be reckoned that the "all white mans club" is already a "dead horse" and Will be that in the future too.. Our president is 95 year old, and even that he IS a "great man" he would be there for ever... And even our church have to change somewhat with the times.. As it have before when the times have changed.. And in our modern times our church have to come to grasp with many thing that our President maybe have to work with sometimes I guess...

I have the Melsideck priesthood, but I doesn't see me as "perfect" rather opposite if I may say it. But I try my best, and if I am lucky enough I may get a position, but if I am not to do so, I am happy as I am today. What is important is that I may worship my lord as I find it best, not as other try to impose it on my;)

To have a Mormon as president I really don't believe can be so dangerous - not after "the born again christian" mr Bush... He have doing more dangerous to US and its reputation in the world that a mormon president for 4 year could manage to do...

I really doubt that mr Mitt would be the next president in US, it would be someone else I believe.. Many "christians" who are More afraid about the mormons, than they are about a mad president, who are treating other sovereign country with nuclear war, if they comply with the wishes, and wimps from the "most powerfully nation in the world"

I do hope as a foreigner that US this time around manage to wot in a President who are capable of more than mr Bush have managed to do. For my it is less important whiths branch of the christendom he is member of, (or the lack of believe) but it is far More important to have a president who can do it possible for US to be a part of the world again, not as a "ass" but as a god world member... It would be nice with a mormon president, but I care less about that, than I care about a President who manage to repair and fix allot of the damage mr Bush have manage to do to US the last 7 year...

And it IS long to 20 january 2009, remember that..

Sorry my bad English, not my native language





:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[tekisui]

48. Diclotican

I respect your beliefs. I was raised mormon and have issues with it's patriarchal hierarchy. I have issues with a lot of the church's positions and how it is ran. That is why I am no longer a mormon.

I also don't think someone's private spiritual beliefs should be a factor in voting. But, some people's spiritual beliefs do influence their governance.

Mitt may be a fine mormon, but he would be a horrible president. He believes that freedom requires religion, for one. I would think that mormons wouldn't want someone like mitt to be the most visible face for their religion. If he is the nominee, hang on my friend, mormons will be dragged through the mud right along with him.

[Diclotican]

53. tekisui

tekisui

I understand, it is hard to have some issues with the church you have been raised in.. That I understand very well. And I hope, that the patric hal hi-archy someday would be down, and out. But I do believe it Will take a lot of time, and a lot of work before that would be the end exit.. And I have the full respect for any who are not a member of the church of later day saints, we have to find our own way in the "jungle" who are life I guess.. I hope I have found my way in the "jungle" and I hope you too, have found your way in the "jungle" as such.

When it come to it, it is not someone's private belief who should be the most important factor to vote or not to vote for someone. The important must be that you are doing your best in the office you are voted into... Not that you have that, or that faith and was to rule by it.. One President who believed that he is talking to Good is enough (then I am pointing to mr Bush)if I may say it...

I don't know mr Mitt, so I cant say if he is a good or bad mormon, or what personality he have. He may believe that freedom is religion, i doubt it is that important.. I have my freedom, and like it pretty well;). I doesn't see my believe as a "prison" or something to be ashamed about.. It have helped my allot much more than I maybe even know today.. And I am "free" to do what I feel is important..
He maybe not be a good president, and I don't believe he would be voted into the presidency anyway... To many who doesn't like mormons in US.. But after mr Bush, everything would be to the better.. Even a bad Mitt should not manage to do the stupid things that mr Bush have been doing for the last 7 year. You may have a better grasp of what is happening in US, specially with Mitt Romney but as I see it, you can just go up the mountain after Bush...

As I maybe have told.. I do hope that the next president of USA, whatever colour he may have partywice would manage to be a better president that the current president. I hope that the next president, would manage to give the world, and US a more optimistic version of the "most important office in the world" and even maybe try to repair some of the damage that mr Bush have been doing.. That should be the most important work for the next president.. What ever party line or whatever belief he may have...

[Kucinich4America]

4. A stake president would be the Mormon equivalency of an archbishop

With the LDS church though, they don't have "professional" clergy or a permanent hierarchy, except at the highest levels, i.e. The "Prophet" or President of the Church who, much like the Pope, is considered to be a stand in for Christ, and is a lifetime appointment.

Mitt would probably be considered a Melchizedek Priest for life, but that's relatively common among long term Mormon men. He wouldn't neccessarily need to have a formal leadership position in the church hierarchy.

[napi21]

6. I don't know anything about the LDDS and only personally knew

2 people that were members. One was another mother in my neighborhood when my boys were little. She was a very nice lady and I even went to a church lunch once with her. I was surprised that it was just a lunch and the only church stuff was a long table with a bunch of brochures on it that were free to peruse.

The other was a guy I worked with. He really didn't like me much because he happened to be outside my office a few times when I was quite pi**ed at somebody. I ALWAYS practiced professionalism and control on the phone, but when I hung up, well....lets just say I talked to myself rather graphically! I would never use that language directly to anyone, and if I had realized he was standing outside my door, I probably wouldn't have either. I really don't like to deliberately aggravate anyone, but I didn't know he was there until after my tirade.

I have the same problem with Romney that I have with Huck. I don't believe anyone's religious practices belong in government. I HATE that Shrub has been allowed to establish a Dept of Religion or whatever he calls it. I'm afraid both of those candidates would just continue those practices or perhapse even expand them!

I have my own religious beliefs, but I don't think I have any right to force them on anyone else, and I sure don't think tax money should support them!

[NAO]

7. Do Melchizedek Priests Wear Different Magick Underwear?

Ok, so he is a "High Priest of the Order of Melchizedek". Big deal, so was a Mr. Jesus H. Christ (D.O.B. 12-25-0001), if such a person ever existed, which is highly doubtful.

But I think it's fair to ask Mr. Romney about his Magick Underwear. What do they do? What are they made of? Do they protect his priestly testicles from evil demons?

[Kucinich4America]

8. As far as I know the Elohim Underoos are the same for one and all

....from the first Temple ceremony to the Council of 12 in SLC to the Godhood, if you make it that far.

[Diclotican]

44. NAO

NAO

I don't know about others, but I use standard boxershorts.... And I have the same priesthood as Mr Romney have;)

Diclotican

SOrry my bad engelish, not my native language

[CJCRANE]

10. FWIW I'm a

3rd Level Nebuchanezzar of the High Order of Zebulon in the Diocese of Ozymandium.

:P

[DFW]

13. In that case, say "przepraszam" five times in a row without a mistake

[Rageneau]

16. In that case, you must...

bow down before me.

[mwb970]

39. I'm in the Drowsy Venus chapter of the Sacred Stars Of the Milky Way. /nt

I'm the Exalted Big Dipper!

[orleans]

14. oh christ! like we want a priest as a president! KILL ME NOW! n/t

[Rageneau]

17. It ain't fair to get to be God AND President of the USA in one lifetime.

I mean, when Mitt gets to the Celestial Kingdom, how many of the OTHER gods will be able to say that?

[JVS]

18. Well at least he's not a freemason!

[SpiralHawk]

21. "Yeah (smirk) or even worse, a skull & boner. Smirk." - Commander AWOL

[trof]

22. Is that anything like a Grand Poobah? Or a High Mucketymuck?

Or was it Grand High Potentate?
No, I think that was the Loyal Order of the Mystic Knights of the Sea.
I bet the costume is cool though.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. The Southern evangelicals will find a way to explain this for their flock. I don't know who wrote

this, but it seems the "Christians" see the priesthood a tad differently than the LDS do. Let the religion wars begin!


Which tribe is it that can hold the Priesthood?

Joseph Fielding Smith, the 10th president and prophet of the LDS Church, said in vol. 3 of Doctrines of Salvation, that Joseph Smith was from the tribe of Ephraim. The largest part of the membership of the LDS Church are from that tribe, according to their patriarchal blessings.

Let’s look at what Mormon scriptures have to say about this.
In The Pearl of Great Price, The Book of Abraham, chapter 1:20-26, we read:

v.20 " Behold, Potiphar’s Hill was in the land of Ur, of Chaldea. And the Lord broke down the altar of Elkenah, and the gods of the land, and utterly destroyed them, and smote the priest that he died; and there was great mourning in Chaldea, and also in the court of Pharaoh; which pharaoh signifies king by royal blood."

21. "Now this king of Egypt was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was a partaker of the blood of the Canaanites by birth."

22. "From this descent sprang all the Egyptians, and thus the blood of the Canaanites was preserved in the land."

23. "The land of Egypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden."

24. "When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land."

25. "Now the first government of Egypt was established by Pharaoh, the oldest son of Egyptus, the daughter of Ham, and it was after the manner of the government of Ham, which was patriarchal."

26. "Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that order established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the blessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood." (Emphasis added).

From this we see that the Pharaoh and all the Egyptians were cursed and could not hold the priesthood, according to LDS scriptures, because they came through the lineage of Ham. (We are told that all "worthy men" are now allowed to receive the LDS priesthood, since 1978.) In God’s Word, the Bible, in Genesis, chapter 41, verse 45 we read, "And Pharaoh called Joseph’s name Zaphnath-paaneah; and gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On, and Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt."

Here we see that Joseph married an Egyptian woman. In verse 50 we continue,

v. 50 "And unto Joseph were born two sons before the years of famine came,..."

v. 51, "And Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh...

v. 52, "And the name of the second called Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction."

Thus we see that Ephraim and Manesseh were half Egyptian - born of an Egyptian mother and a Hebrew father. These are the ones that are cursed concerning the priesthood, according to the Book of Abraham. So they could not hold the priesthood, even if another tribe, besides the Levites, would have been allowed to have the priesthood. And most, if not all, male members of the Mormon church that claim the priesthood, come from the lineage of Ephraim or Manasse

Going back to what Joseph Smith claimed, that he and Oliver Cowdery, received the Aaronic Priesthood first from John the Baptist and then the Melchizedek Priesthood from Peter, James and John; there is no way Joseph Smith could have been given either priesthood, if his own scriptures be true. In addition to this, Hebrews 7 declares that the Aaronic or Levitical Priesthood was abolished. It is also clear from the Bible that there was no Melchizedek priesthood. The Apostles did not have the Melchizedek Priesthood. Only Jesus can hold the Melchizedek Priesthood.

The Book of Abraham states that the lineage of Ham was cursed. Because the lineage Joseph Smith and all male LDS members claim to come from is cursed, they cannot hold the priesthood according to Joseph Smith's own scriptures.

The Bible is trustworthy in what it contains. It requires intense study to know what God has in store for the believer. For it is to them that believe he gives power and authority. (1 Peter 2:9.)

In Acts we see that the Apostles went out preaching and healing people in the name of Jesus, not by the power of the Melchizedek Priesthood. In John 1:12 it says, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power..."

http://www.hismin.com/priesthood.htm

[Kucinich4America]

58. The fundagelicals who wrote this assume that JC had no descendants.

However, the Mormons believe that Jesus had at least three wives and a number of children, and that Joseph Smith was a direct physical descendant of Christ himself, which would entitle Joseph to the Melchizedek Priesthood. Now how that transferred to Oliver Cowdery, or Brigham Young, or anyone else since then, I'm not sure, except for Joseph Fielding Smith, who would obviously be a direct descendant of the original LDS prophet.

[FreeState]

67. No that is not true

THe LDS Church teaches that the Priesthood was restored via angels visiting and laying on of hands to Joseph Smith - the same way one gets it today. I have the Melchizedek as well - I was ordained when I was getting ready to go on my mission. Yes al those 19 year olds on bikes have the Melchizedek Priesthood. The Church does not teach - nor has it ever been part of official doctrine that Smith or anyone else in the church was/is a decedent of Jesus.

[MadHound]

25. Interesting, we have two 'Pug candidates running for the office of messiah. Scary,

Messiah in the old Hebrew was the title given to priest-kings. There was nothing divine, that form of meaning crept into Christianity. No, in the older sense of the world, the messiah was the figure where ultimately church and state met. And here we have two candidates wanting to take on that title:eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. The scariest thing to me is the people who vote for them! Do they REALLY want a theocracy?

Grand Ayatollah Huckabee or Grand Melchizedek Romney? Are they insane?

Don't answer that...they ARE insane.

[ileus]

29. I bet he's also a mason.

[spanone]

31. he's also an asshole.

[Breeze54]

33. I don't care...he's just

a plastic asshole to me and he won't win anyway, so why waste time on him? :shrug:

[Rosemary2205]

34. This is so totally a NON ISSUE

A man has to do something really bad to be denied the Priesthood. They start out as an Elder and normally, within a year (for converts) and by their 30's or even earlier for some are High Priests. Pretty much every male in the Mormon Church over 30 is a High Priest.

Saying Mitt is a High Priest is a big fat non issue.

[tekisui]

37. It is just one of one thousand questions

that will be tossed to a mormon candidate. If he is the gopper's nominee, we will hear and ask many, many more questions like this.

It is not a big deal, but it calls attention to the inner-workings of his religion.

[Rosemary2205]

40. As a progressive

I could care less if he worships cow turds. In America we theoretically have every right to do our own thing so long as we don't maim, kill or otherwise stomp all over our neighbors while doing it.

That said, Mitt the Twit is unfit for the presidency, for 6.4 billion reasons that have nothing to do with what church he does, or does not, go to.

The active rank and file of the Mormon Church are generally good decent honest generous hardworking people. They are no more perfect or imperfect than the rest of us. They have their criminals and liars, just like any other group. They are no more kooky than most any other group. We all do what it takes to get through this life of ours the best we can and try not to hurt anyone along the way. You won't find me badmouthing all Mormons because of Mitt the Twit.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

42. Okay, what's your point?

I wasn't voting for him regardless of whether or not he is a member of the Melchizedek Priesthood or whether or not he's a Mormon. I just don't like him as a candidate.

Why should I care?

[Spideynw]

46. High Priests are based on age

A High Priest is just someone in the Mormon church who has the Melchizedek priesthood and is older. You have Elders and High Priests. But it is just a title, nothing else.

The offices are Bishop, Stake President, Quorum of the Seventy, Quorum of the Twelve, and Prophet.

But every Melchizedek priesthood holder (any male over the age of 18) is either an Elder or High Priest, but it is not an office.

[CJCRANE]

54. Sounds quite straightforward.

As with most religions - if you're not familiar with the nomenclature then it can sound obscure or exotic. I actually really like the Biblical names and stories (it's just I don't always agree with the dogma).

[kurth]

51. But is he GOD yet?

[Diclotican]

55. kurth

kurth

No man can be GOD, but if we are doing our best in this life, we may come to a better place....

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language

[Kucinich4America]

60. To clarify this one...

I'm not sure which particular Mormon book of scripture this is in, but this is how I've heard it....

"As man is, Elohim once was. As Elohim is, man will be"

Meaning that God was once a man like ourselves, and that man can become a God.

[Diclotican]

62. Kucinich4America

Kucinich4America

Ah, i see;). Well the meaning of that, as I understand it, is that IF we, humans try to do the best we can, we can be "godlike" in some ways. And in the doctrine God once was a man who become god. A theological nut if you ask me, for what was before the man?... But as I understand it, we can be in the afterlife be in the same place as God, and doing good deeds.. And that cant be bad?

Maybe it is just me who are not reading the book of mormons enough, I know many people who can manage to try to learn you much better than I can do..

But I believe it is hard to be LIKE god;).. So I prefer to be myself, and try what I do, as best I can..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language

[FreeState]

68. Thats not in LDS scriptures or Cannon

that was a statement made by a church leader - I believe Young - but its not part of scripture.

[Mz Pip]

52. Can he fly

That title sounds like it should be reserved for someone who can fly. If not, it's just a waste of words.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[lumberjack_jeff]

56. He gets to wear the magic underwear with the "S" on the chest. n/t

[DFW]

59. Melchizedek, Bishop, Elder, Seventy, High Priest, Patriarch, Apostle, President of the Church

It sounds like the team positions of MAD's "43 Man Squamish."

[Prefer]

61. I'd rather have an LSD priest as president, rather than and LSD priest

Either of these will do...

[K Gardner]

64. Romney: "I want to put God in the center of our public squares"..

and.. "I think secularism is anticonstitutional". Just heard him on CSpan and it was really scary. He's like the Stepford Mormon. He and Huck are just the same, only Huck is the trailer park version. Either way, they're both theocrats and can never EVER be allowed to gain the pentultimate seat of Power.

[SoxFan]

65. The tone of this thread

I'm unsettled by the tone of this thread. It seems to have degenerated into a lot of juvenille mocking of the Mormon faith, and that's something none of us should condone.

Anyone old enough to remember Mo Udall? He was a Democratic congressman who ran in the 1976 presidential primaries, and ultimately finished a strong second to Jimmy Carter in the delegate count. He was considered one of the great environmentalists and great progressive voices of the 1970s. He was also a Mormon.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is a Mormon. So is Dick Swett, a former Democratic congressman from here in New Hampshire.

Mitt Romney gives us enough ammunition. Please don't stoop to crude remarks about the deeply held beliefs of many Democrats.

[FreeState]

66. So is my dad and about 2 million other men

This is not a high calling. It basically means he can officiate at a local level. Its nothing to be concerned about. All mormon males are ordained to the priesthood - its a lay ministry and every active male member who is worthy gets ordained. The are usually about 30 High priest in each ward (local congregation of about 200-300 members).

[razzzleberry]

70. what does 'lay' imply, when there is no clergy?

perhaps the word 'lay', should be replaced by
'non-paid'.

or not?

[Mutineer]

71. Sounds like he's a character in a Harry Potter novel

n/t