Are there any DU"er's still posting here,.who Remember "Bush VS Gore," 2000?

[KoKo]

IF there are any....what are you feeling about the Supreme Court's Decision and the Elevation by Bush of everyone who participated on the Repug Side in that "Selection" who have served making BIG BUCKS in this Criminal Enterprise P-Residency?

Those who remember that time...

WHO IS YOUR CANDIDATE?

[MNDemNY]

1. Gore.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Of course we remember, KoKo.

How can you forget having your ountry taken over by a gang of thugs?

And let me add that I think Gore fought as hard as he could under the circumstances. He was undercut by the Democratic Establishment as much as by anybody else, in the end.

I don't have a candidate yet, although I'm leaning toward Edwards. (Now that I've finally given up on Gore getting in.)

[Pastiche423]

3. Gore

[zonkers]

4. I was here crying on my keyboard! Diff. screen name. Came via TAP/World Crossing message board.

I used to post under a diffent DU screenname which I unfortunately terminated. Anyway, to answer your question....

My candidate is Edwards, the only election theft victim from the last two cycles still in the running. I want change. I think he can deliver it. And I am fascinated at how passionately some folks seem to hate him. I also dig Biden and Obama. Hillary can get lost. I want new blood.

[frogcycle]

21. I'm with you

I vacillate between wanting Biden first/Edwards second, and vice versa. Right now, I think Biden in the top spot, mending our international relations and negotiating us out of the crack bushco has put us in, with Edwards either as veep or Atty Gen (as Bobby was to JFK) taking on the healthcare establishment first, and the myriad other inequities in jobs, education, etc. right behind.

I've no problem with Edwards as Pres, but this seems like an even better formula.

[Pastiche423]

23. I am fastinated by anyone that likes him

Two years into his senate term, (the only elected office he has held), he began to run for president.

What did he do during those two years?

He:

Co-sponsored and voted for the genocide of the Iraqi people

Voted for the Patriot Act

Voted for Homeland Security

Voted for Yucca Mtn

Voted for the bankruptcy bill

Voted to exempt fuel refiners from liability

Voted against regulation of drinking water

Did not bother to vote on an Iraq investigation

Was a DLCer

Is a Bilderberger

His ADA voting record was 60% <-------- no liberal there

AND

He vowed to include Republicans in his Cabinet if he's elected president.

But, for a silver tongued snake oil salesman, he's got purty hair.

[rurallib]

5. No Gore so I have gone with Edwards

He at least is not talking 'bipartisan' with a bunch of thugs who want to knife us and leave us for dead.
Bush v. Gore? I was just in shock over the whole thing. It was all so unprecedented. I was in real shock listening to the oral arguments. I believe Gore did what he felt was best for the nation. The one question I always have is - did we learn anything from all this? And so far my answer is a tempered NO. Kerry should have fought, but how could a country be so stupid as to even let that fruitcake come so close that he could steal another election.

[Whisp]

6. is there anyone here that thinks Election Fraud is only done by

the republicans?

[EFerrari]

8. No, because the Democrats got right on this when the election was stolen

Oh -- wait. No, they didn't.

[Whisp]

14. who is now the most fraudulent?

in the close camp?
We expect it of the Repugs ( or trained for it)
I find what is happening now, for too long, with the weak kneed challenge to the Bush machine, is very au propo. This is the way it was meant. Fuck the people, but let's take some more time to relish that supposition that Dems are Good, Repubs are Bad. like a super-bowel game.

[blm]

11. No. Many of us know how helpful McAuliffe, Clinton and Carville were to BushInc

over the years.

RNC stole elections and DNC let them do it.

Observation from historian Douglas Brinkley in April2004:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill's timely defense of Bush during his summer/2004 book tour:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

The Carvilles on election night:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Hillary, always there to do the right thing....to support the troops, of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[damntexdem]

12. Election fraud is one thing.

The years of world-destroying criminality that followed from this one is altogether different.

Not just the U.S. but the whole world will have to struggle hard and long to recover, if that is even possible.

[Whisp]

15. I am looking for a difference.

and I don't see one.

[EFerrari]

17. You need to look again. The Republicans have vastly out played

anyone else re election fraud. Who owns the machine companies, just for starters?

[Whisp]

19. and the machinists will back up their own interests.

as it has been, as it always will be.

we have to get out of this mega sport footsball mentality.

[EFerrari]

7. Dennis and Edwards. There are no other choices for those of us who remember.

No more placators. We're drowning in them. :nuke:

[zonkers]

9. Agree!!!!!!!!!

[damntexdem]

10. Who could forget? Who would not loathe the years of criminality since?

Just one horrible result: the seven years of impeding world action on global warming.

Too many other terrible effects to note.

Why do you want to depress me?

[Swamp Rat]

13. LiteByte Bandit remembers 12/12/2000

[petersjo02]

16. That's when I came to find DU

and sign up.

[McCamy Taylor]

18. Gang of Five's "Legacy" is in the Toilet, Enron-California Needs to be Prosecuted, Edwards

[razzzleberry]

20. the Florida court left a lot to be desired

seems ill advised,
(decision of 12-8-00)
to order (in effect),
that in Miami-Dade county,
that the ballots that were not examined in November,
would be examined in December, with different rules
and different supervision,
and the sub-tallies added together.

There had to have been another way.

[Peregrine Took]

22. I'll never forget that moment when we heard the lowlifes on the SC "decided"

to stop the vote count in Fla.

I was sick to my stomach and shocked to my core.

I waited for the "mob" to begin to appear so I could join them and march somewhere to express my outrage but nothing ever materialized and so, cowardly, I went home and did nothing.

Gore, of course. Edwards in lieu of Gore.

[progressivebydesign]

24. I've been here since that day. Gore would be my first.. but it's Clinton.

And Edwards is a CLOSE second!!! I would happily support John Edwards should he get the nod. I would volunteer for him, as well.

I was so heartbroken about the "selection", and perhaps more heartbroken over the 2004 election, as it felt like our only hope -- getting Bush out of there.

[Desertrose]

25. I wish I could just pretend its all been a bad dream

since 12/12/00....*sigh* instead of the nightmare it has become.



Unfortunately, the Dems did not stand behind Gore. I will never forget that part. I knew at that moment nothing would ever be the same again.....

[JitterbugPerfume]

26. How could we ever forget KoKo?

It changed our lives in ways we could not then imagine.

My candidate is now ( and forever) AL GORE,

but since it is pretty obvious that he wont enter the fray this time , It is Edwards.

[otohara]

27. Supreme Beings Ignored Will of People

in this country and Florida - hate those fuckers who wrought this nightmare on us for their own political gain.

[Rex]

28. Never will forgive or forget.

[Cleita]

29. Moi!

:hi:

Like you, I'm still here and nothing has changed for the better. Back then I thought Boosh was a temporary anomaly who would be flushed away in 2004. Boy was I wrong! Now I don't know what to think especially since he and Dick Cheney have successfully turned this country into a fascist, banana republic. I don't care for Clintonianism because I have realized that a lot of the problems we have today are due to Bill's triangulating during his term, like NAFTA for instance.

I'm not supporting Hillary or any of the candidates with their roots in the DLC in the primaries. She stands for more corporate capitulation, as does Obama et al.. I guess I will have to swallow my bitter pill after that to support whichever Democrat wins the nomination and hope for the best or at least hope that the opportunity will be there to make them do the right thing and turn this country back into a democracy with the domestic, social programs needed to compete in the world and keep this country great, as it once was.

[flashl]

30. Wasn't DUer at the time

but remember disbelief and confusion trying to reconcile the SCOTUS ruling 7 to 2 under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

[kaybea]

31. 12/12/00 the day democracy died, AFAIC,

and nothing that's occurred since then has changed my mind; in fact absolutely everything that's happened has been filtered through the lens of my cynical desolation ever since that day.

9/11? I thought it was an inside job before the dust even settled.

The Iraq War? an obvious snow-job with its changing roster of transparent lies and justifications.

The Ohio vote fraud 2004? a reprise of Florida 2000 with an added Diebold kick in the face.


I only started reading DU when Jim Jeffords jumped to caucus with the Dems back in 01, and I felt a small glimmer of hope and decided to once again keep abreast politically.

I'm a resident of PA so my primary vote never matters. I watch fellow Dems decide my candidate for me, and then I vote the only viable option I'm given. I suppose it will be Hillary this time. I'll vote for her with the Supreme Court in mind, hoping that another fiasco like Bush V. Gore will never happen again.