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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:29 PM
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Go Dodd!-FISA and the Filibuster — How It’s Going To Go Down and What You Can Do
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 04:58 PM by kpete
Dodd, FISA and the Filibuster — How It’s Going To Go Down and What You Can Do
By: Jane Hamsher Sunday December 16, 2007 12:03 pm

The latest word from the Dodd camp regarding what will happen on the FISA bill is that tomorrow, Dodd will take the floor and not yield.

He can take "questions" from other senators during the filibuster, which can be no more than 20 minutes. We understand that Kennedy and Feingold so far have agreed to do this.

They're asking for people to express their thoughts on the subject and leave them in the comments below. Dodd is going to have plenty of time to read, so if you'd like to have your feelings on the matter read on the Senate floor you can leave your them in the comments below.
Dodd's Statement: http://chrisdodd.com/blog/dodd%2526%2523039%3Bs-statement-fisa
Take action at: http://chrisdodd.com/filibuster
Go Dodd.

more at:
http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/dodd-fisa-and-the-filibuster-how-its-going-to-go-down-and-what-you-can-do/#comments

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(kpete)MY OFFERING to Dodd:http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/48/16982

US Constitution in Grave Danger
By Albert Gore Jr.
t r u t h o u t | Speech

Monday 16 January 2006

The following is the transcript as prepared for delivery.
Congressman Barr and I have disagreed many times over the years, but we have joined together today with thousands of our fellow citizens - Democrats and Republicans alike - to express our shared concern that America's Constitution is in grave danger.

In spite of our differences over ideology and politics, we are in strong agreement that the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the Administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.

As we begin this new year, the Executive Branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue without regard to the established law enacted by Congress to prevent such abuses.

It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:31 PM
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1. Why can a filibuster last no more than 20-minutes?
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 04:32 PM by IndyOp
I am freaking sick-and-tired of Reid's "Marcus of Queensbury" rules...
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:38 PM
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2. I think that means that the questions from
other Senators can last for 20 minutes.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:59 PM
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8. Thank you - I read the OP too quickly and jumped to a wrong conclusion. (n/t)
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:50 PM
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3. I think that 20 min
reference means that another Senator can interrupt to ask a question that could take up to 20 minuets to ask, giving Senator Dodd a break for the potty, a quick bite to eat, etc, then he can resume his filibuster.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:59 PM
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9. Thank you - I read the OP too quickly and jumped to a wrong conclusion. (n/t)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:53 PM
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4. Done! K&R! eom
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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:00 PM
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5. A KICK FROM
OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:01 PM
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6. Left my comment
K & R
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:10 PM
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7. GO, CHRIS!!!!
:bounce: WOW! a Senator with Integrity AND Balls!:bounce::woohoo: I'll be watching!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:08 PM
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10. KICK for an American patriot
It's nobody's business but mine and the person I'm conversing with on the telephone. It's nobody's business what I'm looking at on the Internet.

Go, Senator Chris Dodd, and show Harry Reid how it's done while you're at it. I'm only sorry I'm not closer to DC so I could bring a very large box of tea bags.

Julie
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:57 PM
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11. Realistically I don't understand how we got to this point
not to speak of intellectually. Retroactive immunity!? Orwellian. Yep, Orwellian.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:46 AM
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16. Not to mention Dodd is forced to filibuster his own leadership!
What is wrong with these people?

Why do Democrats continue to put up with this shit?

You just wait, when this thing goes all wobbly on us again, and the amnesty passes, there will be whole bunch of apologists for them.

It's considered to be Dem bashing on DU if you whine about getting fucked over again by our party leadership.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:12 AM
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18. THAT is what is incredulous to me,
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:13 AM by Le Taz Hot
having to filibuster against the Democrats. Goddess, how I hate Bob Barr but I have to commend him and any other brave souls with enough spine to stand up and uphold the Constitution that they swore to uphold.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:58 PM
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12. The 4th amendment reads:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Just keep reading that over and over and over until it sinks in....

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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 08:19 PM
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13. I believe Wyden is with him as well..
Wyden and Feingold were the only intel members to vote against it. Feingold also opposed it in the Judic. Committee. I believe Russ is the only dual member.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:09 AM
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14. kick n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:12 AM
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15. K & R
Go Chris Dodd!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:07 AM
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17. Kick for Dodd!
:kick:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:13 AM
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19. He was one of the few that spoke for Haiti
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:14 AM by seemslikeadream
when others were silent



Haiti, 1959, (for Aristide, Stan Goff, and my father), "The U.S. military mission in Haiti, to train the troops of noted dictator Francois Duvalier, used its air, sea and ground power to smash an attempt to overthrow Duvalier by a small group of Haitians aided by some Cubans and other Latin Americans." - William Blum, Rogue State


Artist Statement
This particular selection of drawings from the ongoing series - in which 60 are complete – focuses on the Middle East for several reasons. First, I want people to understand the history, context, and level of suffering in this region as a result of our foreign policy. Second, Iraq is THE pressing issue of the day. We are engaged in a war that was never really a war but an invasion, occupation, unjustified attack – call it what you will. All I know is that over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died as a result of our military actions that bring more profit to the greedy and less welfare and peace to the world. Third, as one regional example, you can see how war births other wars. War NEVER brings peace. Like in so many other regions, as you can see in the world map, the United States fights wars to maintain its global dominance, its imperialist vision, its capitalist nightmare.
Do bombing campaigns make the world safer or free from terrorism? Or do they just increase the death toll, the already high levels of fear and anger, the rage and endless grieving in this world? Can any deadly bombs distinguish between an innocent civilian and a terrorist, a child or a soldier, a wedding party or an ammunition facility?
Maps are preeminently a language of power, not protest. I offer these maps as protests against each and every bombing.



http://www.ackland.org/art/exhibitions/faculty/2007/slavick.php




http://www.counterpunch.org/zinn12152007.html

Bomb After Bomb A Violent Cartography


Weekend Edition
December 15 / 16, 2007



A Violent Cartography
Bomb After Bomb
By HOWARD ZINN

This essay serves as the introduction to Bomb After Bomb: a Violent Cartography, a collection of drawings illustrating the history of bombing by elin o'Hara slavick. o'Hara slavick is a professor of art at the University of North Carolina. More of her visionary work can be viewed on her website. AC / JSC

Perhaps it is fitting that elin o'Hara slavick's extraordinary evocation of bombings by the United States government be preceded by some words from a bombardier who flew bombing missions for the U.S. Air Corps in the second World War. At least one of her drawings is based on a bombing I participated in near the very end of the war--the destruction of the French seaside resort of Royan, on the Atlantic coast.

As I look at her drawings, I become painfully aware of how ignorant I was, when I dropped those bombs on France and on cities in Germany, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, of the effects of those bombings on human beings. Not because she shows us bloody corpses, amputated limbs, skin shredded by napalm. She does not do that. But her drawings, in ways that I cannot comprehend, compel me to envision such scenes.

I am stunned by the thought that we, the "civilized" nations, have bombed cities and countrysides and islands for a hundred years. Yet, here in the United States, which is responsible for most of that, the public, as was true of me, does not understand--I mean really understand--what bombs do to people. That failure of imagination, I believe, iscritical to explaining why we still have wars, why we accept bombing as a common accompaniment to our foreign policies, without horror or disgust.

We in this country, unlike people in Europe or Japan or Africa or the Middle East, or the Caribbean, have not had the experience of being bombed. That is why, when the Twin Towers in New York exploded on September 11, there was such shock and disbelief. This turned quickly, under the impact of government propaganda, into a callous approval of bombing Afghanistan, and a failure to see that the corpses of Afghans were the counterparts of those in Manhattan.




http://criticalspatialpractice.blogspot.com/2007/07/fronteres.html
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:14 AM
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20. I applaud Dodd for doing this, however,
I have to wonder if he would still be fillibustering if he wasn't running for President. I hate to even think that, but I can't help it. Go Dodd, I hope the fillibuster is successful, and I hope that you get support from other Senators.
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