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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:01 AM Original message |
OFFICIAL FISA BILL DISCUSSION THREAD #1 |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. thanks for this reminder. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Pledge of Alegience. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. I don't mean to sound cranky, but what exactly are they |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Of the corporation, By the Corporation |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Add "Official" to your thread title |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Just did. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. Listening in... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
6. Harry comes to the floor - vote expected at noon |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. Reid up. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
8. Harry Reid up |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. Time divied up, Leadership time withheld |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. McConnell bellows his bullshit (R. Leadership time) |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. Reid just said Dodd was to speak. Does anyone know what time he's planning to take the floor? |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Original message |
He's at the mic. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
12. oh, crap I hate McConnell |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. Mitch McConnell ... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. and to do the peoples' business?? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yes it would! |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
15. Rockefeller is up, controls 20 minutes |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
16. Rockefeller is up. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
18. Rockefeller |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Too much like |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
21. Jello Jay is bragging about his Intelligence bill right now. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I fear that many do not |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. That's my fear as well, citizen_jane. The media failed to inform. Catastrophic failure. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. As I said in another thread... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. It is "illegal surveillance" because they captured ALL fiber optic traffic. Wire tapping |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. You and I and |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
24. Thanks! nt |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
25. Rockefeller is running throught the bill's history now |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
26. Not a word yet about immunity (10:21 am) |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
27. As another DUer suggested. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
48. they are trampling all over our rights. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. Exclusivity question discussed now |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
29. We're being assured that there will |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. impeach the sob and get it over with |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. will this be our Christmas present a Big FU to the American people. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
31. Supposedly a "limited" |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
32. Sen. Jay Rockefeller and the "the $66,600 bargain!" Is it a quid pro quo with the telecoms? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. Here it is ... Immunity |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
34. Retroactive Immunity... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
35. Damn Rockfeller; he's an apologist for the telecom companies. His |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yep.. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. His testimony is maddening.,. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I know, and agree it's maddening. We cannot be privy to anything |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
36. Does "the specified timeframe" exclude pre-911 domestic spying? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. shameful, cowardly obfuscation. Patriotosm is the last refuge--and why didn't QWEST obey the order? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Nacchio and Qwest: Another Political Prosecution? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. I cannot wait to hear Dodd. nt |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
41. Oh, goody, Kit Bond now up. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Kit Bond: Our "outmoded" FISA bill! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
42. oh if it isn't the jerk who thinks waterboarding is like swimming. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
45. What telecom company has their meathooks in Rockefeller? ..... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. AT&T $32,500 = Verizon $30,500. What a bargain!! |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Bwahahaha!!! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
49. "Our men and women fighting overseas |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. what the hell is that suppose to mean. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:45 AM Original message |
Basically he's trying to claim that |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:44 AM Original message |
So taking away our rights here |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
55. Wait a a minute here - did you hear all of what Rockefeller really said? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I think the whole point is to keep us confused, so we don't know what they are really doing! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. those who watch those stations are definitely walking around in a fog. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. You got it....They excell at Double Talk....so you don't find out what's in a bill for months! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. I only heard part of what he said but got the distinct impression |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
60. hiding crimes behind language |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. get the hook please. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. lol..no kidding |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
61. Oh sit down and shut up .... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Is he filibustering? Oye! nt |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
63. Hi guys, I'm here too |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
65. Here's Dodd! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. Dodd's up! |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
67. w00t! Dodd up! n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
68. NO, fucklehead. You need a bill that protects and defends the Constitution |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
70. Dodd is up!!!!! |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
71. The Democratic party is broken. They've made themselves irrelevant. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
73. Sanity comes to the Senate!!!!! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. He needs to slow-w-w down-n-n-n. nt |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. You can tell this issue |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
92. Yep, but not quite yet. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
75. . . . Those who voted for the IWR |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
76. We need a "Protect America from the President" Act..... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I fear, before this is over, it won't be just * we need protection from. nt |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Very true..... |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I fear you are probably correct. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Protect the World and the Environment Act from this nutcase. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
78. The senate is 'debating' the actions of a criminal administration |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. So true....It's an indicator of how far this country has fallen...... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #87 |
97. I think so too. (an indicator) |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Great points, Solly. This whole theatre is lending legitimacy |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #89 |
100. "...to an issue that shouldn't even be one.Kind of like torture. " |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
83. Alright Chris Dodd! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. short memories is right!! |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
85. Dodd fucking ROCKS! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
86. Just called Senator Boxer's office |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Not allowed? That's odd, isn't it? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. VERY disturbing, isn't it? |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #94 |
107. Many Americans don't care, they really don't |
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watrwefitinfor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
88. Dodd is making one of the most important speeches of our lifetimes on the Senate floor today. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. the media wants to keep the american people as usual dumbed down. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
91. Dodd .... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #91 |
98. oof I have to excuse myself, |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. S'okay... |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
95. Preach on, brother Chris! |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
96. I'm here |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. more of them have to kick ass. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #102 |
112. Amen to that |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
101. CSpan 2 is down in the Pittsburgh Area (Comcast)... |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Comcast sucks..... |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #104 |
118. Try this link and choose your player to listen online to CSpan2, Senate session: |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. do you have computer to listen or watch? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm watching online now... |
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Nictuku (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #101 |
110. You can stream it |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
105. For this executive branch, Secrecy is Power |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Me too!!!! |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
111. "If the case would go to trial, the corporations would lose." |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
113. Dodd is doing good. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
114. Saying that A.T.&T. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
115. Is it time |
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G_Leo_Criley (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
116. "bring checks and balances... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
117. Moving this Tread here: |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
119. ...... |
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