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LostinVA
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:35 PM Original message |
Being anti death penalty doesn't make someone pro killer/anti victim |
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Mojambo
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. Very simply and accurately put. n/t |
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LostinVA
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thank YOU |
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NMMNG
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. True. Killing to show that killing is wrong is crazy. |
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rasputin1952
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. The DP has never been a deterrent to crime... |
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flashl
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Mon Dec-17-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Georgia pardon executed black woman after 60 years |
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lost-in-nj
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. yes DNA is your friend |
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alarimer
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Mon Dec-17-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Over 100 people have been released from death row after being exonerated |
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rasputin1952
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. People who commit crimes need to be dealt with... |
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Genanderson
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
68. I have so many problems with this... |
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Phillycat
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Tue Dec-18-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. I agree with you. |
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LanternWaste
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Tue Dec-18-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. But I've never met anyone with the wisdom to make that determination. |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
62. don't be so presumptious |
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NYC Liberal
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
67. Just because some people might deserve to die |
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Genanderson
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Tue Dec-18-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. I disagree |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Justice vs. vengeance |
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rasputin1952
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. The DP is not Justice, it is vengeance. |
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Genanderson
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:22 AM Original message |
Response: |
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rasputin1952
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Tue Dec-18-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. I have to ask... |
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Genanderson
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Response: |
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Hosnon
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. A deterrent does not necessarily have to completely stop a practice. |
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Worst Username Ever
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Just like being pro-choice doesn't make someone pro-abortion. |
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LostinVA
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Mon Dec-17-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yup, I always correct people when they call me "pro abortion" |
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rasputin1952
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Mon Dec-17-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. No one is "pro-abortion", most of us are pro-choice... |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Your last sentence is right on target |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
63. I am |
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MonkeyFunk
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Of course |
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Buzz Clik
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Mon Dec-17-07 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm surprised that has to be explained. Some folks see things only one way, I guess. |
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slackmaster
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Mon Dec-17-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. R |
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varkam
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. Huzzah! |
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aikoaiko
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. what do say to victims who want the dp? |
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jberryhill
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Mon Dec-17-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. The same thing you say to victims who don't want the death penalty. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. More importantly "It's not about you" |
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Cybergata
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Tue Dec-18-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Vengeance doesn't make the pain go away, ever - Forgiveness does |
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aikoaiko
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Tue Dec-18-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I'm not as sure as you are that forgiveness is the only freedom for victims/victims families. |
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Tyler Durden
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. You want revenge? You take it. |
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aikoaiko
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Wed Dec-19-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. tell me the difference between revenge and justice. |
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Tyler Durden
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The fact that you see so little difference between the two tells much about you. |
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aikoaiko
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. so its the emotions you don't like. |
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Tyler Durden
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
73. There's no point talking to you. |
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aikoaiko
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I see why you have a hard time talking to me -- you think I'm advocating for an eye for an eye |
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Zynx
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
65. I hate to put it this bluntly, but too bad. |
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Tyler Durden
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Well put. |
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Blue-Jay
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yes. That is true. |
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Catherine Vincent
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. That's what idiot Freepers think. nt |
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RB TexLa
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. Pro-DP here but I agree with you. However there is no anti or pro victim positions |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's correct |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. thank you |
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Nevilledog
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. That's not particularly true in Arizona. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. How is that legal??? |
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Nevilledog
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Tue Dec-18-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. They made it part of the Arizona State Constitution. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I would think that wouldn't stand up to a higher court challenge |
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Nevilledog
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. It's fine and dandy as far as the courts are concerned. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Have they changed the state laws on trial discovery? |
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Nevilledog
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Consider what the Constitution doesn't say about discovery. |
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RB TexLa
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Well federal court you are dealing with US attorneys and they pretty much work under a law of their |
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Tyler Durden
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. And as Emotion Enhancers in punishment phases. |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
53. I just started a thread about this, and I could not agree more |
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RB TexLa
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Wed Dec-19-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I feel there are crimes for which no amount of time incarcerated adequately |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Mon Dec-17-07 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm against the death penalty and against life w/o parole in almost all cases |
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Riktor
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Mon Dec-17-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. Don't confuse them with facts... |
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HuffleClaw
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Tue Dec-18-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
23. someone actually claimed that? |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It always happens in the DP threads |
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Zynx
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
66. I would name the name, but I believe that is in bad form. |
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FredScuttle
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
30. Well said, Lost |
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flvegan
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. The Death Penalty is revenge, not punishment. |
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cboy4
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
33. Yes, as always, very well said Rosemary. |
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LostinVA
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Tue Dec-18-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. It's probably already happening, Damie |
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porphyrian
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Tue Dec-18-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. But hyperbole and binary thinking are the most popular brands today... |
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Javaman
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Tue Dec-18-07 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. Personally, I have always thought that life in prison was the |
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blondeatlast
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Tue Dec-18-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
37. Indeed. Thank you. nt |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
50. True |
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redqueen
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
51. It's really sad that this has to be explained. (nt) |
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Mike03
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Wed Dec-19-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. Agreed |
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Lone_Star_Dem
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Wed Dec-19-07 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
59. Someone I know was murdered recently |
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Genanderson
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Interesting |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. agree |
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Lone_Star_Dem
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I want him punished, yes. |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
61. agree |
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Prophet 451
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
71. No shit, Captain Obvious? |
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Tyler Durden
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Read some of the other posts. |
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Prophet 451
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Point taken n/t |
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depakid
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
72. Life without parole for various things is also draconian |
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DutchLiberal
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. I also don't believe in life in prison without parole. |
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krispos42
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
80. Either way, the perp leaves the prison in a hearse |
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Uncle Joe
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
82. What it makes me is against the possibility of the wrong person being executed by mistake. |
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