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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:12 PM
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The New Yorker's Review Of 'Charlie Wilson's War'


The new Mike Nichols film, “Charlie Wilson’s War,” is ninety-seven minutes long. Into that time, it packs political machination, helicopter gunships, single-malt whiskey, Las Vegas, Islamabad, naked butts, and eight years of war. The film, adapted from George Crile’s book, doesn’t always work, but it sure offers value for money. One reason for this economy is that Nichols has paired up for the first time with Aaron Sorkin, late of “The West Wing,” whose scripts operate on the principle that there is no affair of state, however tangled or burdensome, that cannot be breezed through at a brisk dramatic pace. That breeze is enviable (you feel it in an idealist like Capra, as well as in a cynic like Preston Sturges), but it comes with a risk: watch too much TV, relish the ease and aplomb of a movie like “Charlie Wilson’s War,” and you may start to wish—even to believe—that all government can be run this way, with so little friction and such style.

Charles Wilson was, until 1996, a Democratic congressman for the Second Congressional District in Texas. Nichols’s film gets going in 1980, when this upstanding representative of the people found himself in hot water. Up to his neck in it, to be exact, with a Playboy cover girl and a couple of friendly strippers sharing the soak. This, we understand, was a standard night out for Wilson (Tom Hanks), whose tireless, nonpartisan research into the bottle and the boudoir stood him in good stead for the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee on which he sat. Early in the film, we see him swivel around in his hot tub to catch a Dan Rather report on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. It’s a neat image—too neat, perhaps, verging on the flip—for the two tones of Wilson’s personality, presented by Nichols and Sorkin as a sly response to our current political leadership. Instead of blameless puritans who drop the ball when required to act, we find, in Wilson, the reckless gadabout who gets things done. That’s the idea, at any rate. What Nichols has made is not a romantic comedy set in the political world; it’s a vision—hopelessly unrealistic, but lit with hopeful fun—of politics itself as a game of comic romance.

Wilson is approached by Joanne Herring (Julia Roberts), a pro-Pakistani Texan hostess (how many of those do you know?), with millions to burn. “I’m a liberal,” he tells her. “Not where it counts,” she replies. An unusual combination of bombshell and firebrand, she seduces Charlie—never an arduous task—into visiting the refugee camps on the Pakistan border, to which the embattled Afghans have fled. He has already ramped up the American contribution to the Afghan cause from five million dollars to a princely ten. By the end of the movie, it has risen to a billion. From here on, Wilson is a sinner with a cause and a sidekick: a bullish C.I.A. agent by the name of Gust Avrakotos (Philip Seymour Hoffman), with a dipping gut, a pair of smoked spectacles, and a mustache that you could trim only with a weed whacker. The two of them get along famously: “You’re an awfully easy man to like, Congressman,” Avrakotos says over the phone.

Nichols has a problem here, in that, ever since Hoffman slid over the hood of a car in “The Talented Mr. Ripley,” he has developed a habit of bursting into well-behaved movies and taking them hostage. That’s not to call him a grandstander; he isn’t like Anthony Quinn, say, munching the scenery and bellowing other actors off the soundstage. Hoffman’s first scene, in the new film, is a shouting match with his boss at the agency, except that he doesn’t shout. The words just stream lethally out of him, in his clipped baritone, and within seconds we have our man—not that we will ever know him, for the guy is a spook, but we feel the indubitable brunt of his presence. He’s just there, fully formed and utterly convincing, like a clerk or a cavalryman in a Russian novel, and, as he plants himself foursquare in Wilson’s office, hands in pockets, you find yourself laughing at the solid rush of truth. Even a pro like Hanks, rooted in congeniality, is forced to raise his game.

That office scene is, by some distance, the most enjoyable thing in the picture. For one thing, it’s a dovetail: Wilson is snared in a sex-and-drugs scandal, and he’s trying to limit the damage with the help of his female assistants (whom he addresses en masse as “jailbait”), while simultaneously questioning Avrakotos about covert military aid. Doors open and shut, blondes rotate with redheads, and somehow, in the midst of the farce, plans are set in train that will eventually lead to the withdrawal of the Soviets from Afghanistan. If the notion of war being sparked by a character clash is purest Nichols, then war as war—as cruelty and privation—is another country, and, as he showed in “Catch-22,” back in 1970, it leaves him cold and panicked. The glimpses of actual combat in “Charlie Wilson’s War,” with gun-turret shots of Afghan villages being strafed, are a joke: not black comedy but random stabs at an action movie, whipped along with upbeat music, from an intimist director who is far happier finding dirty laughs in a closed room. The title of Nichols’s last film, “Closer,” could stand for his whole career, and to watch a couple of charmers like Hanks and Julia Roberts play postcoital patty-cake with their schedules and schemes is a civilizing joy, even if the actual coitus is kind of hard to imagine. Make love, then war: it’s a provoking combination, and few could have foretold what would finally emerge from Charlie Wilson’s war, with its triumphant Afghan tribes and, among them, a battle-schooled bin Laden. “Let’s see,” Avrakotos says repeatedly. There is something in Hanks’s quizzical face, in the movie’s final frame, that hints at unintended troubles still to come.

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http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2007/12/24/071224crci_cinema_lane/
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:16 PM
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1. Joanne King Herring....
Man, I used to lust after her.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:49 PM
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9. She used to have a noontime TV talk show in Houston.
I believe it was on Channel 11, CBS.

Her family started out with the King Drive-In Theater on Loop 610 South, but I don't know what else they did for money.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:21 PM
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15. Money? She married it.
Remember when her about-to-be-divorced-from sleepwalked his way out onto the roof, fell off and died?

She then married Bob Herring, head of Houston Natural Gas.

She and I served on several of the same committes for the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.

I remember being in the back of my Father-in-Law's limo and doing fine white lines with her and Shara Fryer (remember her from ch. 11?).

Damn, those were some crazy years.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:21 PM
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2. Nichols and Sorkin? Why didn't they say so in the first place?
What a match.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:22 PM
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4. Indeed!
:thumbsup: And let us not forget Tom Hanks!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:43 PM
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7. Yeah, he's all over the place. But Nichols and Sorkin????
How often? I mean, ever?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:22 PM
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3. Good Lord, I had no idea that this Charlie Wilson was one who lived on my street in Annandale, VA in
1976! I remember the guy. He had very skinny, long legs, a fast talking, blustery Texan who was full of it. Now I have to go see this movie. Does anybody know where Charlie Wilson is now?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:34 PM
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5. It wasn't Charlie Wilson's war. Ever hear of Z-big ?
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 08:41 PM by EVDebs
"1979 saw two major strategically important events: the overthrow of U.S. ally the Shah of Iran, and the invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR. The Iranian Revolution precipitated the Iran hostage crisis, which would last for the rest of Carter's presidency. Brzezinski anticipated (some have claimed <13> he even engineered) the Soviet invasion, and, with the support of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the PRC, he created a strategy to counter the Soviet advance. See below under "Major Policies - Afghanistan."

Using this atmosphere of insecurity, Brzezinski led the U.S. toward a new arms buildup and the development of the Rapid Deployment Forces—policies that are both more generally associated with Reagan now. In 1980, Brzezinski planned Operation Eagle Claw, which was meant to free the hostages in Iran using the newly created Delta Force and other Special Forces units. The mission was a failure and led to Secretary Vance's resignation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Weren't we told that the CIA was going to do a pr offensive with Hollywood's help ? We've already got '24' and 'The Unit' and 'NCIS' so why not go for broke and really ignore history altogether and make it look like it was all the work of one congressman from TX, huh ?

""According to the author of the newly released Charlie Wilson's War, the exception to CIA incompetence was the arming between 1979 and 1988 of thousands of Afghan moujahedeen ("freedom fighters"). The agency flooded Afghanistan with an astonishing array of extremely dangerous weapons and "unapologetically mov to equip and train cadres of high tech holy warriors in the art of waging a war of urban terror against a modern superpower," in this case, the USSR.

The author of this glowing account, George Crile, is a veteran producer for the CBS television news show "60 Minutes" and an exuberant Tom Clancy-type enthusiast for the Afghan caper. He argues that the U.S. clandestine involvement in Afghanistan was "the largest and most successful CIA operation in history" and "the one morally unambiguous crusade of our time." He adds that "there was nothing so romantic and exciting as this war against the Evil Empire." Crile's sole measure of success is the number of Soviet soldiers killed (about 15,000), which undermined Soviet morale and contributed to the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the period from 1989 to 1991. That's the successful part.

However, he never mentions that the "tens of thousands of fanatical Muslim fundamentalists" the CIA armed are some of the same people who in 1996 killed 19 American airmen at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia; bombed our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998; blew a hole in the side of the U.S. destroyer Cole in Aden harbor in 2000; and on Sept. 11, 2001, flew hijacked airliners into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Today, the world awaits what is almost certain to happen soon at some airport -- a terrorist firing a U.S. Stinger low-level surface-to-air missile (manufactured at one time by General Dynamics in Rancho Cucamonga) into an American jumbo jet. The CIA supplied thousands of them to the moujahedeen and trained them to be experts in their use. If the CIA's activities in Afghanistan are a "success story," then Enron should be considered a model of corporate behavior.""


The Largest Covert Operation in CIA History
By Chalmers Johnson
http://hnn.us/articles/1491.html

Yep, just another example of CIA incompetence when all is said and done.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:38 PM
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6. It sounds as confused and dishonest on policy, as West Wing was.
I've never forgiven Soares for that WW episode in which he portrayed anti-globalist demonstrators as bickering, loutish troublemakers who don't really deserve "free speech." I've never seen a piece of vicious global corporate predator disinformation so skillfully done. He's a more than skillful writer--he's a brilliant writer. And I can make that judgement quite apart from his sneaky fascism and screwy anti-progressive ironies. I will say this, though--it was his least successful WW episode, because he could not really disguise his hatred of the Seattle protesters who put Bill Clinton to shame, by understanding, early on, what a traitorous and ruinous policy "free trade" really is.

I was one of the those protesters, and I can vouch for the FACT that those 50,000 people were neither unsure of what we wanted, and bickering amongst ourselves on multiple, conflicting issues, nor loutish nor disunified--as Soares portrays us. He simply picks up the corporate slander against that protest and repeats it. He furthermore manipulates the TV audience by placing all sympathy in the episode on the side of a nice, blue collar police lady--as if to say that the Seattle protesters "got what we deserved" from the Darth Vader thugs who were unleashed upon us. That WW episode was a sickening lie--not a mistake--a deliberate, highly manipulative, conscious, skillful work of disinformation.

West Wing is full of subtle political, pro-corporate, pro-war propaganda, but usually Soares' propaganda remains beneath the surface of the story, and it is so well acted and produced, that I, at least, wanted to put my political conscience to one side, and enjoy the entertainment, which I mostly did. The "protester" episode woke me up. But I was continually aware, in any case, of the BLACK HOLE into which Soares pours the influence of global corporate predators on the White House, and especially on the Clinton White House (which WW is a stand-in for). It is the thing MOST characteristic of the Clinton regime, and I don't think it makes a single appearance, as an issue, in the entire series--except to slander those who opposed it.

RE: this new film, to treat the matter of Afghanistan as a movie star romp around Congressional war profiteering is some kind of intellectual sin--that I don't even know a name for. The cultural crime alone, of having American power players and fun jet-setters the center of the universe--given the additional horror that is about to be unleashed on hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis--and Americans--as a consequence of that fatally wrong policy of proxy war with the Soviet Union, using Al Qaeda (and, indeed, funding and creating Al Qaeda for that purpose)--staggers the mind.

The communist government of Afghanistan was the most progressive government--and in fact the only progressive government--they have ever had. Education and women's rights were among its highest priorities. But even if you don't agree with that assessment, this disastrous U.S. policy, and the tremendous and unnecessary carnage that it caused, and, above all, what it LED TO, without question are singularly responsible for the end of the rule of law in the United States, and were contrived by the Bush Cartel for that purpose.

I haven't seen the movie yet--and I can sometimes forgive writers' political or social prejudices, if they tell a good enough story, or if the artistic execution of a story in film is exceptional (acting, direction, etc.). I also rarely say things like, "Well, that's one movie I'll never rent." I usually give artists a chance, if there is any hope that it might be worth it. But I have to say I'm debating boycotting this film. Unfortunately, the New Yorker is all too good at writing about films in such a way that you feel you have already seen them. (I generally don't read their reviews ahead of time for that reason.) And this looks like a film that would simply disgust me no end, with its covert cultural and political brainwashing.

So maybe I'll never know if the movie is as described by this review. Or maybe ten years from now, I'll be able to watch it without thinking of Iraqi and Afghani babies being blown to bits, and without the screams of the tortured at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib visiting my imagination.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:44 PM
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8. Who is Soares?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:14 AM
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18. Sorry, I meant Sorkin! My bad! I was in a hurry. nt
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:23 PM
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19. Sorkin....and CIA/Hollywood connections ?
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:23 PM by EVDebs
Aaron Sorkin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Sorkin

"Following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the federal government has shown a renewed interest in the talents of show business.

President Bush sent his senior adviser Karl Rove to Los Angeles last month to meet with entertainment leaders and to discuss ways TV and movies could encourage volunteerism and offer support for American troops.

Screenwriters and directors such as David Fincher ("Fight Club") and Spike Jonze ("Being John Malkovich") also have brainstormed with Pentagon officials about creative ways to prevent future terrorist attacks.

Recently, the CIA even started a more overt presence in the entertainment industry--supplying technical advice for some projects, such as CBS' "The Agency" and the upcoming Ben Affleck thriller "The Sum of All Fears."

Mission impossible? Not for Hollywood, CIA
Chicago Sun-Times, Dec 3, 2001 by Anthony Breznican
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20011203/ai_n13932486
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:55 PM
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10. i don't think that i could stomach this movie...
and i love philip seymour hoffman.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:56 PM
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11. i do too but Julia Roberts, no thanks.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:09 PM
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13. Does she have that totally annoying laugh in this film?
If so, I won't order it from Netflix. I am reading the book at this time.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:19 PM
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14. i think it's in all the films she's in, she has written into her contract.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:09 PM
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16. I don't think it's even been released yet. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:09 PM
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17. He's 'hot' because he's so good. nt
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:08 PM
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12. Another film from the incredibly overrated Mike Nichols...
a man who has more hair than talent
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:27 AM
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20. Melissa Roddy on Tom Hank's whopper lie on CIA's behalf....
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