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napi21
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:20 PM Original message |
Muslim woman denied employment because she insisted on wearing |
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noamnety
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't see why it would be a problem in a southern family place. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. Thank god you showed up |
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Karenina
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Fri Dec-21-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #140 |
162. It would be interesting if just 2 or 3 people |
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brentspeak
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Fri Dec-21-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #139 |
168. What the hell would you know about the people of Georgia? |
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Karenina
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Fri Dec-21-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #168 |
169. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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LeftyMom
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Fri Dec-21-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
165. Just as long as it HOT PINK like that woman in the documentary on American Muslims in Texas. |
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. If they have a dress code, I think they have a right. If a nun took a job, she'd |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Most nuns do not wear a habit. |
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bean fidhleir
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. I think you're mistaken |
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undeterred
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #76 |
92. Most nuns who are taking jobs out in society |
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Dorian Gray
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #92 |
104. The nuns |
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Wizard777
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
99. So we will defend the US Constitution from every enitity on this earth except a Corporation? |
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Ino
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think she should apply at Hooters next. (n/t) |
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AlCzervik
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. i see plenty of women wearing them here and if she was working in the kitchen |
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Fed_Up_Grammy
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. I have no problem with dress codes. |
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Canuckistanian
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Both points above are valid |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. She applied as a cashier so "ungainly" is moot. |
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jmm
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. I've seen a woman a Target in a red hijab |
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noamnety
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That thought crossed my mind, too. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Colors would depend on the country of origin... |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. not country |
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madeline_con
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Fri Dec-21-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
173. There are countries who profess to be Muslim countries. |
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IronLionZion
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
122. You can't go shopping in Minneapolis, without being served by |
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geardaddy
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Fri Dec-21-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
161. Yep. |
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
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AspenRose
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Thank you |
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brentspeak
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Fri Dec-21-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
170. Self-righteous much? |
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razors edge
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let me know if she wins, |
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Clark2008
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
93. LOL! |
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razors edge
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
137. Sure. |
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Donnachaidh
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Refusing her a job because of a head scarf? |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
89. Hi Donnachaidh! I think your right about banning the cross. |
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Donnachaidh
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. I have Arabic friends here and the women catch grief ALL the time |
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sandnsea
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. First Amendment right |
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leftynyc
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
82. First amendment only concerns government |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
109. A private business has a right to instill a dress code |
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LiberalFighter
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. She's not paid to practice her religion at work. |
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EFerrari
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:38 PM Original message |
Wtf? |
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Chovexani
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "Reasonable accomodation" |
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madeline_con
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. "I'm also a bit turned off by that atire ..." |
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napi21
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I looked too. It was aired on TV46 in Atlanta. BTW, I'm not trying to persecute anyone! |
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Chovexani
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. ... |
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NMMNG
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Let that be a lesson to you |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. I can't believe this shit |
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napi21
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. I never daid anyone wasn't American. I would feel the same way |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. I'm as atheist as you get |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Nice try, kemosabe |
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napi21
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Hmmm..Klan? I'm looking at this as if I owned the restaurant. |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You're a marvel of assimiliation, it would seem. |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
51. hey hey, that's not fair. |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Oh I see! |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. The Epcot part and small world only. |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I resort to mockery because if I didn't |
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Quantess
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
121. Aside question: Is the phrase "people of color" still viable? |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
132. It's still certainly viable among WOC activists and their blogs |
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Quantess
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Mostly I was wondering if it was okay or not. |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
138. I use it all the time |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. I keep spelling it out on DU |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I used to think it was really well known |
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AlCzervik
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. why is that weird to you? I see many women wearing hijabs, my sister's mil |
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. That's funny |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Maybe the OP means this upstanding southern family |
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blogslut
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Don't make me cry |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Camelot has fallen |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. you're making it worse |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. OMG. I swear, I think I met you at a Native American conference at the University |
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MichaelHarris
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. When I go to Red Lobster |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. At Long John Silver's |
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MichaelHarris
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:37 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. hahahahaha |
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EnviroBat
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
105. Or at least have crabs... |
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. how come muslim men never wear a hajib for "modesty's sake? nt |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. for the same reason western men don't wear bikini tops? |
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madeline_con
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Fri Dec-21-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
172. Actually, men of the Taureg tribe of Africa wear veils. n/t |
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TahitiNut
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. This is written up in the Atlanta Business Chronicle. The EEOC filed the suit. |
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Chovexani
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Where oh where is the Alliance Defense Fund? |
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napi21
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Thanks for finding the link. I was getting the feeling some thought |
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EFerrari
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I don't think stuff like this can be made up. n/t |
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. If it's a cashier's job, then it's fine |
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EFerrari
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. What is the difference between wearing hijab out of modesty |
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TahitiNut
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. If Hooters has waitresses with big boobs, what restaurant has waitresses with one leg?? |
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Chovexani
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Get thee to hell, TN |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
125. (grin) Well .. since the devil made me do it ... |
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AlCzervik
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. and they're all named Eileen. |
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EFerrari
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Wed Dec-19-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. . . . |
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
114. LMAO!! |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
34. My employer decided to require "awe and reverence for God" as a condition for employment |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. LOL, I'd have asked which one |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. EXACTLY! I have many friends with all kinds of belief systems. We ALL deserve the same respect. |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Title VII is tricky |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Good point. How about "Adoption saves a beating heart"? |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. apples and oranges |
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Hoof Hearted
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. The hijab is not required in Islam. It is an expression of faith. |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. that depends on one's interpretation |
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
128. Of course I know that, but I chose to use the terminology of the OP, for the sake of clarity. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
120. What about a cross, a crucifix, or a star of David? |
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Warpy
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
40. The hijab is a simple head scarf |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. lots of women working where I live |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. When I see white guys in suits and ties I run for the hills |
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Warpy
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Thu Dec-20-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
112. Yeah, ties are weirder |
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depakid
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
50. Turn the tables- and consider that this is Georgia |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
65. huh? |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:56 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I think they were pointing out hypocrisy |
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brentspeak
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Fri Dec-21-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
166. What does that have to do with anything? |
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MattSh
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
54. Even if they said such a thing, |
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KitchenWitch
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
60. Good for her, she SHOULD sue! |
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NuttyFluffers
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
62. dude, she's wearing a "hair net" willingly at all times! hire her! |
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
72. If her religion requires a scarf as sign of modesty, how does digging for millions agree with that?? |
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Djinn
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. seriously if an employer |
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Smith_3
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #75 |
98. Me likes anarcho syndicalism |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Hmm, I think you took a wrong turn somewhere. |
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Smith_3
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I'm a living paradox |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 06:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Okay! |
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harun
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. How do you know they have an actual dress code, in writing, |
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Smith_3
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. I don't... |
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harun
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #97 |
110. Turkey takes it too far |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. The (for profit) technical school I work for has a dress code |
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tom_paine
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Thu Dec-20-07 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
73. Perhaps a pointy white hood would be more welcome there. |
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Thothmes
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Thu Dec-20-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. So did the Senator from West Virginia |
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tom_paine
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
129. Oh Lordy, another Bushie Talking Point! |
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Thothmes
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Thu Dec-20-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #129 |
141. Talking Point |
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tom_paine
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Fri Dec-21-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #141 |
149. Oh, I have considered it, all right. |
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Thothmes
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Fri Dec-21-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Fair Enough |
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JustABozoOnThisBus
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Thu Dec-20-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
80. Suing for "millions" may be a bit much |
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leftynyc
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. If the restaurant has an established dress |
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JustABozoOnThisBus
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. That's probably correct ... |
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. You would not see a woman in a hijab working at Hooters |
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JustABozoOnThisBus
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #90 |
108. I know that, sheesh |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Fri Dec-21-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
160. hooters can claim business necessity for clothing, whereas a cashier at a restaurant |
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EFerrari
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
118. It depends what your goal is. Suing for milliions gets press. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
83. I'm sure how I feel about this: |
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Le Taz Hot
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Thu Dec-20-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
86. I think I've lived in California too long |
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slackmaster
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #86 |
102. Same in conservative San Diego |
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gollygee
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
106. I live in Michigan and it seems odd to me that anyone would even think twice about it too |
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JHB
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
87. Can't find anything about their dress code, but did find their employment policy: |
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NashVegas
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Discrimination of Religion vs Against the Expression of Religion on Private Property |
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
94. I'm guessing that if I wanted a job in Saudi I wouldn't be allowed to wear a cowboy hat and chaps. |
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JHB
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Sure you could, even if you are a woman... |
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AspenRose
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #94 |
154. I didn't know a cowboy hat was an expression of religion. |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
157. saudi is a theocracy. do you want america to be a theocracy? |
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gollygee
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
100. What possible difference could it make if she wears a hijab? |
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Other than the possibility it might get stuck in a cash register drawer |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #100 |
133. Maybe she's concerned that she's not getting |
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
101. How many pieces of flair does that place require its employees to wear? |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
107. I think a private company has a right to dictate a dress code |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. And I'm going to sound like a broken record again |
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BoneDaddy
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #116 |
142. Thanks for the insults |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
158. seconded. |
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LanternWaste
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
111. the cashier is not responsible for the ignorance of the general public. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
115. well, I'd like to wear |
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Chovexani
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Unless you're a minister in the Church of Harley-Davidson |
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Thu Dec-20-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. well, my bandanna |
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EFerrari
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. That must be a really small office up in that tower. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. ?? |
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EFerrari
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. I just read your profile. n/t |
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. oh, ok |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #115 |
156. personal taste is not protected by law. religion is. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
130. I have some questions. |
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Thu Dec-20-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
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Fri Dec-21-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
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SweetThingy
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Thu Dec-20-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
135. Having a dress code is not religious discrimination |
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Raine
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Thu Dec-20-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. I agree |
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Would you say the same if they said no crosses at work? n/t |
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SweetThingy
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Thu Dec-20-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. sure |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Fri Dec-21-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #135 |
152. you are wrong. if a dress code is shown to have adverse affect w.out business necessity |
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LanternWaste
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Fri Dec-21-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #135 |
159. However, since we are a thinking people... |
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SweetThingy
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Fri Dec-21-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. Thinking a little deeper |
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
144. People, this is OVERT religious discrimination. |
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noamnety
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Thu Dec-20-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Nonono, this is seriously a concern for white folks. |
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Fri Dec-21-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #147 |
153. you know what i love, if we had a discussion about islam, someone would be sure |
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Fri Dec-21-07 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
150. Is it required? |
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Fri Dec-21-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
155. They deny the woman the right to wear a religious symbol |
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SweetThingy
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Fri Dec-21-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
164. No one is denying her the right to wear a religious symbol |
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Fri Dec-21-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #164 |
171. Then they need to ban ALL religious symbols |
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Fri Dec-21-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. who is "they" |
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Sat Dec-22-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Maybe they haven't banned "YOUR" religious symbol |
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Sat Dec-22-07 04:06 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Who is they? |
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Fri Dec-21-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
174. Better headline: |
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