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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:16 AM
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A little insight into the Lakota Issue
This is from an acquaintance of mine, an educator andd former BIA employee who has worked with several tribes in the past.

I posted the story to my local pagan list and he responded with this. I asked his permission and he said I could cross-post his reply to DU.


Here's what he has to say about the matter:



This is a very interesting article, http://nz.news.yahoo.com/071220/8/3db9.html , and one that should probably startle, supprize, and confuse most Americans who know nothing of the background behind the story. So here is a little of it, just to spark your interest.

The Lakota (Brother) Peoples were a confederacy of twelve tribes who inhabited the high plains from Western Wisconsin to Eastern Montana, and from South Dakota north into Saskatchewan and Manitoba. The Lakota spoke a Siouxan language and, along with many other tribes who were not Lakota, they were referred to by the French Canadian fur trappers who were the first Europeans to meet them, as the "Sioux."

In 1869 several of the Lakota tribes met with the United States representatives to negotiate a treaty at Fort Laramie, which the U.S promptly began violating. The treaty set up what was called "The Great Sioux Reservation," which, at that time, included most of North and South Dakota and part of eastern Montana. Other Lakota tribes living farther east, who were collectively called the "Dakota," had already signed treaties on their own with the U.S. several years before. In that treaty the U.S. agreed to respect the territorial soverginty of the western Sioux Nations. But when the government needed to put the Northern Pacific Railroad through the Great Sioux Reservation, and the deal with the railroad was a gift of every other section (a square mile) of land in a checkerboard pattern fifteen miles deep both north and south of the tracks, from St. Paul Minisota to the Puget Sound, which the railroad could use for lumbering, mining, and sale to settlers, then the government needed to take back a big hunk of the reservation. A plot was worked out that involved General Philip Sheridan and Colonel George Custer, and several other leading officials in the Territory to fake a gold discovery in the Black Hills, which were the most sacred lands on earth to the Lakota, the sacred Paha Sapa, the center of the world. A supposedly innocent survey party arranged the gold discovery using a few lumps of quartz, a hand-full of placer gold dust from Montana, and a shot gun, and when they returned to civilization with the evidence they deliberately let everyone know about it in the newspapers, thus starting a massive gold rush. The Lakota, of course, defended their lands against the invading gold hunters, and the U.S. Army, of course, was called in to protect the gold seakers, not the Indians. This started the war that culminated in the Little Bighorn massacre, and the flight of about half of the Sioux peoples into Canada that winter. The United States then terminated the Great Sioux Reservation and replaced it with a double hand-full of very small reservations scattered across the territory on some of the worst land the government could find.

Today, the various Sioux Reservations make up a collection of some of the poorest communities in America, literally third-world islands in the middle of the wealthiest nation on earth. By every measurement the U.S. Government uses to measure poverty, the Sioux Reservations are the poorest of the poor anywhere in the country. An Indian comedian once spoke of them as being "Behind God's back."

The problem for the Sioux, of course, is that they are as far away from any jobs or industry as you can possibly get in America. The problem for the U.S. is that the letters between General Sheridan and his other conspirators still exist, and they form a body of evidence proving the government's perfidy and bad faith. In the 1970's the Sioux nations filed suit in Federal Courts seeking the return of the sacred Black Hills to the Sioux peoples, something that is actually possible, as most of the hills are either national monument land, like Mt. Rushmore, or bureau of Land Management lands, and in federal ownership. But the courts, while they were forced to find for the tribes, given the solid historical evidence presented, they did not agree to order the return of the hills, but instead offered a three billion dollar land settlement, which all of the tribes, the poorest indians in America, have refused to accept for the last thirty years.

Now, to shift focus a little, back east in 1971 the Iroquois Six Nations of the U.S. and Canada, my people, sent delegats of the six tribes and fourteen reservations in two countries to the Wold Court at the Hague, where they filled suit against the U.S. and Canada, claiming that all nineteen of their treaties with the U.S. government and the British Crown had been violated, and that nothing specific in any of those treaties, all dating back to the eighteenth century, actually ceeded Iroquois soverignty to either nation. After six months of review, the World Court, citing international laws established in treaties to which both the U.S., Britain, and Canada are signatories, the Six Nations indeed never ceded their soverginty to anyone else, and the traditional government of the SIX Nations never actually ceased to exist and to conduct tribal and national business, and therefore we were still, by the standards of modern international law, a soverign peoples.

After that decision the Six Nations then filed an application for membership in the United nations (this is the honest-to-gods truth). They also began issuing their own passports and other official documents. Because of the complexities of worl politics at that time, a majority of the member nations in the U.N. actually approved the application, probably to irk the U.S., but both the U.S. and Canda vetoed it from the security Council. In a partial override of that veto, 80% of the member nations voted the Six Nations a "seat without voice" in the General Assembly, and Iroquois representatives have been sent to the U.N. every year since, and so far, seventy-three nations have recognized the Iroquois passports. The greatest achievement of this largely unheard revolution was the establishment in the 1980's of the U.N. Office of Indiginous Peoples Affairs, headed by the delegats of the Six Nations and of one hundred and fourty-nine other indiginous peoples from around the world.

Now of course, real sovereignty is a lot more than just issuing passports. An Indian nation can never be truly soverign, for example, as long as its citizens are still taking wellfare, and medical services, or any other services from the "foreign" government that has claimed their soverignty for the last two hundred years. Real sovere ignty is the day-to-day exercise of control over your own present and future.

For the past thirty years, the people of the little Onondaga reservation in central New York have done just that, they have refused to take one penny of federal handouts. Sadly, the other Iroquois reservations of New York have not yet had that much resolve, though they have all been working towards real economic and political independance. A similar "drop-out" movement has also dominated the politic and economics of the Six Nations Reserve of the Grand River in Ontario, and three other Iroquois reservations in Ontario and Quebec for decades.

Now back to the Lakota, inspired by a U.N. action, this is exactly what the Sioux reservations are contemplating here, the gradually increasing refusal of any and all state and federal services from the United States, and a campaign of acting like a "soverign" peoples in the world once again. No guns and no shootings like the tragic second battle of Wounded Knee back in the 1970's that first brought Russel Means into public recognition, at least no one hopes so, but rather a classic mobilization of peacful un-cooperation (Like Gandi's Civil Disobedience Movement in India) and exercises of economic and political independance. Good luck to them.

Courtesy of:

Chuck L, Ohstowe hajuks

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:34 AM
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1. Thank you. Very informative.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:06 AM
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2. Thanks to you and your friend for this info.
I knew about the gold rush, but not that it had been triggered by a fraudulent "discovery"! The rest of the story is all too familiar -- treaties are only good until the land turns out to be desirable after all, for whatever reason. Gold, oil, uranium, whatever.

BTW, the first time I ever learned that there was such a thing as an Iriquois passport, I read it on DU.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:12 AM
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3. Yeah...I didn't know any of that.
Chuck's a great source for info about this sort of stuff.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:23 AM
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4. To the Greatest Page with this, forthwith
:kick:

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:51 AM
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5. May we accurately define the derogatory/racist term "Sioux".
For those who respect and understand the true community of the Lakota residents and the world and property with which they reside, they realize the racist, derogatory term that was created with which to label them in an attempt to separate and divide.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:15 AM
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10. Indeed. Call them by their proper name Lakota (friend) rather than snake. nt
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:01 AM
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6. K & R. Thank you for this post. nt.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:11 AM
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7. k&r and a question regarding "Lakota"
Having been out of the loop for a bit, does "Lakota" mean just Lakota, or Lakota/Dakota/Nakota (all of them)? Are these considered dialects now, having all the groups merged together into 1 greater Lakota Nation? Thank you.

For anyone wondering what I'm talking about, go here: http://www.hanksville.org/daniel/lakota/Lakota.html
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:12 AM
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9. The initial story might have some more info
as to which Lakota they're talking about. I'm thinking they still have some variation.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:17 AM
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11. I read it and can't tell, hoping someone might know, even in general.
thanks
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:11 AM
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8. K&R
Good Luck.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:20 AM
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12. The town where our HQ is in Germany has a sister town in South Dakota
One day, an activist Lakota named Milo Yellow Hair was here, and
spoke (in English and Lakota) to a town meeting, and I volunteered
to be their "instant translator"--a profession for which I gained
a LOT of respect--not an easy thing to do ont he spur of the moment!

I learned more about the Lakota from an hour with Milo* than I did in
all the American history courses I ever took in high school. Something
is fundamentally wrong with that.

This is how the Germans spelled it. It was pronounced "MEE-loh"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:42 AM
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13. That's really good thing to do, Sister City. Thanks for that.
former flatlander myself.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:00 AM
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18. Most German towns have these partnerships with towns of similar size elsewhere
I have no idea why this place in the Rheinland got together with some tiny
place in South Dakota, but it did. There are also sister cities in Russia, Finland,
France, England, and elsewhere. There is a small bridge that goes over some train
tracks called the "Süd-Dakota Brücke (South Dakota Bridge)." We once took in some girl
from this town when they had a bunch of students on a trip here, and couldn't find
rooms for them all. My wife and I rarely know 2 days in advance when both of us will
be here, but this one time we did, and so volunteered the house.

It was pretty funny, these laid-back small town Germans gawking at this big Lakota
guy with long black hair flowing down to his waist! But they listened spellbound at
what he had to say (well, what I translated into German, anyway), I gotta give them
credit. We set up a primitive kind of phone/radio link to a Lakota-language radio station
in South Dakota, and he was talking away with his pals back in SD in Lakota. I can
speak a few languages, but that isn't one of them! He was very understanding when I
stopped translating until he switched back into English.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:37 PM
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26. We hear how Japanese grade school history texts are bad, but not our own.
The overwhelming evidence that the United States has always been a brutal and racist empire doesn't appear in our high school history texts.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:53 AM
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14. Does your friend know where we can sign up to join the cause?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:59 AM
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15. Not that I've heard.
Not that he's shared.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:05 AM
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16. If you get a link or address please drop us a line.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:01 AM
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17. Thank you for that background
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:58 AM
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19. K&R n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:59 AM
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20. K & R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:29 AM
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21. Thank you. K and r.
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 08:31 AM by SpiralHawk
Here's a link to a page about the Jay Treaty, a document that remains of import and consequence:

http://www.8thfire.net/Day_14.html

"The Algonquins, who beaded the belts long ago at the time the border was being negotiated, understood that they were crafting the belt to serve as their tangible record of the agreement, the same agreement that the US and Canada would keep with marks of ink upon a thin sheet of paper.

"They also understood, as they were informed by treaty negotiators and as recorded in the wampum belt, that the boundary between the newly formed nations of Canada and the United States was only temporary. It would someday dissolve. That's why the Jay Treaty Belt –- which to Natives symbolizes the spiritual concept of borderlessness -- was made of glass beads and not wampum.

In the 1990s Grandfather Commanda had a vision confirming this. The vision showed him that the artificial line drawn on the paper map that separates the corporate nation states of Canada and the US will one day be gone -- and that Turtle Island (North America) will again be whole, one land. "Someday,” Grandfather said, “there will be no border between the US and Canada."
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:39 AM
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22. Hear Hear!! Don't forget the Seminoles -- Never Even Lost A Battle to the US
The US "unilaterally withdrew" behind the borders of Everglades Naional
Park. The Seminoles never even signed a peace treaty, to my knowledge.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:42 AM
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23. great post. I hope it doesnt turn out like Wounded Knee..again
If so, I'll be there putting my ass on the line right next to all of my AIM brothers and sisters.

Mitakuya Oyasin
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FraDon Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:05 AM
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24. Another milestone in the sordid history of righteous black-ops . . .
gone so wrong (except for the obvious benefit of the perps, for whom it seems to just keep on working). Maybe that's why most call it cultural genocide?

I'll see your bogus gold rush, and raise you some small-pox blankets, and the Archduke Ferdinand.

••• Thanks for passing along this teaching.
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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:53 PM
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41. Are you familiar with the Cobell lawsuit?
The Department of Interior is, right now, still actively working on finding ways to weasel out of guarantees made to various tribes.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:32 PM
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25. Thank you for the information, and best wishes to them.
I think this is a great thing.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:38 PM
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27. K&R n/t
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:10 PM
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28. Me too, and
Not that it helps anything, but may I just apologize on behalf of any & all of my ancestors who had any part in this.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:36 PM
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29. Kicking
To digest later, thanks Mythsaje.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:11 PM
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30. And truly, from the bottom of my heart, I wish them all the success in the
world. The way the American Indians have been treated and are still being treated is a crime and a sin. If we lived more like they did/do instead of the other way around this country would be in a hell of a lot better shape than it is.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:58 PM
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31. I put up a solar array for the Lakota 15 years ago
They were putting together a new project that was all off the grid, with a library and other things to help people get out of the rut they were in. I few from CA to SD and installed a solar electric system on the building. They were very nice to me. For a week they fed me and I got to have a real sweat with a medicine man. I have lost touch with them. I hope the system is still working. This makes me want to try to track them down. thanks.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:42 AM
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43. You should...
Make certain everything's still functional, and, if it isn't, help get it working again. I'm sure they'd appreciate the offer.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:59 PM
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32. Got Netflix?
Rent "Incident at Oglalla" ca. 1991
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:23 PM
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33. Thanks for posting this
I knew a bit about the Six Nations--namely that they had allowed Greenpeace to use their flag after Canada, under pressure from Japan, refused to let Greenpeace fly their flag.

May the Six Nations and the Lakota people regain their sovereignty. I salute their courage.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:33 PM
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34. THANK you.
I feel this is very important for us, both politically and spiritually.
As a decendant of a full-blooded Cherokee, (great grandmother); I feel this....just a bit.
Justice to the tribes!!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:02 PM
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35. Great Post! Bravo! K and R
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:25 PM
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36. K&R n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:01 PM
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37. k&r
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:05 PM
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38. K&R for the people. n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:30 PM
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39. recommend
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:44 PM
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40. thank you.
nt
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ScooterFibby Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:11 AM
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42. Excellent background
Wonderful information, and most appreciated.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:53 AM
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44. thank you for that bit of history.
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Diamond Dave Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 12:53 AM
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45. Thank you. We as citizens of this US of whatever, we owe much.
to many countries and nations. Could we just start here?

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