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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:30 PM Original message |
The Promethian Problem: A Hypothetical - What to Do with "Dangerous Data"? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. You should start thread after thread about it on DU |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Rational, Albeit Lazy, Stone-Throwers... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. lol |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. My Grandfather Used to Say... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
84. Breathtaking in its essential rightness and understatement |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Send It to Bartlett's? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Much, Sir, Would Depend On the Quality Of the Data |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Drop the Pebble... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't know if this speaks directly to your question. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The Uncorked Genie, or the Unbound Pandora |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. There are too many tracks. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. "It's like being in a multi tiered chess game with Spock." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. But, you see what I mean. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. "How very fitting, how very Greek." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Back atcha, Dave, to you and to yours and great good success |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Fortune Favors the Bold... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Except When It Cuts Them Off At the Knees, Sir |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Paralyzing Fear vs. Prudent Caution |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Covering All Bets Of Evens Or Better, Sir.... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Meet Me in Vegas ... Two-Day Winner Buys Final Dinner |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Like a Lie... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Right. But also, it's just not possible any more to shred something |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Even Attempts to Scrub or Remove the Data... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. If so, Is it a Violation of Privacy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. A whistleblower is performing a public service. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's What I Refer to |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Implications for the Public Good |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Bring it, methinks. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. "would we be better off knowing it or not knowing it" |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Air it ALL |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I Personally Cannot Take a Consequences Be Damned... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Consequences Of An Action, Sir, Are Always An Important Comsideration |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I'd Say That's Why This Country of Ours is so Messed Up |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Well, Whistleblowers Routinely Prove That... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Wouldn't Be the Horns... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. I see no ethical problem, unless it is whether one should work to make it public. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. In This Hypothetical... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I don't make ethical judgements based on what political operatives might do. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Not a Political Operative... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Not you, the guys you mention in your argument. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Gotcha! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. I'm just saying that what these hypothetical operatives might do is |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. The Data in This Hypothetical... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yes, no doubt the grateful public will award me a lifetime of free cookies. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. May They Also Have the Decency to Leave You in Peace to Eat Them! n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. Bring it to the private attention of the candidate in question... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Add One More Element to the Hypothetical... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. ah. Then it depends on the data. . . |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Therein Lies the Power of Primary Documents... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. Make up an even worse story and spread it around, thus defusing the bombshell. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Now there's a man who knows politics. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Now There's a Man... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Yeah, but I was talking about the poster I responded to. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Yup, I Was Too... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. He was joking, your average Rove-wannabee would be serious about it. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Yup, That Thin Line between Satire and Operational Imperative... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. In This Hypothetical... |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. Do it already! (Hypothetically) |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Agreed on Many Points |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
34. Is it possible in your scenario |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Yes, As Well As Senior Members... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
72. In the nominal case |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Assume for the Purposes of the Hypothetical that "No Controlling Legal Authority"... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Then we come back to teh initial dilemma |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. If I Had a Time Machine, I'd Visit the ... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
43. People forget that most whistleblowers do not seek the spotlight, but have it thrust upon them... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fire: Benevolent and Malevolent |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. It depends on the probable consequences. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Very True |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
54. Air it early. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. The Greek Chorus ... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Air it earlier. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Clear, Concise, Compelling ... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
73. I am mystified by the disclosure dates of 'after N.H.' or 'no later than 2 days before Iowa'.... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. LOL - I Got a Christmas Wish - BHJ, Mystified! |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
68. Didn't we do this already? Last week? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Going to the Movies ... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Good luck with your dilemma. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
76. This is what I honestly think the right wing does |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. If the Hiding Entity Were Halliburton... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Presuming the data is true, then air it first |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. The Data Is True... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Is it about sex or something else personal and irrelevant, or about |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. The Latter ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Yeah, it would be best to get it out |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Indeed, Airing This Hypothetical Data... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. Air it NOW. n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. To Whom and How Widely? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes. That will do. As long as that embargo expires soon. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I Watch Milk Cartons... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
86. Put it out and watch it be ignored by M$M. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I Suspect Not n/t |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
88. Put the data on youtube. That's the anarchist way of doing it nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. An Anarchist I Am Not n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
96. Is the information brought to light to defend or to attack? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. To Defend What/Whom? Democracy? n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. The candidate. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. The Candidate Who Fails to Serve Democracy ... |
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