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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:07 AM
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Is anybody watching Morning Joe?
want to have a conversation about Tweety, who Im growing to respect more and more through this interview
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:09 AM
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1. "Tweety, who Im growing to respect more and more"
snarf.... which way is the wind blowing?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:11 AM
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2. Its not, hes explaining himself
And hes saying what his issue is. He has a conservative, nationalistic gut, but then he actually thinks, and thats where he gets his liberal beliefs about, like the war, abortion, gay marriage.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:14 AM
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3. or George W's manly package....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:15 AM
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4. That was Kleenex.
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:22 AM
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8. Timbuk 3 "Facts About Cats
Well, rocking Robin said "Oh mama please,
I'm begging you down on bended knees
I wanna go down, wanna jump and shout
Down on the corner where the cats hang out
Down on the corner where the cats hang out."

Her mama said "Rockin, you're making me cry,
But a robin's gotta rock, and a bird's gotta fly
but before you go jumping, go out rocking tonight
It's time that I tell you a few facts of life
It's time that I tell you a few facts of life

"Cats will be cats, and cats will be cruel
Cats can be callous, and cats can be cool
Cats will be cats, remember these words
Cats will be cats, and cats eat birds
Cats will be cats, and cats eat birds

"So Robin, get wise, use good sense,
And better brush up on your self defense
It's a jungle out there, and hunger strikes deep
Better take care, better watch where you sleep
Better take care, better watch where you sleep."

Well, rocking Robin said "Oh mama please,
I'm begging you down on bended knees
I wanna go down, wanna jump and shout
Down on the corner where the cats hang out
Down on the corner where the cats hang out."


Watch your ass around Tweety he is a cat.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:33 AM
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10. "but then he actually thinks"
"but then he actually thinks, and thats where he gets his liberal beliefs..."
... sure makes you wish he would think MORE!

I've been listening and heard that also, but it didn't change my mind about him. He's just too slippery. Whatever he stands up for today is subject to change or further clarification at any point. He started out in the Peace Corps (and was a speech writer for Carter, if I remember correctly). I wish he would return to his roots, and STICK with them.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:17 AM
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5. Chris "Weather Vain" Mathews.
:crazy:


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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:22 AM
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7. An appropriate misspelling.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:20 AM
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6. I think Tweety must have had a Christmas Epiphany. Either that, or
he's been reading the blogs about how much he is scorned and hated. He seemed different, but maybe he took his meds this morning. I thought I was dreaming when I heard him say, in a calm and rational voice, that "the establishment media controls everything". They frame the debate, they line up behind the Establishment Candidate. It was very clear who he was talking about. His comments about Obama were nothing short of, well.. shall I say inspiring? The picture he painted of the world waking up to find Iowa had gone for Obama as a "worldwide event".. an epiphany to the rest of the world that "we are willing to change".

I was not surprised that he mentioned not ONE candidate other than Hillary and Obama. He barely mentioned Edwards and when Shuster tried to explain why he thought Edwards would win Iowa, he fairly dismissed it as something to do with the college kids not voting for Obama and then they needed to be strapped in a chair. There was the bizarro Tweety coming back. All in all, it did seem to me like these particular anchors had possibly done some reassessment of their own culpability in the shaping of the news during their down time. But not enough reassessment. Not enough to give ALL the candidates a fair shot, or any shot at all.

But back to the OP (sorry to ramble)..Tweety was sane this morning, and did explain himself a bit. Perhaps he felt he needed to, he did. I'm at least glad Obama got a really, really good review this morning.. some Optimism from Tweety to the World.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:25 AM
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9. Im glad you watched it because otherwise Id just be laughed at.
But Ill admit that Ive always been a Chris Matthews apologist. MSNBC is a soft spot for me, that I even enjoy watching TUcker.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:34 AM
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11. I'd never laugh at ya, hnmnf :-)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:52 AM
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12. I like Mr. Matthews.
He has a few opinions that I think are very wrong, but overall, he is one of a tiny minority of mainstream journalists who attempts to report the truth. The first page of Joseph Wilson's book makes clear that Mr. Matthews played a positive role in exposing the Plame scandal; Valerie Plame Wilson's book's title does, as well.

Chris Matthews' recent book is a good read. He tells about his campaign for political office in 1974. He believed that the congressman from Philly was too entrenched in the system to be able to represent the needs of those he was supposed to represent. A March 17th headline of The Philadelphia Inquirer read, "4th District Candidate Refuses All Money Gifts":

"The Watergate scandal has filtered down to Philadelphia's 4th Congressional District, with one candidate declaring that he will refuse to accept any financial contributions at all. Chris Matthews, a 28-year-old former aide to consumer advocate Ralph Nader, said Friday that he would run a 'money-free' campaign for the seat held by Rep. Joshua Eilberg, a Democrat.

".... Matthews said he would rely entirely on volunteers to reach voters. Matthews, who was formerly employed as an investigative reporter for Nader's Capitol Hill News Service, blamed the 'whole system of private campaign contributions' for political scandals. 'If we have learned anything from these disclosures,' he said, 'it is that the small group of private interests that contribute the bulk of political campaign finances expect something in return'."
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 09:01 PM
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13. Grab some hot Cocoa and pull up a seat.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:09 PM
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14. No thank you.
I'm not a fan of hot cocoa.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:16 PM
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15. Scotch?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:29 PM
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16. No .....
One cup of coffee in the morning; numerous glasses of water during the day; one cup of tea in the evening. I do enjoy some fruit juices, as well.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:31 PM
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17. Orange Juice?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:42 PM
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18. Grapefruit.
I don't believe that Yoko wrote a book about oranges.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:54 PM
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19. This is WHICH planet?!1

Chris Matthews


From Demopedia
Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.
Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.
"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.
How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.
How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.
"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
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