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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:34 PM
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BIG BROTHER gets an ass- whuppin'
http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/12/burning-british.html
"Motorists Against Detection, the vigilante anti-speed camera group have announced a summer of MADness which will see them target for destruction all speed cameras in the UK. It’s now going to be a period of zero tolerance against all speed cameras, said their campaigns director Capt Gatso. (((A remote descendant of General Ludd, I reckon.)))

"The group claims speed cameras are just money-making machines and they have given the authorities long enough to prove their worth. The first camera to fall in the summer campaign is in south east London on the A2 at the Sun in the Sands roundabout on-slip heading northbound towards the Blackwall Tunnel.

"Capt Gatso, the group's campaigns director, (((he's a multitalented guy))) said: "We have completely pulled it out of the ground, it is now lying flat. You can see some of our handiwork posted on www.speedcam.co.uk.

"He added: In many areas the cameras have not saved one life - the statistics for road deaths haven't gone down. In some areas they have actually gone up - in Essex, for instance, which has a high density of cameras there are more people being killed. We are now planning to target any and all cameras until the Government sees sense and rethinks its road safety policy. Before we had speed cameras we had the safest roads in Europe - since their introduction this is no longer true."
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:37 PM
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1. I can't condone that.
Are these people unable to work within their own local system of government to effect the change they desire? You can't just go around destroying property, public or private.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:40 PM
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2. Especially if it is tea!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:41 PM
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4. I was just thinking of "salt water tea"!
Funny how placid and law abiding most of us have become :evilgrin:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:53 PM
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5. lol... there goes my tea
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 04:53 PM by fascisthunter
all over my table and key board.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:57 PM
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6. Yes, because they're clearly fighting for freedom from
the tyranny of getting caught speeding. :eyes:

Do you think that in a system of government where people elect their own representation they should be able to resolve their problems without violence or property destruction?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:03 PM
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7. How Do You Know That?
Could be about the issue of privacy. I know for me it's about Big Brother spying on me just to fine me for money if I make a mistake. Sounds totalitarian.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:30 PM
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15. Then why not address it a manner that doesn't involve
destroying taxpayer-funded property?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 09:37 PM
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16. Is It Really About Property Though?
Seems we find privacy and property to think of here. You seem more concerned about property than privacy. I side with privacy.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:06 PM
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8. If law enforcement is not for the people's good, whom is it for?
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 05:06 PM by originalpckelly
If this truly does not curb traffic offenses, why is it being done? Is it not a form of taxation through covert means? I see striking similarities between our revolution and the one that appears to be going on in the UK, at least on a small level.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:51 AM
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19. How do you feel about the Boston Tea Party?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:40 PM
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3. Go for it!
Cameras are everywhere- except on our gov't.

You can't have it both ways!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:08 PM
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9. HA! Good point, I say we install security cameras to monitor everyone in our various governments!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:19 PM
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10. Ya, I want tapes of GW and Jeff Gannon sent to all the wackjob fundie megachurches!
There's your "Christian Leader"! Family values rule!!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:23 PM
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11. me too
:D


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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:27 PM
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13. HAHAHAHAHA!
:rofl:

That has to be one of your best! Keep up the good work, Swampy!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 09:54 PM
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17. me three
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:34 AM
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18. LOLOL!!
:rofl:


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:54 AM
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21. Hahahahaha
That's fabulous!! :rofl:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:25 PM
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12. Not sure about the laws in England, but here these are clearly a violation
of the 6th Amendment. A fact the courts have chosen to deny for the sake of revenue generation.



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GA_ArmyVet Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:40 AM
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20. I am not seeing your logic
here is the 6th ammendment

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law; and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence."

I am not seeing how cameras violate that..Not arguing mind you, I have had the flu for the past four days so it may be my reasoning has deserted me, but was wondering if you could explain.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:07 PM
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14. My guess...
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 06:07 PM by ElboRuum
...that is, if what they're saying about the traffic cams not curbing road deaths is true and not just some statement pulled out of their collective arses, is that people are spending too much time looking around for cameras rather than watching the road.
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