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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:17 PM
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Poll question: Should "Enhanced Interrogation" be Legalized?
1. The Attention Grab: The interrogator forcefully grabs the shirt front of the prisoner and shakes him.

2. Attention Slap: An open-handed slap aimed at causing pain and triggering fear.

3. The Belly Slap: A hard open-handed slap to the stomach. The aim is to cause pain, but not internal injury. Doctors consulted advised against using a punch, which could cause lasting internal damage.

4. Long Time Standing: This technique is described as among the most effective. Prisoners are forced to stand, handcuffed and with their feet shackled to an eye bolt in the floor for more than 40 hours. Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are effective in yielding confessions.

5. The Cold Cell: The prisoner is left to stand naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees. Throughout the time in the cell the prisoner is doused with cold water.

6. Water Boarding: The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:18 PM
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1. NO
Not ever.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:19 PM
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2. the idea that it could even be an issue is so repulsive that I cannot vote.
How far has our country sunk, morally, ethically, and in terms of what constitutes civilization?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:19 PM
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3. Nope.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:20 PM
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4. No, but I'm tempted to say only on the neocons.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:23 PM
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5. Me, too, but I won't.
They deserve it but, if we do what they do, we become them. Fucking paradoxes. They get you every time. x(
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:29 PM
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6. It's efficacy as an interrogation method
is based on the word of liars. Though as a method of intimidation and false confessions it is extremely effective.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:30 PM
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7. can't even come up with a good argument on
pragmatic grounds, since info obtained by torture is so unreliable. no point in compromising one's ethics away for a technique that produces unreliable information.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:32 PM
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8. Absolutly not. nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:33 PM
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9. And they will do these things for months at a time
Think about that. Months locked in isolation, not knowing what time or what day it is, being starved, frozen, and having your sleep constantly interrupted.

This is fucking torture, against people who have been charged with NOTHING!

Hell no this should not be legal.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:35 PM
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10. Absolutely not!
First of all, as everyone already knows, abuse and torture are highly ineffective -- and _here_ is a perfect illustration.

There is absolutely NO legitimate reason or excuse for "enhanced interrogation" techniques except to satisfy the sadistic power lust of the interrogators. That such people operate freely within our society shames us all.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:38 PM
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11. Well, OK, but only if it's one of "them".
And we ask nice at least 3 times.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:38 PM
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12. Who the hell voted "yes"?. . . . . . .n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:45 PM
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13. No shit!
Freeper lurker disruptors?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:50 PM
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14. When Americans start making torture acceptable...........
that's when I get my ticket to ride out of HERE!
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undercutter2006 Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:52 PM
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15. it seems to me they are going about this all wrong
they should give investigators the power to make deals with prisoners for good information. as it stands right now, if you get caught in connection with al quada, you are in there for life basically because you are too 'dangerous' to release. so the prisoners have no incentive to say anything. if they could make a deal for a short prison term, i bet a lot of them would rat out their coworkers. and there is no danger of them going back to their terrorist ways, since everybody hates a rat. that's how the police broke the mob back in the days.

and yeah, from the strictly efficiency point torture does work but only if you know the specific question you want to ask and if you can check the answer, which most of the time is not the case
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PghTiny Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:26 PM
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16. HELL, NO!!!!!
Torture takes away somebody's moral authority
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 08:47 PM
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17. There wasn't a "FUCK, NO!" option...
So I had to settle for just plain "no". :grr:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:40 PM
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18. I would suggest that those who voted 'yes' should ..
find another discussion board. They do not fit in well with the vast majority of DUers, and will not feel comfortable.

This law school graduate says, "Hell, NO!" (as to the original question).
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