Benazhir Bhutto Has Been Killed In Terrorist Attack

[DemocratSinceBirth]

That is just awful...

I am so sad at this madness...

[soothsayer]

1. Shoot, I thought so as soon as they said she was critically injured.

It's always worse than they're willing to say.

[Patsy Stone]

2. Absolutely

I had that "Diana" feeling.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

10. she was no saint, and had serious legal problems and issues,

but she was far better than Musharif.

This death will be a major disaster for Pakistan. And for Bush.

[Patsy Stone]

15. No, no saint

But this was the worst thing that could have happened in that unstable situation.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

22. absolutely. This can start WWIII.

The ultras in the military apparently have made a deal with the ultrareligious muslims. Kashmir negotiations will stop. India will raise its own level of security out of a sense of self-preservation.

Iran, which tried to warn the US about Pakistan will have problems.
Israel, which wants any excuse to attack Iran, may just do so under the cover of extreme confusion and growing tensions.

And George, that SOB, will say, "Not my fault", when actually his policies have led to this cluster fuck.

There is no win win here. For anyone. Bhutto offered the most peaceful, least violent way out of an international quagmire.

[blondeatlast]

30. Indeed--our "diplomacy" has been dangerously negligent in this part of the world.

My husband is from India and we are very familiar with what's going on in the region. This could get really scary, really fast.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

45. and we get to rely on CONDI RICE? to fix it?

we are so fucked. as is the world.

[blondeatlast]

51. When I read the news this morning, I seriously had felt my stomach churn.

I even woke Mr. B uo to tell him the news. He's trying to reach relatives in New Delhi to no avail so far.

[Marrah_G]

60. Mine too

I have a really bad feeling about this. It's like watching dominoes fall.

[earth mom]

66. I have a bad feeling about it too.

:yoiks:

[oldtime dfl_er]

44. She was brave

she knew she was dead woman walking when she went back to Pakistan, but she went back. So tragic.

[Patsy Stone]

48. A very sad day

and a horrible tragedy.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

56. what a poignant, accurate way of saying it. She was brave.

how true. WE don't have anyone with that depth of responsibility or honor here, do we?

No, we have bush/cheney/Condi.

[WinkyDink]

41. It was pretty bad for the woman herself, too. Looking at the "small" picture, as it were.

[Patsy Stone]

9. dupe

[Skidmore]

3. Yes, it is sad. * has chosen to side with the dictator

and to prop Musharraf up as he hides the terrorist. So much for a true democratic movement in Pakistan.

[Marrah_G]

4. This is not good.....

[durrrty libby]

5. This is very bad, and it is not surprising at all. There have been

near misses in the past. Madness indeed

[Subdivisions]

6. All major news outlets confirming Bhutto's death. I hate this

fucking world!

[blogslut]

7. damn

damn damn damn

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. I knew she was in grave danger being back in Pakistan. Such insanity. eom

[Stuart G]

11. I am very sad too,... This quote is truly relevant

“The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it...Returning violence for violence multiples violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. ” –Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

[emanymton]

12. May Allah Rest Her Soul.

[blondeatlast]

13. Oh, my. This is grave news for that region. Wow. nt

[radfringe]

14. going to get even worse

civil war with nukes

[Subdivisions]

16. Before the day is over, that country will fall into total chaos. Pakistanis

are going to go ape-shit, methinks.

[ThomWV]

19. And then what happens to their atom bombs? They have about 40 of them.

[tekisui]

18. US Troops are heading there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2532797&mesg_id=2532797

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. and that will help? In a country which 90% of the people hate us?

this is a major mess.

[blondeatlast]

34. Troops before talks. Yikes. We need serious diplomacy here, but

it's a rest week for Condi; you can't expect her to miss the end-of-year sale at Ferragamo over something so "trivial," can you?

[tekisui]

42. It will be all military.

They will go in to protect the nukes.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

47. condi will simply make things worse.

bush is on vacation, no?

OF COURSE HE IS. I will bet he will not come back.

[bdamomma]

63. I only wish he wouldn't come back.

terrible news about Pakistan.

[earth mom]

67. Yeah, I was thinking Condi would be shopping for shoes too.

:grr:

[Eurobabe]

17. Pakistan is teetering on the edge of disaster...

this is terrible news.

[MiniMe]

20. She wasn't killed by the blast, she was shot in the neck

Damn.

[ThomWV]

21. So it was a matter of national policy, not a suicide bomber?

[MiniMe]

27. The bomb went off, but she was killed by gunshot

Apparently she wasn't close enough to the bomb to be injured by it. More likely the bomb was a distraction, or just trying to get her supporters.

[LakeSamish706]

25. I would bet money it was a targeted hit with mushies finger prints all over it! n/t

[shadowknows69]

26. Or Bush/Cheney's

[Annces]

32. Right - Cheney wants evil to reign

That is his goal, to restrain all forces for good.

[blondeatlast]

36. C--all of the above. nt

[JoDog]

24. Odd reports

CNN's website is reporting that her husband said that she was shot in the neck. It possibly wasn't the bombing itself that killed her.

My paranoid little mind came to this conclusion--IF this is true (big IF), this was a coordinated attack. Use the bombing as a distraction to move Bhutto's bodyguards out of position, then deliver a kill shot. Don't leave it to chance that she would be killed in the bombing.

IF this is true--then Musharraf's fingerprints are all over this.

[Patsy Stone]

35. BBC

hasn't mentioned a gunshot at all. They are still reporting it was the blast.

[MiniMe]

38. The gunshot reports are coming from GEO tv

And the source is her husband.

[Patsy Stone]

50. on edit

I just heard that.

[mwb970]

28. Sad, but not at all surprising.

This event was easily predictable, and not just by me. Bhutto herself spoke of the many people who wanted to kill her, but she carried on anyway. What else could have happened? It was just a matter of exactly when.

[malaise]

29. On what basis do you call this a terrorist attack?

The government was in charge of security here and she was shot in the neck.
She was assassinated in cold blood and if I were a betting woman, I'd say Mushie.

[blondeatlast]

39. Exactly. Assassination--and we need to fight back against the inevitable spin.

Gad, the spinners work damn fast, don't they?

[malaise]

59. Amazing

not really!

[WinkyDink]

43. Then HE would be the terrorist, no?

[Annces]

31. Wasn't the government trying to silence her n/t

[Union Yes]

World War 3 is upon us.

All in the name of religion. When will mankind ban this madness.

"Killin for religion something I dont understand" - Megadeth

[Annces]

40. What do you mean - religion

This is about political power, not religion.

[Union Yes]

55. Bhutto has been a potential terror target since coming out of exile.

Bhutto was assasinated because she was a democratically elected woman of power which in itself is an affront to those whackjobs known as Al Qaeda. Make no mistake about it, this was as much religiously motivated as political.

[blondeatlast]

53. This isn't about religion. This is about politics. How does religion fit into this? nt

[Lilith Velkor]

58. Sometimes religion is about politics

The Pakistani Taliban wanted her dead, although it may have been her other enemies who did this.

[Marrah_G]

68. The two are not seperate in that area.

[soothsayer]

33. Where's OBL?

[pdxmom]

37. There is going to be so much suspicion surrounding Bhutto's death

that I fear this is going to throw the country into total chaos. Another sterling example of the failed Bush* foreign policy.

[bdamomma]

64. a nuclear country which is even worse.

:scared:

[MiniMe]

46. Just on CNN: 2 of her brothers were killed today

in different parts of the world. Definitely sounds like an organized hit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. I Don't Think They Were Killed Contemporaneously

~

[Karenina]

69. Her brothers were killed in 1985 and 1996

Her father was hung in 1979 after a military coup.

[bdamomma]

65. terrible news, an organized hit perhaps?

[Dorian Gray]

70. Do you have a link for that Minime?

I haven't seen that anywhere, and I'd really like to see if that's true from a news source?

[Karenina]

72. It's NOT TRUE.

"Mrs. Bhutto's family history is intertwined with Pakistani politics — and violence. Her father, Zulkifar Ali Bhutto, was prime minister until his government was overthrown by a military coup in 1977. Bhutto himself was tried, found guilty of organizing a political murder, and executed by hanging in 1979. Mrs. Bhutto's brothers then organized a splinter of the Pakistan People's Party known as the Al-Zulfikar Organization, which was marginalized as terrorist. One brother, Shahnawaz Bhutto, died under shadowy circumstances in Paris in 1985. The second, Mir Murtaza Bhutto, was shot to death by police in 1996, during Mrs. Bhutto's second term as prime minister."

excerpt from NYSun 10/17/07

[Dorian Gray]

73. Thanks...

I've seen the idea posited in other threads today, as well... disturbing that people are putting out false information regarding the assassination when the reality is horrific enough.

[Toots]

52. And I would bet it was caused with armaments/explosives from America

America is a purveyor of death and destruction.

[Blackhatjack]

54. And now the lid comes off of Pakistan....

IF a direct connection between Musharraf supporters to those who carried out this assassination is exposed, we will see a huge uprising in Pakistan --and Musharraf will likely use the Military to put it down.

[blondeatlast]

57. Note that all of the "official" reports have come from military spokesmen.

Let the cover-ups begin...

[gatorboy]

61. It was an assassination.

Time to call it what it is.

[earth mom]

71. Exactly. An assassination. NOT a terrorist attack. nt

[Didereaux]

62. Please read the discussion thread at...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2536474
post #8

[ladjf]

74. Not "Terrorist Attack", this was a political assassination. (nt)

Terrorist attacks are designed for the sole purpose of creating fear and chaos, which this killing will do. But, more than likely, this act was intended to change the outcome of the January election.

[Blue_In_AK]

75. What a waste...

We said here when she first went back that it was just a matter of time. This senseless killing has just got to stop.

[fortyfeetunder]

76. A crying shame.

A dark day in Pakistan.