RED ALERT: Bad day ahead for Pakistan, and maybe the world.

[WilliamPitt]

"Breaking News 8:28 AM ET: Benazir Bhutto Killed in Attack, Official Says"

http://www.nytimes.com/

If this turns into a full-scale revolt/bloodbath in Pakistan, Musharraf could fall and/or their nukes could be compromised and/or neighboring nuclear states could get reeeeeeeeeally twitchy.

Be sure India is on high alert, as is China and Russia. The Spec-Ops team we have over there to snatch the nukes in case of total collapse in Pakistan is also, I'm sure, dressed and ready to sprint.

Strap in, folks. If you're the praying type, now would be a good time.

[meegbear]

1. I hope 2008 doesn't start with a bang ...

:scared:

[Echo In Light]

17. Ka Boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i-7AxJb4OE&feature=related

[warrior1]

2. son of a bitch

[Vinca]

3. Frightening, frightening state of affairs. nt

[spinbaby]

4. Did Cheney plan it?

Well, someone had to say it.

[mwb970]

12. This may be the one tragedy the Dick didn't cause.

I say, it may be.

[flyarm]

21. Madaline Albright was just saying..we can't be blamed..that immediately made me think..yep..where is

our black opps today.............

and what bunker is Cheney in????

fly

[spinbaby]

28. How cynical we've all become

Neocons will do that to you.

[mwb970]

33. You're right, but it's more "realistic" than "cynical".

The neocons have proved over and over again that they are scheming, lying, sociopathic criminals who will stop at nothing. When something like this happens, how can you not think of cheney? He's been behind every single evil act of this God-forsaken maladministration.

[mwb970]

34. Will America send troops to keep the peace and protect the nukes?

Oh, that's right, bush broke our military in a 5-year wild goose chase in Iraq, protecting us from non-existent WMDs. Where would we find troops to send anywhere else?

Apparently we're fighting in Iraq so we don't ever have to fight anyone else anywhere else. Talk about pretzel logic!

[WilliamPitt]

41. Already did.

We have Spec-Ops over there to do just that if need be.

[flyarm]

44. ahh shit..now Joe Scarboro is on saying this will effect our elections..

and this will help Rudy..and Hillary..now surprise surprise...we have the boogie man ..again........be afraid ..be very afraid..afraid enough to vote for Rudy and Hillary..the neo cons first choices..

and both of course were not fairing too well in Iowa..so ..da da da..we have a terrorist attack..right before an election in Pakistan..we need chaos now ..we need this so bad..i just bet black opps have been working over time on this..

yes remember The Octopus..they will not let us pick our own president..we need to have fear again..and right on cue..7 days before the first primary..we have an assasination...

and am i suspicious..helllllllllllll noooooooooooooo..

cough..cough...

calling all bunkers..we need Cheney's blue light special..

fly

[Windy]

45. Why clinton? what to get her husband? She has no more experience

in dealing with international crisis than Obama or Edwards. To me, it would seem to help biden if it helps anyone.

[DCKit]

49. Not to mention how many tin-foil hats have been retired in the last few years....

as we've come to learn that they are, in fact, behind many of the most henious acts of the past seven years?

I've never been a CT, because I never had a doubt that there was nothing they wouldn't do to have their way.

[tekisui]

32. I remember an smoke signal sent out of his office, recently.

[bdamomma]

36. well we or this thuggish government we have did not do

anything to diffuse the trouble, we just told Musharref to take off his uniform.

[Eurobabe]

5. Terrible news.

Going to watch Al Jazeera.

[Marrah_G]

6. This is very, very bad.

[Richard Steele]

7. This does not bode well for anyone, anywhere. K&R

[Cooley Hurd]

8. Likely, Mushy will declare martial law and put his uniform back on...

[SpiralHawk]

9. Mars is opposite Pluto*

For real. Mars (retrograde) heading for 29 Gemini, Pluto already at 29 Sagittarius on the far side of the Zodiac, opposition within orb and soon to perfect.

These Mars-Pluto oppositions will characterize 2008, and they are totally nasty. 2008 is not only about to start with this plug-ugly BANG, it is likely to have lots more of it...Shock Doctrine. Extreme Capitalism. War of ideas.

R.I.P. Benazir Bhutto

*This message channeled by Ye Olde Spirale Hawke from Republicon Occultist Ronald Reagan's Dead Astrologer.

[King Coal]

10. Coulda Woulda Shoulda. It's always time to pray, Pitt. If you're the type.

:smoke:

[izzie]

11. What a mess. I donot feel very safe in what Bush will do.

One hardly knows which autocrat we need to give money to and stand behind any more.

[OneGrassRoot]

13. ABC said Condi helped engineer Bhutto's return?

I admittedly don't fully understand the dynamics at play, only a surface-level understanding, but I'm surprised Bushco was involved.

I'll definitely be praying, sending good vibes, etc., and checking in here regularly.

[NashVegas]

14. I'm Thinking This Was a Colossal Failure For the State Dept

For some reason ...

[hlthe2b]

Frightening time... I had friends in living in India after Indira Gandhi

was assassinated... It was an incredibly confusing and frightening time (which later prompted the State Department to require "safe rooms" and generators in all housing leased to Americans on official duty for any US agency).

For this to happen in Pakistan--at this time-- is almost unfathomable. Nuclear crisis time...


No wonder I woke up with such an unexplicable sense of dread.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. yup it was awful. nt

[panader0]

15. Big news......Musharraf, even if he is not behind this, will be

thought to be by most Pakistanis. Bhutto was hugely popular.

[KharmaTrain]

16. Too Fluid Of A Situation

The big question right now is who is behind this assasination...and I think that will determine how this ugly mess plays out. Is it the military...fearing Bhutto getting too powerful again? If that's the case, then I could see this boiling over as the populace is sure to hit the streets and we could see some very bloody days ahead.

But whatif this was done by a religious nut...as she's spoke out against "terrorism" and her gender doesn't settle well with the clerics. If its come from these ranks who can tell how the people will respond. Could it lead to a riff between the religious and secular with the military in the middle?

While there may be a bloodbath, the military has the upper hand...always has, always will. It'd be one thing if this was Musharaff...or some other major military figure who met his end, but this is the leader of the opposition and a threat to a lot of groups in that country.

[demnan]

18. Horrible situation

and so much over there is tribal, or it is based on a dynamic that we don't understand here, whether religious or tribal or against the west. I wouldn't want to be in that part of the world right now.

[warrior1]

19. shot in the neck?

I'll bet Musharraf is behind it.

Heard at the hospital.

Her supporters at the hospital began chanting "Dog, Musharraf, dog," referring to Pakistan's president Pervez Musharraf. Some of them smashed the glass door at the main entrance of the emergency unit, others burst into tears.

[flyarm]

20. she was shot in the neck and chest..just reported on MSNBC..

then the guy killed himself..

so where will we stand..supporting martial law?


and yet ..Bin Laden survives in Pakistan...

shaking head here..

yes Will this could be awful and could be a horrible Blood Bath.

and gee when was the election supposed to be? Jan 12th or so?

wonder who else's black opps wanted her dead?????? hmmmmmmmm let me think.

fly

[Usrename]

27. Jan 8.

RIP Prime Minister Bhutto.

:cry:

[VWolf]

22. Expect Bush to invade Finland in response nt

[ProfessorGAC]

Canada Would Be Easier

The Professor

[NewJeffCT]

35. nah - Mexico

so he can claim it was to combat illegal immigration!

[ProfessorGAC]

42. Yeah. You're Right

What was i thinking?
GAC

[myrna minx]

24. Buckle your seat belts. This isn't good.

:-(

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. You got that right.

The fuse has been lit..............

[babylonsister]

25. Yes. Real bad day ahead; she had many fans. I can't even

imagine what happens next. I wish 'we' weren't going to be involved, but I bet we are. As usual.

[flyarm]

29. U.S. Officials See Waste in Billions Sent to Pakistan, Used For Weapons Against India

who saw this ? of course it was a holiday dump ..so many missed it..this thanks to Babylonsister..........thank you sista!!

and who in Pakistan is not going to believe we were part of this?

hell i don't believe we weren't behind this!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2523424

U.S. Officials See Waste in Billions Sent to Pakistan, Used For Weapons Against India
U.S. Officials See Waste in Billions Sent to Pakistan

By DAVID ROHDE, CARLOTTA GALL, ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGER
Published: December 24, 2007


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — After the United States has spent more than $5 billion in a largely failed effort to bolster the Pakistani military effort against Al Qaeda and the Taliban, some American officials now acknowledge that there were too few controls over the money. The strategy to improve the Pakistani military, they said, needs to be completely revamped.

In interviews in Islamabad and Washington, Bush administration and military officials said they believed that much of the American money was not making its way to frontline Pakistani units. Money has been diverted to help finance weapons systems designed to counter India, not Al Qaeda or the Taliban, the officials said, adding that the United States has paid tens of millions of dollars in inflated Pakistani reimbursement claims for fuel, ammunition and other costs.

“I personally believe there is exaggeration and inflation,” said a senior American military official who has reviewed the program, referring to Pakistani requests for reimbursement. “Then, I point back to the United States and say we didn’t have to give them money this way.”

Pakistani officials say they are incensed at what they see as American ingratitude for Pakistani counterterrorism efforts that have left about 1,000 Pakistani soldiers and police officers dead. They deny that any overcharging has occurred.

The $5 billion was provided through a program known as Coalition Support Funds, which reimburses Pakistan for conducting military operations to fight terrorism. Under a separate program, Pakistan receives $300 million per year in traditional American military financing that pays for equipment and training.

Civilian opponents of President Pervez Musharraf say he used the reimbursements to prop up his government. One European diplomat in Islamabad said the United States should have been more cautious with its aid.

more...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/world/asia/24military...

[flyarm]

30. wow this just makes me feel sick..just sick..this woman was so wonderful...damn it!

she has children and a husband ..and she fought and believed in democracy and womens rights..and the future of Pakistan..

that are now stuck with martial law and a pig who we support..

damn it i am so sick of this shit!

with my brand name on it...USA

fly

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. Not "IF", Sir William. "WHEN".

we are seeing the potential start of World War III

[Murdock]

37. In her own words...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benazir-bhutto/why-im-returning-to-paki_b_62792.html

This is from September on the Huffington Post.

[Kajsa]

38. This is very tragic and very frightening.

Pakistan is so divided and unstable right now.

I'm praying, Will- hoping all hell doesn't break loose.

;(

R.I.P. Benazir Bhutto

[Lyric]

39. World War I started with an assassination too.

This is a very sad and frightening day. Pay attention, folks--you are witnessing history in the making.

[DinahMoeHum]

40. Could Bhutto become the Pakistani version of Begnino Aquino (Philippines) ??

A few years after Aquino's murder - Ferdinand Marcos's government fell.

:shrug:

[formercia]

43. This is how WWI started

when Archduke Ferdinand was assasinated in Sarajevo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_in_Sarajevo

[Windy]

46. From all I've read, bhutto was also pretty corrupt

There are reports that quite a few of her protest rallies were staged. It will be an excuse for further instability and revolt however.

[Blackhatjack]

47. This was in the cards when she decided to return to Pakistan...

IMHO it could not have turned out any other way --unless there was a violent otherthrow and assassination of Musharraf first.

[woodsprite]

48. Maybe Cheney wants those nukes, since he couldn't sneak

ones out of the US.