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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:26 AM
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Interesting coincidence.. a few days ago there was a story about Special Forces
now in Pakistan. Within days a major assassination occurs...coincidence??????
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:27 AM
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1. U.S. Troops to Head to Pakistan--Dec. 26
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:27 AM
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2. yeah, was just reading it: US to expand its military presence in Pak
US to expand its military presence in Pak

By ANI
Wednesday December 26, 09:06 PM
Washington, Dec 26 (ANI): The United Stated is planning to send its Special Forces to Pakistan that will train and support indigenous counter-insurgency forces and clandestine counter terrorism units, US defence officials have revealed.

These Pakistan-centric operations may mark a shift for the US military and for the Washington-Islamabad relations, a report in the Washington Post stated.

After the 9/11 terror attacks, the US had used Pakistani bases to launch its movements into Afghanistan.

After the US troops succeeded in overthrowing the Taliban Government and established its main operating base at Bagram, it left Pakistan almost entirely. After that the Pakistan Government has put a ceiling on the US's involvement in cross-border military operations and paramilitary operations in the country.

The daily pointed out that the inability of Pakistani forces to control its border of the frontier areas has been irritating the Pentagon. The persisting instability in Pakistan has also heightened the Bush Administration's concern about Islamic extremists there.

According to Pentagon sources, having a different agreement with Pakistan is now a priority for the new head of the US Special Operations Command, Admiral Eric T Olson, who visited Pakistan in August, November and December.

In December, Olson met Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf, Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman General Tariq Majid and Lt. General Muhammad Masood Aslam, commander of the military and paramilitary troops in northwest Pakistan. He also paid a visit to the headquarters of the Frontier Corps, a separate paramilitary force recruited from Pakistan's border tribes.

more: http://in.news.yahoo.com/071226/139/6ovio.html
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:28 AM
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3. coincidence.
i'm not seeing a dead bhutto being a good thing for our foreign policy.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:28 AM
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4. And here's the story
link: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/12/musharrafs_woes_have_opened_a.html?nav=rss_blog

U.S. Troops to Head to Pakistan

Beginning early next year, U.S. Special Forces are expected to vastly expand their presence in Pakistan, as part of an effort to train and support indigenous counter-insurgency forces and clandestine counterterrorism units, according to defense officials involved with the planning.

These Pakistan-centric operations will mark a shift for the U.S. military and for U.S. Pakistan relations. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, the U.S. used Pakistani bases to stage movements into Afghanistan. Yet once the U.S. deposed the Taliban government and established its main operating base at Bagram, north of Kabul, U.S. forces left Pakistan almost entirely. Since then, Pakistan has restricted U.S. involvement in cross-border military operations as well as paramilitary operations on its soil.

But the Pentagon has been frustrated by the inability of Pakistani national forces to control the borders or the frontier area. And Pakistan's political instability has heightened U.S. concern about Islamic extremists there.

According to Pentagon sources, reaching a different agreement with Pakistan became a priority for the new head of the U.S. Special Operations Command, Adm. Eric T. Olson. Olson visited Pakistan in August, November and again this month, meeting with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman Gen. Tariq Majid and Lt. Gen. Muhammad Masood Aslam, commander of the military and paramilitary troops in northwest Pakistan. Olson also visited the headquarters of the Frontier Corps, a separate paramilitary force recruited from Pakistan's border tribes...
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:29 AM
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5. See this thread...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:31 AM
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6. She had many enemies trying to kill her
This is one event I feel pretty comfortable in saying the we did not do it.

There are other bad people in the world. Other corrupt governments. Other crazy religious people.

This was a very contreversal leader who knew she was risking her life in going back there. She was also a woman who not only dared show her face and speak without being spoken to, but she also held a job...a very powerful job. The religious extremists there do not tolerate women in any capacity other then within the household. She had alot of enemies.

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:53 AM
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7. Yes she did have many enemies
While you may be comfortable that the current administration had nothing to do with it, can you say with a 100% feeling that there was no way that US Spec Ops was involved?

Neither can I!

The only government that had anything to seriously fear from her was the current Pakistani government, and the US government. She could have brought a change to Pakistan that perhaps the US wasn't ready for. And there is the religious fanatic option, especially when you consider that there are those in Pakistan that would never allow a woman to hold such a high office again.

There are many suspects, that list also includes the US, and until an independent investigation uncovers the facts no one will know who was ultimately behind the assassination.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:03 AM
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8. No one can say absolutely
but they are not even close to the top of my list.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:36 AM
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9. a friend's son is Special Forces 82nd Airborne-hope he survives this nt
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:43 AM
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10. 82 Airborne is not Special Forces
It is the 82nd Airborne Division. Special Forces has it's own Divisions such as 5th Special Forces or 7th Special Forces. Good Chance that the 82nd Airborne person is a Ranger involved in Special Operations though.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:54 AM
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12. 82nd is just an Airborne Division, not SF
82nd does conventional warfare, not behind the lines Special Forces stuff. He's probably not involved at all.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:51 AM
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11. If the Admin wanted her dead, all they would have to do is wait.
Bhutto stood in opposition to al qaeda and had powerful political enemies, as did her family for many years.

Yeah, the timing of the arrival of Special Forces was most likely a coincidence.
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