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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:19 PM
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Samuel Adams Beers Banned in Some States
How do DUers feel that the Samuel Adams drink Utopias is banned in a number of states? According to the Samuel Adams website the beer Utopias and a number of other beers are banned in different states.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:20 PM
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1. Sam is available here
but I haven't seen Utopias. What is that?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:20 PM
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2. why?
Is the alcohol content too high or something?
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:21 PM
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27. Yeah, some of those "limited edition" Sam Adams are 20 or 25% alcohol
There are some states out there that still have a 5% maximum. I'm sure they would make all sorts of arguments against alcohol abuse, drunk driving, etc. but such arguments are ridiculous. The blood alcohol level will increase if you keep drinking, whether it's good beer or shitty beer (or anything else with alcohol in it) I'd rather have the good stuff, just because it tastes better.

I've never tried the Sam Adams varieties in question, they don't get to the opposite side of the country. Hell we don't even get all of their "normal" beers here.
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:21 PM
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3. Doesn't bother me ----who cares?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:21 PM
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4. I saw it for sale here the other day. I was amazed at the price
and alcohol percentage.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:27 PM
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7. Low, high? What's up?
I hadn't heard any of this before.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:30 PM
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9. $180/bottle
I had to read it several times. I figured, okay for a keg of special stuff, but for a bottle?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:38 PM
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12. For 180 bucks I can brew you up something special and custom
in a few hours...sheesh
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:54 PM
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15. I can't imagine spending that on alcohol.
Unless it was 6 months worth of it.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:00 PM
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17. I can imagine spending that much
but it better be on outstanding whiskey, made by a Scot, with a peat fire. :)
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:38 PM
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22. Brewing to over 20% is pretty damn hard
Took me a month of adding sugar twice a day to get to 21%.

The store around me had a bottle of Utopia for $200. They sold it pretty quickly and could have sold more.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:42 PM
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23. Two weeks ago we bought two sixpacks
of Sam Adams beer which came out to around $2 a bottle. Where in the world did you get $180 a bottle. Was it a 50-gallon bottle?
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:56 PM
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16. Its more a collectors item than a drink
Although I've shared one with some friends. Yup, depends on the distributor mark up (assuming the distributors don't just buy/take them for themselves) but 180 per bottle (it's more of a flagon really).

They usually hit the distributors in October and they are very hard to find. Each Sam employee gets one based on seniority (each bottle is individually numbered). This years model of the Utopias was sold in what looked like a brandy decanter. Local distributor in Fairfax, VA was supposed to get a couple of bottles but when I called them the guy who I talked to laughed and said they were already spoken for.

A few bottles will turn up on E-bay from time to time.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:30 PM
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21. Fuck that noise. A fifth of "Johnny Walker Gold" is still cheaper than that.
And that's some truly FINE stuff, Itellyawhut!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:26 PM
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5. Let Me Guess... Extremist Brainwashed Conservative Weenies
what a pathetically stupid lot.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:33 PM
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11. No
Why do you assume that just because someone asked a question they had to be an "Extremist Brainwashed Conservative Weenies"? I asked the question just to see what other people thought. I do not really have a problem with the drinks being banned in some states. I just thought it was interesting that the drinks were banned in some states and decided to ask others how other people felt about the bannings.

You should start asking people why they ask certain questions before you just jump to a conclusion. Someone might just be asking a question in order to have conversion.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:24 PM
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28. What, and wreck the fun for the rest of us?
Watching people go off unhinged for no good reason makes me feel normal!

:rofl:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:42 PM
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13. EBCWs! Oh no!
Have mercy on America we have been invaded by a horde of chickenhawk EBCWs...
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:27 PM
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6. CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!
Whew....it's been awhile.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:28 PM
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8. Hmm don't know about Samuel Adams Utopia, but -
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 05:30 PM by earthboundmisfit
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:33 PM
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10. Twenty per cent alcohol?
I saw or read something about it.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:49 PM
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14. The Utopias Answer
I went on a tour of the brewery earlier this year, so let me answer this. Utopias is a triple brewed beer with 18-21% alcohol content, which is higher than 12 or 13 states allow. The beer is really sold as a collectors item. They only brew enough to fill 10,000 individual "flagons" of the stuff and each one is cork sealed and stamped with it's bottle number. I shared a 2004 Utopias with a few other people and it really tastes more like slightly carbonated brandy, but that's still not really right. It's a very unique taste.

Sam Adams has several brew tanks (most are not at the main brewing facility in Boston, they lease space from Old Latrobe and a few other bottlers) they use to brew unique and experimental beer. They are true brewers in this regard. Lot of it gets tossed out, but they hit a home run from time to time. Their triple-bock from 2000 is still usually as good as the day it was bottled assuming it's been kept in the correct environment.

So really the main dozen or so beers that Sam makes (Sam, Sam Light, the seasonal brews and several others) are perfectly legal in all states (except maybe Utah). Some of their more experimental brews are illegal in places because of the alcohol content in the beer is half again as strong as a really strong wine.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:44 PM
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24. My son found some of the triple bock last month and it had gone bad
Which is what I have heard from some other people.

Did you tour the brewery in Jamaica Plains? We went there a couple of months ago. The tour was short but I thought they presented things well for non-brewers.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:59 PM
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26. Yup, Jamaica Plains
I loved the tour. I've been to about two dozen breweries from the huge Bud factory in St. Louis to some of the very small micro brews and this was one of my faves. They did a great job of explaining the brewing process and the history of Sam Adams, and the tour guides were a lot of fun. It was fairly short...I think the tour plus the reception where we got to try several beers was about two hours, but then again, it's a pretty small brewery, unlike the AB tour in St. Louis where the brewery/bottling and admin areas take up the space of a small town.

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:03 PM
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18. Banned because one beer will make most women completely disrobe
If your woman is in menopause get a six-pack.

:)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:21 PM
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19. I tried Samuel Adams twice and it tasted like
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 06:23 PM by doc03
skunk beer to me. The Samuel Adams we get here is brewed at Iron City in Pittsburgh from what I have heard. From my experience the IC Light is better.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:28 PM
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20. that's the perogative of those states, isn't it?
and samual adams has to be aware of the various state statutes when it brews the beer- so it apparently doesn't matter to them, either.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:45 PM
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25. John Kerry will take 'em on! n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:26 PM
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29. I just wish that dude would shut up about his beer
I bet it would kill him if I told him it just tastes like a Schlitz or a Ganny.
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