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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:32 PM
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So You Think Ron Paul (Dennis Kucinich) Can WIN?
The apathy and ignorance of Ron Paul's supporters could cost him the election.

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Second in a series -
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You've seen it with your own eyes: Ron Paul has more money, more on-the-ground support, and more enthusiasm among his supporters than any other presidential candidate. You've watched Ron Paul's meteoric rise despite concerted efforts of the bought-and-paid-for media to demonize him. You've personally seen hundreds, perhaps thousands of supporters come on board Dr. Paul's Freedom Train. Yet all the support, all the work, all the money -- it may all come to naught! Here's why:

It won't matter how many voters change their registration to the Republican party. It won't make a bit of difference how many Democrats cross the aisle. I could care less how many independents in New Hampshire cast a ballot for Dr. Paul. All the great caucus efforts in Iowa - so what? When the final count is in, when the votes are tallied, none of it will count -- unless the votes that are cast are counted, every one, accurately and honestly! And, even if by some fluke the votes are counted precisely, it will be irrelevant if they are not all accurately accumulated and honestly reported!

At the suggestion of Nolan Chart founder Walt Thiesen, I raised this issue -- "How The US Became A Third-World Country" -- several days ago to, what has been so far, a deafening silence. Walt brought it up again in his riveting dream-scenario "My Dream For The Ron Paul Campaign". Maybe you missed those? Please go back and read them now! Follow the links, and be afraid - be very afraid - that your labors for Dr. Paul may all be wasted!

Dare we chalk this up to apathy and ignorance? Apathy about the possibility of vote fraud. Ignorance about the ways and means the fraud will be accomplished. Is it possible that Ron Paul's army of supporters, frequently described by the traditional media as "rabid," "frenetic," etc., are just so fixated on their idol that they haven't thought about the next counter-move from the opposition? The trump card that could force us to fold in this all-too-important game?

http://www.nolanchart.com/article652.html
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:35 PM
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1. Hey!!!

TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:41 PM
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2. What are he's poll numbers anyway?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:17 AM
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3. Who's to say that Dennis will really choose Ronnie?
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:27 AM
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5. DK said
"it's not going to happen" - meaning Ron Paul as a running mate.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:26 AM
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10. There we go
I knew DK was gonna throw the bum out.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:24 AM
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4. Their IDEAS have already WON!
NOW to find enough sane thinking voters.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:39 PM
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12. fortunately, sane voters have rejected most of ron paul's ideas
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:29 AM
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6. dishonest thread title
Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are polar opposites.

You get a B- for weak attempt at smearing.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:30 AM
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7. In a word...
No.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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PakistaniDUer Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:45 AM
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8. If money/media wasn't a factor, DK would be President
He has next to no personal scandals, and is a straight white man with mainstream progressive ideas, for the most part.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:28 AM
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9. You could give him $100 million
and I still doubt he'd break 10% of the vote.
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Peace 2008 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:24 PM
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11. I think everyone missed the point
"when the votes are tallied, none of it will count -- unless the votes that are cast are counted, every one, accurately and honestly!"

We need a plan to stop the election fraud in the primaries as well as the general.
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