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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:42 AM Original message |
I told my daughter that it was unladylike to burp in front of people--she told me that was sexist. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'd go with "rude and ignorant" rather than "unladylike". |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. Yep. Told my daughter "Wow, I didn't realize i was raising a Republican" when she farted at dinner. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. I just say "be polite" to my daughters. Never occured to me that "ladylike" was something |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. It most certainly is, as is being gentlemanly. The world needs more ladies and gentlemen. nt |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
87. Sure, as long as the standards for this are the SAME for both genders. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
111. Damned straight, kineta! nt |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Better comment is that it's "rude" regardless of who does it |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. Don't Correct The Brother |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. "impolite" will do.. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. "Better out than in." |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. "More room." |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. More room on the outside than there is on the inside. |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Better To Burp |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. Don't expect a dinner invite |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Well, I guess that's the cross I must bear. Woe is me. |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
89. Better the attic than the basement |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. In the company of other scuba divers, I say ... |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. It is just plain rude to burp out loud in front of dinner companions. In this |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. But the use of "ladylike" implies that it's only unacceptable if girls do it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. When a boy does it, it's "ungentlemanly" |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The OP said his brother & father don't get corrected in the same way |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Sorry for not being more clear - I did read and understand the OP |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. The disparity in enforcement IS sexist. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. and that should have been noted. Women and girls are expected to be ladies but boys and men... |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
59. I know. Clearly, that was a faux pas. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Alas, at my wedding reception, it was a belching symphony. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
60. In Japan it's a compliment.. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. Equal time... belching at the table is also "ungentlemanly" |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Thanks for the peek into the "Upstairs Downstairs" world. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Oh Get off your high horse, TN |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
55. "High horse"?? Moi??? ROFL!!! |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Seriously, let me know when you pick up the clue phone |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. "you think everybody should be boorish"?? Really? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Now we're getting somewhere |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
63. I also find the term "well-bred" offensive, although I understand |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It's possible to democratize the term |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I agree. Welcome to DU! |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Welcome to DU, Radiation Therapy! |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Although I am a fan of paying attention to what words and phrases |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
91. ... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
104. Well bred, in modern usage... |
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cynthia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Specifically that your parents taught you manners |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. Perfectly stated. nt |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Thank you MookieWilson |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #90 |
109. You are welcome, Supernova. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
11. Terms like ladylike and gentlemanly are generally used with respectful intent |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. Just tell your brother and father they aren't being ladylike. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Conversely, when dad and bro don't burp, they ARE being ladylike? |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. LOL! maybe the OP can compliment his brother and father when they don't burp! |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Best done within earshot of that bright daughter |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. Traditionally the connotation of ladylike is sexist |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. I like to think the definition has changed, thanks to folks like Katharine Hepburn, etc. nt |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. I never thought of her as ladylike |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
80. True, in part... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
15. she is right. if you tolerate it from males and not females, its the definition of sexist |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. For god's sake don't let her watch this |
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Drum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. A conundrum. |
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wellstone dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. Good luck with this, |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
20. Mom always told us... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
21. "but I'm use to seeing guys act this way." |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Well said. 'Lady' is NOT a synonym for 'woman'. We need higher expectations for men. nt |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. WTF |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Thank You! |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Yes...Read My Response |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Defecating is a natural function, too. But you don't do it in front of other people. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. *SNORT* |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
81. So is breathing. Please stop. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. You don't disregard the customs of people in other countries, do you? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. According to "some people," no host would EVER make a guest feel uncomfortable or demeaned ... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Your subject line states a good point. That's exactly what Judith Martin would say. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. I can't believe you're trying to equate manners with monarchy. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #99 |
115. Ignorance alloyed with arrogance is stupidity. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. That has got to be the lamest argument I've ever heard. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
120. true. nt |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. Maybe just tell her that it's rude and a sign of being a socially ignorant boor. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. . |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
29. Its perfectly natural bodily function, and nothing to be ashamed off. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
32. I believe your daughter is 100% correct. IMHO, It was a sexist remark. Burping is a bodily function |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. You could have noted that it was also ungentlemanly to do so. That's not sexist, it's true. nt |
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Mike Nelson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
36. You have a GREAT daughter, and... |
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LiberalArkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
39. I am sorry, I agree with trumad |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Same here, LiberalArkie. EVERYONE needs better manners. nt |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. You missed the point. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
41. Yeah, she's right. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
42. She was also being ungentlemanly |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
43. Sexist only if you fail to tell your sons they are being "ungentlemanly" |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
46. Neither boys or girls should burp loudly in public. It's rude. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
53. It's uncouth no matter who's doing it. If you don't treat your father and |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
54. It's rude when either boys or girls (or men and women for that matter) do it. Unladylike could be |
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sandrakae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
58. Gloria Steinem wouldn't burp in public. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. But would she think it's okay for the men in her family to burp publicly but |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
112. You can dress Gloria up and take her anywhere. Manners should be similarly universal. Gloria ... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
64. She's already working for the CIA and pushing corporate feminism? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yes it is these days |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. Yes, it's a sexist comment. Better to teach manners to both boys and girls and request the same of |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
68. For me, the term 'lady' is classist. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. I guess it would depend upon if the word Lady were a sexist word. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. It's bad form for guys too |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
74. Did you tell her not to be contentious toward her father? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. Do you give men the same lecture or is it A-OK for guys to belch in public? |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Well---I find it more difficult to correct the manners of an adult |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
86. If you want to be nit picky, "I ain't use to that" makes you sound like an ignorant redneck. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
88. She sounds like a redhead. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
94. Try telling her it is "unfeminine." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. I like your daughter. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
96. You should've have told her it was rude - and the same to your male |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. No nt |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
98. ground her ass. Tell her she can belch all she wants in her room |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. lol |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. I laughed out loud at this one. Thanks! nt |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
100. In a word, yes. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
103. it's rude in public imo from anybody, now i say that as someone who can burp |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
105. I say nurture it and teach her to belch the National Anthem or something. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. I grew up learning to belch the alphabet. |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
107. You would be a hypocrite if you didn't tell your brother and father...... |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
108. I think your daughter is correct that it's sexist |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
113. Ladylike/unladylike are words that make my skin crawl |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
116. I have a five year old little girl and I think |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
118. I never used the word unladylike |
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DawgHouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
119. Your daughter sounds like a great person! |
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