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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:04 PM
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Sam Nunn, William Cohen GO TO HELL!

I love the way it's suddenly a national emergency that the two parties work together! WHY NOW? All the "statesmen" had a chance to say something about the OUT OF CONTROL SPOILED BRAT GEORGE W BUSH who's has wrecked this country! Did they say anything about his PARTISANSHIP? Let's listen... (chirp chirp) NOTHING!

So what the deal? Why the emergency? Could it be that the Democrats are set to sweep the election. The WH and bigger majorities in both houses? DUH!

I got a message for Sam Nunn. We don't have to co-operate with ANYBODY! In 2009 we will RULE! No thanks to you or anybody else. You didn't lift a finger to help clean up this mess and you're NOT invited to the party.

As far as our candidates go.. I don't even want to hear the word bi-partisanship. I want to hear the word JUSTICE! Justice for this country, justice for all the criminals in the Bush Administration.

NO JUSTICE/NO PEACE!

Run Bloomberg if you want. It's not going to matter. In 2008 we kick frigging ASS!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:21 PM
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1. you're my kind of ranter, Joanne
even tho your views are controversial at times, I find myself agreeing heartily over and over.

:loveya:

The failure to seek justice by our so-called representatives hurts the worst. How could I have grown up to the advanced age of 55 only to discover I don't live in the brave, rule-of law loving fighter for freedom and the people country I thought I did. Instead I live in a country of cowardly corporate shills, walking around in chains to powerful interests who only want to squeeze us dry, where the means for justice have been eroded so cunningly and thoroughly that there seems to be no hope.

Our leaders are criminal. The govt is there to protect the people from powerful interests who take advantage of their power. I always thought. You go to court for redress, you go to Congress for redress. Now we discover those means are closed to us, and the trial lawyers and independent judges, the last scrap of possible help, are being demonized and purged. Where do we go?

If Bloomberg promised to re-open the 9/11 case and to pursue justice against the Cheney gang, he would get my support. Instead, he's acting like another mysterious power broker.

It's silly, but flooding our local Dem party with US, our presence, our voices, our alarm--probably won't work, but we must try it anyway. Go down fighting or on our knees.



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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:28 PM
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14. Thankyou librechik. I like you too.
:toast:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:22 PM
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2. Amen! We don't need repuke TROLLS here supporting it either...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:24 PM
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3. now that's what I call a righteous rant!
k&r
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:25 PM
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4. With you all the way
The timing is infuriating, and to me, at least, a transparent attempt to ensure the Dems do not sweep 2008.

I don't trust this gang at all -- conservatives for the Dems, maybe one moderate for the Republicans, (Whitman, although she certainly took her time seeing the light about Bush), and one conveniently in-between chameleon around whom they are all hoping to rally.

Nonsense. What we need is unity all right. The unity of a solidly Democratic Congress and Executive branch.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:29 PM
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5. Can't these guys ever stay out in their pastures where they belong? Go away
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 12:29 PM by Peregrine Took
and stay away, their day is over, such as it was.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:29 PM
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6. K&R
Absolutely! I don't want bipartisan either. Everytime it happens, the nation gets screwed. Stand for something!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:40 PM
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7. Ooooh, Rah!!
Kick some friggin' ass!!

That's what I want to hear.

No friggin' prisoners!!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:10 PM
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8. kick ass rant!
:patriot:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:14 PM
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9. Sam Nunn - the homophobic hawk DINO. Where've you been, Sam?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:15 PM
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10. Hey I hear ya. Our Dem congressman here keeps talking about bi-partisanship
And I just want to scream. Why does he want to cooperate with those bastards??
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:24 PM
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21. Is he dumb enough
to think these thugs will work in a bipartisan fashion?

At least the push for bipartisanship shows things are reaching a breaking point. Its going to take a major military and economic crisis to break Bush's hold. The sooner the system breaks down, crashes and burns, the sooner we can start rebuilding it.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:42 PM
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25. He's a Blue Dog
Need I say more? :)
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:25 PM
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11. We won in 2006 with the support of MILLIONS of independents, and of many disaffected Republicans....
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:27 PM by charles t



We control the Senate because of the victory of an ex-Republican by 7000 votes in Virginia.

That Senator has become an eloquent spokesman for our Democratic POPULIST message, publishing this editorial on the pages of the Wall Street Journal within 2 weeks of his election (If you want to see what kind of conservative rage he stirred up, try reading the published responses to his op-ed):






Class Struggle
American workers have a chance to be heard.

BY JIM WEBB

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

The most important--and unfortunately the least debated--issue in politics today is our society's steady drift toward a class-based system, the likes of which we have not seen since the 19th century. America's top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. It is not unfair to say that they are literally living in a different country. Few among them send their children to public schools; fewer still send their loved ones to fight our wars. They own most of our stocks, making the stock market an unreliable indicator of the economic health of working people. The top 1% now takes in an astounding 16% of national income, up from 8% in 1980. The tax codes protect them, just as they protect corporate America, through a vast system of loopholes.

Incestuous corporate boards regularly approve compensation packages for chief executives and others that are out of logic's range. As this newspaper has reported, the average CEO of a sizable corporation makes more than $10 million a year, while the minimum wage for workers amounts to about $10,000 a year, and has not been raised in nearly a decade. When I graduated from college in the 1960s, the average CEO made 20 times what the average worker made. Today, that CEO makes 400 times as much.

In the age of globalization and outsourcing, and with a vast underground labor pool from illegal immigration, the average American worker is seeing a different life and a troubling future. Trickle-down economics didn't happen. Despite the vaunted all-time highs of the stock market, wages and salaries are at all-time lows as a percentage of the national wealth. At the same time, medical costs have risen 73% in the last six years alone. Half of that increase comes from wage-earners' pockets rather than from insurance, and 47 million Americans have no medical insurance at all.

Manufacturing jobs are disappearing. Many earned pension programs have collapsed in the wake of corporate "reorganization." And workers' ability to negotiate their futures has been eviscerated by the twin threats of modern corporate America: If they complain too loudly, their jobs might either be outsourced overseas or given to illegal immigrants.

This ever-widening divide is too often ignored or downplayed by its beneficiaries. A sense of entitlement has set in among elites, bordering on hubris. When I raised this issue with corporate leaders during the recent political campaign, I was met repeatedly with denials, and, from some, an overt lack of concern for those who are falling behind. A troubling arrogance is in the air among the nation's most fortunate. Some shrug off large-scale economic and social dislocations as the inevitable byproducts of the "rough road of capitalism." Others claim that it's the fault of the worker or the public education system, that the average American is simply not up to the international challenge, that our education system fails us, or that our workers have become spoiled by old notions of corporate paternalism.........

....(snip)......

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009246







Here are 7 influential conservatives who renounced the Republican Party and openly supported Democratic victory in 2006:

Time for Us to Go

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0610.forum.html





Here's the editorial the American Conservative, based in Alexandria, Virginia, published days before we won control of the Senate by 7000 Virginia votes:


The GOP Must Go

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_11_20/feature.html










Do you think 2008 will be a piece of cake?

Do you think it will be easier than 2006?

Do you truly want independents and disillusioned Republicans to stay in their own pastures?

Can American democracy survive 4-8 years of Giulliani, Romney, McCain, or Huckabee in the White House?











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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:30 PM
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15. That's right. they didn't help him did they.
we're off to the finish line and they can't stop us now!


:party:
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:15 PM
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18. Who didn't help whom?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:25 PM
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12. I'm glad people agree. You know what they're doing, don't you..
None of these corporatists where PANICKED until John Edwards started going up in the polls. And you know why. They're afraid of a POPULIST President. A president that is for the people instead of the corporations. Bi-partisianship my ass. They're building a fire-wall to protect THEMSELVES in case the GOP is dead for a generation. A FAKE Independant Party. It's just more SHAPE-SHIFTING! It's not going to work either. It's the Americans people's turn to run the governemnt, in THEIR INTEREST and all the SELFISH GREEDY elites can just burn in Hell.

Can't you just picture all the emergency meetings. This has got to be a nightmare for them. But they deserve everything they get. Read the Iraq chapter in The Shock Doctrine. They didn't stop Bush because they were in on the plan.

TO privatize a whole country. For who? For US corporations. They are all guilty of MASS MURDER! And when George Bush is gone, the camera gets turned on them. BOO, that's pretty scary. No wonder they're jumping in the race. It may the the only way to save their own lives.

But it's not going to work. They are killing people with their policies. Next year millions of Americans will loose their homes because people like Bloomberg, thought it was a good idea to deregulate the mortgage industry. Let the banks raise credit cards interest rates to 25%. Just so they could have MORE MONEY!

It's a joke that Bloomberg, mister finacial industry, thinks he can fool the people into thinking he's "for them". HA! Pathetic!

It's MORNING IN AMERICA. Finally, we are going to get this country back from the people who put us thru this 30 year nightmare.

We're getting rid of Bush family CRIMINALS and then we're getting rid of them too. The gig is up. They not fooling anybody!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:41 PM
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17. Big applause for you Joanne. Brilliant.
K & R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:27 PM
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13. Big K & R !!!
:yourock:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:33 PM
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16. You just spoke for me!1 n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:20 PM
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19. Bush/Cheney don't cooperate with anyone
You can't negotiate with a dictatorship who has absolute power, who controls the government, the courts, commerce and the news media. There's no way to compromise with these thugs, they have no intention of doing any less than what they want.

Nunn and Cohen are living in a different world.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:22 PM
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20. Shouldn't this be in LBN?
:loveya:
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:26 PM
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22. Good Rant
I could not agree more....
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:35 PM
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23. Preach it, Joanne! K&R
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:36 PM
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24. Isn't Iraq aiming for a "national unity" government?? Jeebus, we're going
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 02:37 PM by Gloria
the same route...and it really means RETHUGLICANS in control!

What a load of crap. Why don't any of these cowards bust their butts and run if they're so "needed"?
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:45 PM
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26. I doubt Hillary would approve
Since Cohen was SecDef in her husband's cabinet.

Personally, I like Cohen but have antipathy towards Nunn. 0
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:50 PM
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27. I we listened to Sam Nunn's advice. The next time we play poker
with the Republicans and we have four aces.. We'll just fold to their 4 duces. I can't believe they have they nerve to say this.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 05:24 PM
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28. Every time I hear the word "bipartisanship," my mind mentally translates it to
"caving in."
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:57 PM
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29. A hearty K & R!
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