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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:06 PM
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government's shutdown of medical safety program called bizarre and dangerous
A Lifesaving Checklist
By ATUL GAWANDE
Published: December 30, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/opinion/30gawande.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

IN Bethesda, Md., in a squat building off a suburban parkway, sits a small federal agency called the Office for Human Research Protections. Its aim is to protect people. But lately you have to wonder. Consider this recent case.

A year ago, researchers at Johns Hopkins University published the results of a program that instituted in nearly every intensive care unit in Michigan a simple five-step checklist designed to prevent certain hospital infections. It reminds doctors to make sure, for example, that before putting large intravenous lines into patients, they actually wash their hands and don a sterile gown and gloves.

The results were stunning. Within three months, the rate of bloodstream infections from these I.V. lines fell by two-thirds. The average I.C.U. cut its infection rate from 4 percent to zero. Over 18 months, the program saved more than 1,500 lives and nearly $200 million.

Yet this past month, the Office for Human Research Protections shut the program down. The agency issued notice to the researchers and the Michigan Health and Hospital Association that, by introducing a checklist and tracking the results without written, informed consent from each patient and health-care provider, they had violated scientific ethics regulations. Johns Hopkins had to halt not only the program in Michigan but also its plans to extend it to hospitals in New Jersey and Rhode Island.

The government’s decision was bizarre and dangerous. But there was a certain blinkered logic to it, which went like this: A checklist is an alteration in medical care no less than an experimental drug is. Studying an experimental drug in people without federal monitoring and explicit written permission from each patient is unethical and illegal. Therefore it is no less unethical and illegal to do the same with a checklist. Indeed, a checklist may require even more stringent oversight, the administration ruled, because the data gathered in testing it could put not only the patients but also the doctors at risk — by exposing how poorly some of them follow basic infection-prevention procedures.

The need for safeguards in medical experimentation has been evident since before the Nazi physician trials at Nuremberg. Testing a checklist for infection prevention, however, is not the same as testing an experimental drug — and neither are like-minded efforts now under way to reduce pneumonia in hospitals, improve the consistency of stroke and heart attack treatment and increase flu vaccination rates. Such organizational research work, new to medicine, aims to cement minimum standards and ensure they are followed, not to discover new therapies. This work is different from drug testing not merely because it poses lower risks, but because a failure to carry it out poses a vastly greater risk to people’s lives.>>>>

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:08 PM
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1. in other words
"i am the decider, you decided something without me so its wrong"
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 12:30 AM
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11. Yeah, probably something like that n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:10 PM
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2. Privatize and outsource everything and let corporations be deregulated
...and look at the mess we're in now. And still these globalizationist corporations want MORE.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:19 PM
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5. It does appear...
that they are trying to kill off the American people who don't fit neatly into corporate scheme. You can call me crazy and tell me to put on my tinfoil hat, but something strange is going on.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:32 PM
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13. More 'shock doctrine' as Naomi Klein correctly puts it IMHO nt
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:11 PM
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3. So what is next? take out "wash your hands" signs in restrooms.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:17 PM
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4. This planet is just chock full of stupid people
This isn't what they promised me in the brochure. I want to go to a different planet. One where they have smart people. There must be a planet like that out there. Humans are terminally stupid.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:23 PM
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6. The program saved 1,500 lives
But since it didn't involve torture, the Bush administration decided it had to be shut down. Vote Republican, shorten your life expectancy.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:26 PM
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10. Refer to post 5 n/t
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:48 PM
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7. It's unethical and illegal when it saves lives and monies
but when it comes to profits the corporate first amendment rights trumps our right to privacy

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/health/2007/12/22/Prescription.Privacy/
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:05 PM
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8. What kind of illogical thinking is that...
A federal judge has ruled that a new Maine law making doctors' prescription-writing habits confidential violates the Constitution.

Makes my head spin!!
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:18 PM
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9. the logic of money and power nt
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 05:36 AM
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12. docs at risk: "by exposing how poorly some of them follow basic infection-prevention procedures" nt
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 02:24 PM
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14. Saves money and LIVES! CUT!
The weak, old, sick and young are always the first to go in a republican regime.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:57 PM
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15. So True n/t
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 04:03 PM
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16. And yet most hospital around here in Michigan are expanding the use of checklists.
Maybe if it's not a study they can just say it's a change in policy.

Lord, that decision is stupid. Saving lives by properly following procedures already in place with a checklist and nurses to make sure doctors comply is not at all like using a new drug. The procedures were already there--drape the whole patient before inserting lines, wash hands, wash the patient down with the right stuff, use only new and sterile needles and lines--so how's that new?
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 08:43 PM
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17. The whole thing is stupid...
Use the checklist, save lives, What's the big deal? Its common sense, in Repub thinking, if its good and it works, stop it.
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