Obama can't have it both ways when it comes to change

[journalist3072]

It's occurred to me that Obama is trying to have it both ways, when it comes to the issue of change.

On the one hand, he's trying to portray himself as a change agent. He says he doesn't want to "refight the battles of the 90s."

Yet on the other hand, he's trying to lay claim to Bill Clinton's legacy.

In fact, in preparation for one of the debates this year, the Obama camp studied Bill Clinton's debate tapes from the 1992 campaign:

From an MSNBC article:

As Sen. Barack Obama prepared for Tuesday night’s crucial NBC debate in Philadelphia, his high command back in Chicago was watching a lot of old Clinton videotape — not of Hillary Clinton, but of Bill, and not of Bill as president, but of Bill as a fresh-faced candidate of 46 (which happens to be Obama’s age) in 1991 and 1992.

“You know, I look at Clinton back then, and I find a lot I agree with,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s media adviser. “He said things Barack is saying now.”

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21536415/

Then, there's also the issue of Obama bragging about the number of people from the Clinton administration who have endorsed his candidacy:

From an Associated Press article:

Barack Obama suggested Friday that he has more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration backing his candidacy over Hillary Rodham Clinton's, but lists provided by both campaigns show hers is nearly twice as long.

Clinton's campaign provided more than 80 names of her husband's former foreign policy advisers who are publicly backing her, while Obama's campaign provided 47.

Asked how Obama backs up the claim of greater support, campaign spokesman Bill Burton said the senator was referring to an article that ran in The New York Times Magazine last month, which quoted an anonymous foreign policy expert saying most of the community was backing Obama.

Obama's comment, at a campaign stop with just 13 days until Iowa's presidential caucus, came in response to a questioner who asked him to compare his foreign policy vision with the former first lady's.

"In fact, you could argue that there are more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration supporting me than Senator Clinton," Obama said. He added that "should raise some pretty interesting questions."

Source: http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071222/NEWS81/278243901/-1/CITNEWS0806


So which is it, Obama? You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to be an agent of change and make statements about not wanting to refight the battles of the 90's, which trying to pattern yourself after him in the debates, and claiming that more officials from his Administration support you than Sen. Clinton.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Don't you think...

That three posts of the same message, not in GD: P, but GD, is more than a bit...excessive. Not to mention intemperate?

[journalist3072]

2. Obama can't have it both ways when it comes to change

It's occurred to me that Obama is trying to have it both ways, when it comes to the issue of change.

On the one hand, he's trying to portray himself as a change agent. He says he doesn't want to "refight the battles of the 90s."

Yet on the other hand, he's trying to lay claim to Bill Clinton's legacy.

In fact, in preparation for one of the debates this year, the Obama camp studied Bill Clinton's debate tapes from the 1992 campaign:

From an MSNBC article:

As Sen. Barack Obama prepared for Tuesday night’s crucial NBC debate in Philadelphia, his high command back in Chicago was watching a lot of old Clinton videotape — not of Hillary Clinton, but of Bill, and not of Bill as president, but of Bill as a fresh-faced candidate of 46 (which happens to be Obama’s age) in 1991 and 1992.

“You know, I look at Clinton back then, and I find a lot I agree with,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s media adviser. “He said things Barack is saying now.”

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21536415/

Then, there's also the issue of Obama bragging about the number of people from the Clinton administration who have endorsed his candidacy:

From an Associated Press article:

Barack Obama suggested Friday that he has more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration backing his candidacy over Hillary Rodham Clinton's, but lists provided by both campaigns show hers is nearly twice as long.

Clinton's campaign provided more than 80 names of her husband's former foreign policy advisers who are publicly backing her, while Obama's campaign provided 47.

Asked how Obama backs up the claim of greater support, campaign spokesman Bill Burton said the senator was referring to an article that ran in The New York Times Magazine last month, which quoted an anonymous foreign policy expert saying most of the community was backing Obama.

Obama's comment, at a campaign stop with just 13 days until Iowa's presidential caucus, came in response to a questioner who asked him to compare his foreign policy vision with the former first lady's.

"In fact, you could argue that there are more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration supporting me than Senator Clinton," Obama said. He added that "should raise some pretty interesting questions."

Source: http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071222/NEWS81/278243901/-1/CITNEWS0806


So which is it, Obama? You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to be an agent of change and make statements about not wanting to refight the battles of the 90's, which trying to pattern yourself after him in the debates, and claiming that more officials from his Administration support you than Sen. Clinton.

[pearl]

3. False Choice

and false premise

[peacebaby3]

4. Oh my! Agenda anyone? LOL!!! n/t

[babylonsister]

5. No joke, and three times! Special. nt

[peacebaby3]

7. Yes, I saw that. My favorite is still the arrogant tone of the Obama

campaign caller. It only got one thread...go figure.

[marmar]

6. But Bill Clinton the visionary candidate.....

.... and Bill Clinton the compromised president are different. So looking at it purely from that perspective, I get why Obama would view his 1992 campaigning tapes.
Bill Clinton was the best campaigner of the modern era - A better candidate than he was a president. (Not that he was a bad president, but as a campaigner, he was without peer.)

[msongs]

8. he certainly changed his wife's INCOME after he was elected senator nt