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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:40 AM
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New "Volunteer Army Corp" - could this be related to the guest worker program?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:45 AM
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1. No- It was a nice way of calling for
Volunteer Army (civilian) Corp = domestic mercenaries
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:46 AM
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2. fasttense made a good point about it in another thread.
Here: The poor and middle class are no doubt the victims of this plan.

But they are doing it to bust the government workers union and to get cheap labor for military subcontractors.

It is also a way to force feed young people with propaganda, much like Hitler did before WWII was started.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=25353&mesg_id=25399
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:49 AM
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3. I thought it may have something to do with Blackwater.
There was some talk about this last night....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3073619


:shrug: ...I don't know either.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:52 AM
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4. An expedited path to US citizenship? Interesting question...
At the nexus of the Guest Worker Program and the "War is Peace Corps" - is there an expedited path to US citizenship?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:53 AM
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5. My impression is that it's a step away from a draft, a way to
get volunteers vs. making it mandatory.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:00 AM
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6. you mean hire them as cooks and then put them on the front line? eom
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:27 AM
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9. No, not cooks. Here's the quote:
"" A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps. Such a corps would function much like our military reserve. It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time.""

Civilians with critical skills to serve, for free (I'm assuming; volunteers), abroad. I suppose cooks might fall into that category, though I don't think that's what they have in mind.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:38 AM
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10. what skills do you think they have in mind? obviously,
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 11:38 AM by ellenfl
my thought was support staff . . . cooks, clerks, laundry, etc.

ellen fl
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:12 PM
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11. I'm thinking critical skills as being doctors, nurses, EMTs, lawyers,
a whole host of professionally trained people. But that's just a wild guess.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:22 PM
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16. i don't see professionals leaving even fairly decent jobs
in the u.s. for what you are suggesting. especially not in a war zone. what's the payoff?

ellen fl
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:08 AM
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7. Does volunteer mean for free? We already have a volunteer Army so how would this be any dif
different.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:11 AM
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8. Ever hear of the old Bait & Switch?
In this case the bait "Volunteer Army Corp" is switched to just plain "Army Corp".
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:24 PM
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12. more likely just a cover for halliburton
currently the bushies are outsourcing "civilian" type work to companies like Halliburton.

as we know this the no-bid contracts are coming under serious scrutiny/investigation - I expect, at the minimum, many of these companies will be losing their contracts

if and when this happens, there will be a "vacuum" that needs to be filled. So, you create a "civilian" version, call it whatever and sub-contract it out to companies like halliburton
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:25 PM
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13. That statement sent shivers down my spine
:scared:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:28 PM
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14. Bush misses an opportunity with this one.
There are two major things wrong with it. 1 is he makes it sound military. It shouldn't be military based. The second is that it's a temporary program. It should be an ongoing voluntary program. It's probably not as nearly rewarding as it needs to be as well.
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SanCristobal Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:31 PM
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15. Am I the only person here who uses Google?
The Civilian Reserve thing is a way for the Military to get civilian employees to fill jobs the military isn't good at or doesn't do. The civilian reservists will volunteer to serve for up to a years deployment and be paid on the Federal pay scale. This is most likely an outline of the plan: http://proceedings.ndia.org/6100/russell.pdf

Also, Bush took this from Clark. The Civilian Reserve was part of his 2004 presidential platform: http://www.clark04.com/misc/003/
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