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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:22 PM
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Tweety "Hillary's tears struck at the heart of women and they went out and voted for her"
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 07:25 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
Is that right ladies? You went in all weepy and emotional to pull the lever for poor crying Hillary, you couldn't help yourselves then you all went home to watch Oprah.

I thought it was about NH voters getting pissed off at the MSM for trying to savage the female candidate they hate out of the race after one state caucus. Tweety set me right.

:shrug:

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:23 PM
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1. He's full of shit, and a sexist.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:28 PM
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2. Her campaign said that's what happened
Ann Lewis said this morning that people connected with her in that moment, Howard Wolfson said it last night. That's what the media reported yesterday, was how humanizing that moment was. He's just saying what her campaign wants said. Good grief.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:31 PM
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4. saying it helped her connect isn't the same as saying it led to a win. Only anger could do that
not a "humanizing moment" over misty eyes. Anger motivated those people.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:38 PM
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6. So isn't anger an emotion?
It's still saying women voted on emotion and gender, which is just stupid and embarrassing.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:58 PM
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9. Sending a message to the media is legitimate vote if candidates are similar, pity for tears isn't.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:01 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
If all three candidates are similar which I think they are then changing your vote or deciding to vote to send a message to lying media that hates Democrats and is trying to eliminate a candidate after one primary is a rational vote.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:06 PM
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10. No it's not, it's a ridiculous assertion
Women, en masse, did not waste their Presidential primary vote to send a message to the media. And if it was all about the media not coronating a candidate, then what about men, why didn't they do the same. Maybe New England women relate to Hillary where women in the rest of the country just don't. Ever think of that?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM
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24. Yes it is the same.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 PM
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20. Asked if that tearful moment helped win the women's vote in NH
Clinton's senior adviser Ann Lewis said: "I know it, but I can't prove it."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0922696520080109
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:28 PM
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3. If I were in New Hampshire, it would be more of a "pissed off"
reaction than a pity vote.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:33 PM
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5. Well Tweety said "you females" voted on pity so who are you to question
:sarcasm:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:42 PM
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7. If people listen when people in the State speak--they might
learn something.

Day before Yesterday, The Top Election official, explaining the NH
History regarding being first in the nation----Plainly Stated.ThePEPPLE
OF NH TAKE THIS VERY SERIOULY. This year on both sides the winner will
be the person most able and qualified to president immediately. He did
not name names.

It seems the vote bears out his prediction. John McCain and Hilary Clinton

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:44 PM
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8.  Oh yes, It was reported that some of the colleges were
closed and on break. STudents did not return to vote. This is
by a Reporter from NH on Hardball.
Young people have done this before.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:21 PM
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13. Who is the top election official in NH?
And what is the top election official doing manipulating an election that way. :shrug:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:09 PM
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11. Well, if Tweety said it
I will bow to his years of expertise as a woman.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:12 PM
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12. I would never ever vote for someone based on whether or not they cried or pretended to.....
.... but the issue of the crying is tiresome and repetitive in more than one scenario. Regardless of the reason H. Clinton may have given the crying impression, I've heard men say that crying has no place at work. Well maybe it's time it did. In fact, if it did have a place at work things would not be as fucked up as they are in this country today.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:37 PM
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14. What a bunch of crap! nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:42 PM
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15. Hillary herself believes this. So does her husband.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:43 PM by bigtree
“I had this incredible moment of connection with the voters of New Hampshire and they saw it and they heard it. And they gave me this incredible victory last night,” she said during an interview with CBS. Analysis of exit polls from New Hampshire showed that women voters, traditionally her most loyal supporters, flooded back after deserting her for Barack Obama in last week's Iowa caucuses. Mr Obama narrowly edged Mrs Clinton for the female vote in Iowa primary last week but yesterday she enjoyed a clear 13-point lead.

Stunned aides savouring Mrs Clinton’s victory credited the “humanising” effect of the coffee shop incident as well as her performance in Saturday’s candidate debate in which she passionately defended her own record in office against Mr Obama's "message of change".

“They watched that debate. I think they saw Hillary Clinton and she contrasted the records. And I think the humanising moment yesterday, I think that’s what did it,” the Clinton campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, told MSNBC.

Bill Clinton too credited the brief glimpse of his wife's vulnerable side for her unexpected win. "People saw who she was," he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3160177.ece
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:48 PM
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16. They are using it to increase her likability, also they don't want to bash the media
but they know what's what
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:51 PM
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17. The leader of the free world is being chosen over a coffee shop incident.. and somewhere
in a corporate boardroom, or in the Clinton war room.. people are laughing.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:01 PM
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21. "people are laughing"
No truer words were ever spoken.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:51 PM
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18. I think the swing voters in NH..
.... had to decide between a white woman and a black man and they chose white.

It doesn't matter, fortunately NH does not get the last word.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 PM
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19. I saw no tears.
The vid clips I saw had no tears. :shrug:
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:05 PM
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22. Right, NO TEARS. Just a feeling of an overwheling sadness, and could have been on the brink....
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:34 PM
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30. Did you mean overwhelming?
I did not see overwhelming either. Sadness? OK, but to say she was crying is to lie. welling up with tears is an exaggeration. I just see a lot of bullshit in this story. M$M bullshit.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM
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23. I used to sort of like Tweety...
Then it went to not so much. As he continued on my sort of liking has devolved into a distaste of him. He's a pig.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:15 PM
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27. Actually, Tweety is a schizophrenic pig.
Poor little pig .. doesn't know whether to shit or go blind.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:15 PM
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28. rofl n/t
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:10 PM
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25. I think my wife changed her mind because of this clip.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 PM
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26. Tweety is only saying in a sexist tone what Clinton has said herserlf.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 PM by Political Heretic
That moment (whatever you want to call it) caused her to "connect" which caused her to gain support and momentum.

All you people talking about the MSM trying to "savage" Hillary make me want to drop into hysterical fits of laughter. For well over a YEAR The MSM has done nothing but preach the inevitability of a Clinton nomination. Now because their ratings magnet briefly changes from that to the Obama phenominon they all hate her and our out to get her?

PUH-LEEZE.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:16 PM
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29. I like what Rachel Maddow said on her show today.
She said that in her opinion, the women who decided to vote for her at the last minute were doing it to defend her because she was getting piled on by the media (whereas Mittens and Bush I and Bush II, and any other man who actually cries are untouchable by said media).

She said she thought it was more an angry response at the media, NOT an "Oh, that poor woman, she's crying" kind of thing.

And Rachel wasn't saying that that was the only reason. She was just addressing that one point, and I agree with her.

That piling on shit pissed me off too.

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