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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:47 AM
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Who do you think appeals to "Independents" better, Obama or McCain?
I think McCain.

A culture of fear has been soo groomed in our society that I'm not sure if a man like Obama could make Independents feel safe.

Notice how it has been relatively quiet as far as scary news from Iraq, or new threats of terrorism...anything that might jack up the level of fear in this country to want to make people gravitate to the perceived stronger party on matters of national defense (although that point is debatable at this juncture in our history)..Because when you boil it down, that's really all the republican party has going for it - FEAR. They have nothing else.

I expect them to use that card as well as race, playing to the worst in all of us to further destroy this country as we know it.

I like Edwards/Kucinich but I'll vote for any Democrat that wins the nomination. If Obama wins the nomination, I hope he's ready for the onslaught of fear and bigotry that will be coming down the pike.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:50 AM
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1. He's a Republican...
I think people will look back at the last seven years and see the difference betwwen McCain and Obama.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:51 AM
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2. safety was so 2004. this year its all Getting out of Iraq.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:57 AM
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3. He's a reupublican. The other repubs aren't.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:58 AM
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4. McCain, a so-called moderate Republican on social issues, with
serious protect the USA credentials, i.e. the only thing wrong with the Invasion of Iraq is that we didn't go in with overwhelming force. Obama will appear to be a "tender and callow fellow" youngster next to this guy.

We are being set-up by so-called "Independents" and cross-overs who are manipulating a BUNCH of newbies.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:27 AM
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7. McCain's a RWers through & through
he's just less extreme than most of his fellow Republicans, so it just seems like he's moderate.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:53 AM
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11. True. We are the "Middle".
What's called "Liberal" is reall more the average on a lot of issues. That makes the "Right" even more extreme and that's a word our candidates should use at every opportunity.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:04 AM
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5. Sorry to say . McCain.
He put on that McCain / Feingold stchick. People think he's a friendly face. Less partisan. What crap. He's a bush hugger. / But, still unfortunately, when too many Americans get into that polling place, their hidden racism wins out.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:12 AM
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14. Agree with you n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:09 AM
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6. In NH it would seem to be Obama
Republicans slightly outnumber Democrats as declared registered voters in NH yet Obama outpolled McCain. I'd say that, despite the media spin of a crushing loss for Obama and a triumphant return for McCain, indicates that the GOP currently is toast no matter who they manage to run.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:30 AM
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8. Edwards nt
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:34 AM
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9. It depends on where Iraq is
McCain is married to Iraq, and if that is a big issue in the election, than I think Obama can exploit it to win. On the other hand if it is just a generalized war on terror, well it would be a lot harder for Obama.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:36 AM
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10. McCain is the most Bushlike candidate they have. Obama would definitely beat him.
But Clinton probably wouldn't since she would have Bloomberg and Nader to deal with as well.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:56 AM
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12. My "Independent" brother-in-law in NH who usually votes DEM
voted for McCain in the primary there on tuesday. I have no idea why, my sister just told me this yesterday. :shrug:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:03 AM
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13. McCain has high favorables among Democrats as well as
Independents. Independents in NH broke McCain and kept Obama
from getting the high numbers first thought. Schneider, CN
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:22 AM
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15. EDWARDS!!!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:36 AM
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16. Obama will take the Indies--not worried.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:38 AM
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17. As a de facto Independent, I don't like either of them.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:39 AM
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18. Obama gives the possiblity of history making....
And I think some independents--so long as they aren't ugly racists--might just vote for Obama just because they want to say they were part in electing the first black president.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:51 AM
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19. Kucinich !








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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:00 PM
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20. Talked to one last night !
And from a republican area.

ON the gop side, it's McCain, on the Democrat side, It's Clinton. The reason is the War on Terror and International politics, torture issues. Doesn't think Obama is up to par on that. Other then that, likes Obama. If it's down to McCain and Obama, the vote would be McCain. If it's McCain and Clinton, it will be Clinton. McCain is the only GOP of interest for this person. Loves McCain's responses on the water board question. Because of McCain's military and POW experience, etc.. Believes McCain is up to par on this persons issues of interests. Doesn't like Edwards, says he is to hyper. <eyeroll>

Of course, it's months yet, but that is this persons thinking as of this week and for those reasons.

The voter in question is a non-racist female. So Obama's skin color or Clinton being a woman isn't an issue with the voter.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:14 PM
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22. Oh, I forgot
The voter wants the troops out. But is smart enough to know we have a situation there now, (that we CAUSED), hence, impossible for a quick withdraw. Such a quick withdraw would be extreamly harmful for the innocents there. In issues dealing with 'innocents', this person leans highly left. The voter liked Clinton's comments last year for a realistic type of withdawal. That she (Clinton) admited that such a withdraw would take time, etc. But the voter is now concerned that Clinton said she would withdraw the troops 60 days of taking office. The voter believes that would be harmful to the folks there.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:05 PM
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21. Huckabee is the real threat--he's very charming in persona and most people won't look
at his batshit RRR record.

McCain's my senator and he's got enough skeletons in his closet tokeep US medical schools supplied for the next century. He'll lose yet again.

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