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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:21 PM
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SMILE.........I THINK THEY CAN HEAR US
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 12:40 PM by seemslikeadream
Why would an audacious underground filmmaker choose the year 2007 to release a highly personal work about the missing memoirs of a nineteenth-century rural anarchist woman and the compulsive diggings of a Korean war veteran obsessed with hidden treasure?





http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1138908.stm


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353&q=spin&total=137490&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1




http://brianholmes.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/field-of-homespun-dreams/
Why would an audacious underground filmmaker choose the year 2007 to release a highly personal work about the missing memoirs of a nineteenth-century rural anarchist woman and the compulsive diggings of a Korean war veteran obsessed with hidden treasure? Where’s the relation between this allegorical tale and the author’s earlier work with satellite TV? And what’s really buried beneath the tranquil fields of southern Missouri? These are the questions that come to mind upon viewing Brian Springer’s new film, The Disappointment: Or, the Force of Credulity.

Springer is known across the horizons of electronic media art for one good reason: the 1995 documentary Spin. The work is based on 500 hours of raw news feeds, captured with off-the-shelf satellite dishes at a time before the transmissions were encrypted. Springer blew the minds of a generation of media activists by documenting the 1992 US presidential campaign from between the scenes, while the cameras were still rolling during commercial breaks. Live interviews from the sky were new back then, and corporate PR-men were avidly selling advice on how to use them. “This is great, I love these,” confesses Bill Clinton with a puppy-dog grin. “Can we do any more?” he asks his technician between whistle stops on a satellite tour.

Spin pointed to the open window of technological and organizational change at a moment when the scramble for globalized markets left gaping holes in all kinds of security systems. Soon afterwards, activists in disguise like the Yes Men would step through those gaps and create their own public twists on world events, relying on a knowledge of complex networking processes that the corporate powers did not yet fully control. The montage structure of the film allowed Springer to weave an intricate portrait of America’s corrupted democracy just after the first salvos of the Revolution in Military Affairs had exploded in the Persian Gulf, ushering in the “New World Order” that was supposed to replace the outdated certainties of the Cold War. The material from the satellite dishes was seemingly infinite; but closure finally came through a focus on the doctored truths and outright lies of the campaign.

Revelations abound in this unique document, but the most telltale scene is probably the whispered dialogue between Larry King and Bush Senior about their favorite sleeping pills. It was a touchy subject for Bush, after his nightmare episode, deftly censored from the TV broadcasts, of vomiting on the Japanese prime minister while under a sedative. In between rounds of pre-broadcast applause, King explains that his brother has gotten wind of a new tranquilizer coming down the pipe. Bush says “Great” – and that’s all anyone knows about it. As though the much-touted “end of history” in the 1990s had left an unanswered question: What ruffles the chemical haze of the world-makers’ sedated nights? And do phantom spin-doctors whisper their lines to the unlaid ghosts of the American dream?



The Disappointment: Or, The Force of Credulity


Brief Synopsis:

The Disappointment: Or, The Force of Credulity is adocumentary/musical/fairytale that explores the legacyof 19th century U.S. anarchism, treasure hunting andspiritualist folk lore through the story of the Springer family's decades-long search for buried Spanish treasure in the caves of Missouri. The video project grounds the family's personal history of treasure-hunting into an expanded social/post-colonial context by exploring the repressed histories of aseries of atrocities as they reappear transfigured, displaced and disguised in contemporary notions of "discovery." The Disappointment places pressure not just on notions of documentary truth but also on the contested line between legitimated and non-legitimated 'popular' knowledges and beliefs.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2649273562390177070&q=The+Disappointment%3A+Or%2C+the+Force+of+Credulity.&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1





The Disappointment: Or, The Force of Credulity

The first censored play in American history






I have been lost for a very long time…
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:42 PM
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1. maybe someone would like to watch tonight?
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:27 PM
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2. i'll watch it,but not right now.
K.O. is on.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:39 PM
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3. kick
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:32 PM
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4. Very good movie so far.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:36 PM
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5. Watch both of them they are excellent
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:23 AM
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11. I'm downloading right now so I can watch it again but in a larger
window.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:15 PM
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6. Thanks, Dreamy. Pat Robertson's off-feed discussion with his toady is priceless.


Freaked out when I heard Poppy wonder if Saddam was listening. Seeing the wimp get made up was priceless. Hearing old Bushusuru discuss sleeping pills with Larry King was frightening.

Absolutely fascinating film. I'm all of five minutes into it.

Thanks 'Dreamy for cluing me in on this treasure trove of an idea.

Babs. Take 6.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:18 PM
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7. You've got to watch this one also
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 11:20 PM by seemslikeadream
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM
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9. Geebush. How did you find these obtuse things?


Larry King saying Mr. Ted Turner is a good guy to work for made me, as a broke-down paper pusher, feel good.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:23 AM
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10. if the shoe fits
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:55 AM
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13. The family, the church and the state are forces of goodness.
Don't wriggle free.



The JFK Assassination:

A False Mystery Concealing State Crimes


by Vincent J. Salandria

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/27th_Issue/vs_text.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:33 PM
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26. Any info on The Creature?


One would think such an archaeological oddity would engender more interest -- at least on the part of the scientific community.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:19 PM
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8. K&R
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:27 AM
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12. Me too
Will check them out.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:58 AM
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14. K & R for now... off to watch. Thanks SLAD
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:02 AM
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15. Kick + Rec Thanks nt
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:23 AM
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16. Larry Agran -- the Dennis Kucinich of 1992
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 01:24 AM by BushDespiser12
Completely shunned by the media... half way through "Spin" now.

Wow!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:30 AM
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17. EXACTLY
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:04 AM
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21. Mr. Orwell was quite the prophet....
on to the next vid.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:30 AM
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18. Oh, enlightened viewing for the mind/soul. Will watch this weekend..
thank you SO much ! Recommend !
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:40 AM
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19. Just incredible
Thanks for the link. I wish it was longer though! Fascinating :)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:43 AM
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20. Make sure you watch both videos
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:18 AM
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22. I will come back tomorrow for round two
Thanks for the links! :hug:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:40 AM
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23. Facinating! Thank you! K and R
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:47 AM
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24. k&r
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:03 AM
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25. What an interesting piece
Spin was good too. Thnak :)
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