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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:35 PM Original message |
Dennis Kucinich - A Kitty Genovese for Our Time |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Whitney leaves out the fact that the Rich and the powerful |
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RevolutionToday (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. The Comparison Is Pretty Off The Wall Don't You Think? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. I'm thinking the same thing |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. You make some good points, but comparing him to |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I am saying that part of our political process is being mugged and we are bystanding. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. LOL, a brutal murder analogy is nuance? on what planet is that? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. I got it. It was not difficult. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Doh! Omigod, I thought he was LITERALLY talking about MURDERING KUCINCH... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Sorry, but as a woman |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Could you unpack "insensitive"? As I said below (#39, #43)... |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I am saying that we are cowering while one of our own is being politically knifed. n/t |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Its much more insidious than that... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. And Kucinich supporters never attack Clinton or Obama? |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Come back to me when they are out there putting their careers on the line in the name of democracy |
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wintersoulja (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. yep |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Kucinich is a hero |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
75. I whole heartedly agree. This really isn't about Kucinich people, |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. One idea that caught my eye in this information, was the |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Ding. Ding. Ding. We have someone who gets it! Thank you. n/t |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Arendt's analogy is SPOT ON. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Oh, right, Wexler. I signed that when it was under 100k sigs. What do I do now? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
83. no, we ALL will reap what they have sown. nt |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well done! |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Wonderful Post |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R.... I got the nuance...and metaphor... Spot on... |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. k&r |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. To listen to Dennis would require people to give up the |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. But once that step is taken, you can't go back..... |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. I thought you explained the 'constitutional-by-standerism' |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. As someone with middle-class finances, I don't have the reserves needed to withstand... |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Nor do I... |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Thanks. I always try to educate; and I appreciate posts that educate me. The web is awesome... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. You're saying what Pastor Niemöller said |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Yes. I referenced him in the OP. n/t |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So you did! I even read that, but for some reason it didn't connect. Sorry! (nt) |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. too old to rock&roll, too young to die |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. His approach would have a chance if others believed in what |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. I wasn't aware that Kitty Genovese was polling at 2% |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
31. Great post. What's being done to Dennis is sick, |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Will they speak up when its Edward's turn?? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Edwards' supporters are already getting a little taste of |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. No. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Why do so many DUers have a problem with METAPHOR? n/t |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Well, for me because it's a bad one and it belittles the death of Kity Genovese. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Belittle? How? I showed no disrespect. In fact, had I been in NY in 1964, and done nothing... |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Sir, I meant no insult and did not mean to state you are disrespecting the death of Genovese. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. OK. I beleive you had good intentions. I'll make the metaphor concrete. |
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kas125 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. but it IS a death. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Miss, I don't know the america you write of. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Because so many DU'ers are not a fan of Kucinich and they know no other thing to whine about. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It scares me too DutchLiberal. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Ditto you guys...on all counts. n/t |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
74. Because there are a lot of dumb asses on DU these days? |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
45. What Dennis does, we must all do. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. Don't you see, arendt? |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Notice how it ALWAYS comes back to the perception management matrix? |
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RadioactiveCarrot (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thank you for writing this. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Welcome to DU RadioactiveCarrot. Clearly, you have excellent taste in writers. Arendt is the best. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. We agree |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Welcome to DU, RadioactiveCarrot. |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
48. At last we have a name for the paralysis, the manifestation... |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. arendt- don't waste your breath (or ink) on fools. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Hi, BHN. Thanks for the support. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
55. Recommend #28 and proud of it. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. I appreciate Dennis. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
59. thanks again for yet another outstanding post |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Yeah, but we can quibble all day whether or not my analogy was "appropriate" or "insensitive"... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
63. I love your writing, Arendt! I'm always delighted to see a (too rare) post from you. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I write, mostly, to keep my sanity - by hearing responses from people like you |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I'm very grateful that you write -- even though I think that "sanity" is probably overrated. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Simulacrum - another book I have to read... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. How I plan to survive? I don't need much. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. wow! great planning! wish i'd done that. nt |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. You Dennis fans just can't get over the fact that he's an irrelevant worthless prat. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Thank you for your thoughtful analysis of our current political/media paradigm! |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You can't seem to read. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Oh yes, there is a thoughtful American-Idol-fan-of-politics contribution. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #68 |
85. not just ignoring the crime... |
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idiocracyhell (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
73. Your powerful metaphor was insightful |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
78. You should be ashamed of yourself |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. This is so confusing... |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I was quoting you |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
79. Why not support him? At the very least, he pushes all the other candidates-- |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
80. arendt you are so right.... |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
86. thank you, arendt. |
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