Being an early boomer , Obamas statements are very upsetting

[blues90]

Just to bring up Reagan the calif governer who wanted a blood bath on the hippy protestors , the freak who de-regulated everything and brought us the trickle down economics and closed mental institutions tossing thousands into the streets . Has anyone seen the money trickle down ?

What we don't need for any reason what so ever is to breath life back into Reagan and the horror show he brought with him .

We also don't need corporate backed presidential hopefuls , this will only mean more of the same if in fact we even survive until the next election , many won't , many have lost their lives already and many have been suffering since Reagan destroyed this country .

Certainly Clinton was far from perfect but at least we were finally pulling out of Reagans crap and here we are again hearing the insane political values of Reagan bellowed from a coffin .

We will have to begin tent cities and communes just to survive this or find ourselves in a room at a detention center if this continues on as it is .

The job market can't even be called a job market with the low paying jobs that are out there and even these are at a stall .

I picture a huge bath tub with all the money men sitting in it high above the people at the bottom and Edwards and Kucinich grasping Obamas ankles while shoving his head through the bottom of the tub and all the horded money falling back in the hands of the people it was stolen from .

[hedgehog]

1. About those money men you mention........

90 percent of Obama's donors contributed $100 or less



http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Story?id=3008821&page=2


You will find other places where they say most of the money came from people donating $1000 or more. Just remember that it only takes one person donating $1000 to match 40 people donating $25 each. It's sort of like when the right wingers say that the rich pay most of the taxes in this country. I'm sure that when Warren Buffet pays at a 5% rate he's still pays a lot more than a huindred other people paying at a 30% rate.

[blues90]

3. How does this relate to Obama bring back Reagan ?

You can't tell me that sice Obama and Hillary are the main picks and have been since the begining that this is simply coincidence . Why are Kucinich and Edwards left out , the msm is running this show .

Obama is not a true Dem nore is Hillary .

I am bugged why Obama decided to toss his hat in the ring , he came out of nowhere and suddenly he is running for president , this seems to be his life long goal not a sudden decision .

The entire thing stinks , but to bring Reagan up as some great clairity and mover and shaker is beyond freaky . Great way to get the same reagan people back in power since most falling for this didn't experience reagans wrath .

[snagglepuss]

13. Well said.

:applause:

[baldguy]

2. Like it or not, Reagan & his minions had - & still have - an enormous influence on American politics

Disproportionately so. They literally changed the course of American history. To ignore that fact is to allow them TO CONTINUE to influence American politics.

In no way was Obama praising Reagan's policies - he was just acknowledging his influence & talking about the need to make a course correction AWAY from Reagan's policies back toward the mainstream.

[tyne]

4. IMO

Anyone that cannot (or refuses) to grasp the intention of Obama's reference to Reagan needs to become a Bush conservative.

[stravu9]

5. Real Mature.

Obama KNEW he was stirring the pot when he made that statement.
This divides and weakens the Party.
How is that good leadership?

[snagglepuss]

14. And if he didn't know it'd be divisive, he is clueless.

[bobbolink]

6. Hey, great! Half or more of DU will become "bush conservatives"!! That's the ticket!

That'll save the country for shure, man!

Great idea, and I hope you have more like that, and enjoy watching your country plunge into the crapper!

:yourock:

[blues90]

9. Cannot or refuses ?

I is you who cannot understand language and refuses to see the insanity in invoking the spirit of Reagan . Praise the lord , Reagan rises from the dead , it's a miracle !

[blues90]

7. If this was Obamas intent then he chose all the wrong words

Because the impression many got who are not idiots was what Obama said , this makes Obama not a great relator but an un prepaired fool .

It was not clear to me he was against reagan and to use Reagan as an example was a bad choice at best .

What most people are reminded of when the name Reagan is used is the damage done , not some great leader .

Anyone can try to spin Obamas words and intent into anything they desire , problem is the words and the way Obama related and compared them cannot be spun . Aren't people sick of the spinning and then the back stepping , I know I am and this is enough for me to have absolutely no trust in Obama , he was pandering and this is bad enough no matter what he meant to say , he failed . It's the same as using Hitler as an example .

[EFerrari]

12. Actually, he does seem to be praising Reagan's ability to

manipulate the American public via message.

Obama, whether it was his intent or not, is bolstering the myth of St. Ronnie -- who is still even after all these years, one of the most hated men all around the world.

That argues a narrowness of outlook on Obama's part.

[Gman]

8. When they do the roll call vote of the states at the convention

and at the point when Hillary goes over the top, we can look back at this moment when Obama gave the nomination to Hillary because either 1) he really is a whole lot more conservative than anyone realizes or 2) he's stupid.

[Faux pas]

10. The country hasn't recover from raygun yet. Something is wrong

with Obama if he wants to haul him out of the grave. I think Obama has some kind of God complex thing going on (we already have on of those in the WH thank you) and I think people better start looking past that well polished veneer of his. Danger Will Robinson.

[snagglepuss]

15. As a Canuck I thank the lord I don't have to endure a seemingly unending

parade of politicians who can't keep their religiousity tucked in their pants. I can't believe that any dems swoon over someone who yet again playing the religious card. Don't people learn. :freak:

[Faux pas]

18. Yes, you should be extremely thankful. I'd move up your way

if I had the funds. This country has gone way beyond insane and not enough people are paying close enough attention.

[kineneb]

11. Raygun was just another puppet corporate shill

He made a hash of California, and then f***ed up the entire country. And the jolly little bones he threw out to the milita/neo-nazi groups (Bittburg) should not be forgotten, either.

[1awake]

16. look,

self delete

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

17. I'm in the same boat

I was leaning towards Obama. Now I'm starting to feel like a voter with no candidate to support. I find serious fault with the major three Democratic candidates and I'm having a hard time supporting any of them now. Edwards and Clinton supported the Iraq war and that issue was my main reason for supporting Obama. But if Obama holds anything, even the slightest thing about Reagan as a role model, then that's just about as bad to me. It's devastating to me.

[SoxFan]

19. As a Gen Xer

I ask that you read what Obama actually said before going off on a rant like this.

[blues90]

20. I've read it and heard all the sound clips

look , I understand the english language , the difference is my mind is not so closed and dedicated to one candidate that I can be brainwashed to believe something other than what I hear and see .

There is not one candidate that I can't find things I don't dissagree with .

It's not going to be who is the best speaker or who did what in the past in their personal lifes . This is exactly how we got to where we are now by putting all faith in one person and words and buying into what the media sells as if this is some sort of truth .

Hell most people don't even know their family members very well or their friends or partners in life .

If a candidate cannot stand alone and speak the truth without some self comparison to someone in the past then they are not the real deal .

First Obama is JFK then RFK then MLK now it's Reagan who changed the world with clarity and promise , so who is Obama really .

The entire point is using reagan as any sort of comparison no matter what Obamas intent was it was the wrong person to use unless his hope was to appeal to people who do not remember Reagan .

Obama starts out with the 60's and 70's and execessive then jumps right into how Reagan tamped down these unexplained excessives then goes right into what a great job Reagan did to change this . well the result of Reagans changes are still here and we are still paying for them dearly . Who on earth would use a president who did nothing but damage as an example of success ?

Hitler was a success too .