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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:20 AM Original message |
Does the union of a man and woman deserve a special place in our society... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. ? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I assume it means calling the male/female union marriage. nt. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. That's not a place, it's a word, and it should not be unique to heterosexual unions, no. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. And I love the subtext of the thread here: "...but it's for the children!" |
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blondie58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. well, then shouldn't those of us who are raising children alone |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. If you need to create a special place for such a union it must not be very special. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Or UNION, for that matter? That's anything from one night stand to live in arrangement |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. Britney Spears and Kevin Federline. Of course they deserve a "special place". (nt) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. People who rear children have a special place: parenthood. |
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Ferret Annica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. In relation to what? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
6. If you're asking if it's okay with us to discriminate against gays/lesbians and their partners, NO. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. Maybe child rearing does |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. You aren't referring to a Constitutional Ammendment that marriage should only be between a |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. no. nt. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. good /nt |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not if I'm to be expected to pay for it somehow. nt |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
15. amazing how many families have children and do not have |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. seems a logical starting point |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. agreed, its because of discrimination (and ignorance) |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. i had no intention of breeding either |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. and that makes you person |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm not assuming you'll change your mind |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. sorry |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I remember |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. every one deserves |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes. My bedroom. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Motel 6? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. no |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. should we repeal all of DOMA or just the parts Hillary wants to repeal? |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
21. It doesn't seem that a huge amount of people think it's that special, |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
23. Sure, we don't want them to do it in public. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
26. I would say that the family unit does, yes |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
31. kick for some morning opinions. nt. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
32. Marriage should not be seen solely in terms of procreating |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
33. The union of any two people |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. No. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
35. we have that special place - divorce court |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
36. It deserves an "equal place" to the union of 2 men or 2 women...nt |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
37. To tell you the truth... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. civil rights are at the bottom of your concerns? why? nt. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. No. I posted "gay rights" is at the bottom of my concerns (issues). |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Then you don't know what civil rights are. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Oh really? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yes, really. And it's not MY definition. Application of equal protection is a civil right. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Uhh, Yes, Really. "Gay Rights" IS MOST DEFNITELY |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. So you don't think not being able to your loved ones in their last moment on Earth... |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I think the real problem with this issue is the definiton and application of the term "marriage". |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. But they're not, and the inequality violates equal protection. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Well you have to somehow define who the next of kin is |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. What about single people? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Your next of kin, or your designee. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Your parents, your kids, and if you don't have those |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I don't understand. It is an equal protection issue. What would you consider it? nt. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. A non-issue really. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. BS. Affirmative Action was developed to ensure equal protection. Furthermore, |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I forgive you for your ignorance, no one deserves to be this ignorant. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Your forgiveness is duly noted. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. The right to marry and have associated rights don't fit into the definiton of "civil rights" to you? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I suspect some people think "civil rights" is just some sort of subjective feel-good code |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. It seems like he's just dismissing the concept by feigning ignorance to me. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Sounds more like an immigration issue. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Oh, so you want open borders? |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Nope. I didn't infer anything like that. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Why shouldn't it be? |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. You lost me somewhere. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
38. They have a status already- It's called "Parents" and sometimes they are single or even same-sex |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
40. I know people that have been married and divorced 5 times and |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
44. No. (I am married and have children.) |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
47. nope. doesn't need it. pepole would breed anyway. nt |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
50. I think people chosing to turn themselves into a family unit deserve recognition |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
51. No more than any other lifestyle choice. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
53. If something is common, by definition it is not special. |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
56. One man, several wives is by no means uncommon |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
74. Yes. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
75. I just wish the fed would get out f the marriage game alotgether |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
76. How would allowing same sex couples to form unions harm heterosexual couples? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. my wife and i have chosen to remain childless...is our union somehow less "special"? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
78. no. nt. |
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