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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:31 PM
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Reid more interested in going to Davos than putting up with Dodd's filibuster
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/23/reid/index.html

Harry Reid -- who has (a) done more than any other individual to ensure that Bush's demands for telecom immunity and warrantless eavesdropping powers will be met in full and (b) allowed the Republicans all year to block virtually every bill without having to bother to actually filibuster -- went to the Senate floor yesterday and, with the scripted assistance of Mitch McConnell and Pat Leahy, warned Chris Dodd, Russ Feingold and others that they would be selfishly wreaking havoc on the schedules of their fellow Senators (making them work over the weekend, ruining their planned "retreat," and even preventing them from going to Davos!) if they bothered everyone with their annoying, pointless little filibuster.

To do so, Reid announced that, unlike for the multiple filibusters from Republican colleagues, he would actually force Dodd and company to engage in a real filibuster. This is what Reid said:

If people think they are going to talk this to death, we are going to be in here all night. This is not something we are going to have a silent filibuster on. If someone wants to filibuster this bill, they are going to do it in the openness of the Senate.

That is what Democrats have been urging Reid to do to the filibustering Republicans all year -- in order to dramatize their obstructionism -- but he has refused to make them actually filibuster anything, generously agreeing instead that every bill requires 60 votes. Instead, he reserves such punishment only for the members of his own caucus trying to take a stand for the rule of law and the Constitution, those who are trying finally to bring some accountability to this administration.

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Dodd is ruining your weekend, preventing your fun retreat, not letting you go to Davos -- all because he wants to grandstand with "talking this to death." The President said he wants this done and we must give him what he wants and now, and I am acting with my good friend Mitch McConnell -- who is explicitly hoping to bully the House into passing the same bill in one day that the Senate passes, just like happened back in August -- to make sure this all happens with as little disruption and debate as possible.

If and when telecom immunity is passed (thereby forever extinguishing any hope of investigating and obtaining accountability for the President's illegal spying programs), and the Bush administration (and subsequent presidents) are vested permanently with vast new warrantless eavesdropping powers to spy on Americans, it will be because Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership conspired to ensure that it happened. They aren't just standing by meekly, failing to oppose it. They are actively enabling it with as aggressive a posture as the Republicans could possibly have employed had they still been in control of the Congress.


The whole thing is very much worth a read.

That 'D' after Reid's name fooled me for a long time, but no more. He's one of them.

As for Chris Dodd: he was floated as a possible Majority Leader before Reid, but passed on it. What a shame. No doubt he never dreamed how bad Harry would be. None of us did. Who could imagine such a piss-poor excuse for leadership? He's cozier with the damned republicans than he is with his own party. I'm just riled about Harry.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:35 PM
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1. Harry's 60 vote deal is complete bullshit. He needs to make the rehtuglicans ACTUALLY filibuster...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 07:49 PM by truebrit71
...until they do it's a g-ddamned bluff and Reid is too weak, too stupid, or too old to know the difference...

Or he's just another spineless fucking coward.

If/when we win the WH and (please Jeebus) keep the majorities in Congress we need to get rid of ALL of the DINO's in leadership positions..and yes MS Pelosi this means you too...

Me? I stand with Senator Dodd and Senator Feingold.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:44 PM
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3. I stand with them, too
It's headcounts like this that make you truly realize how few friends we have in the Senate. I realize now that we don't have anything close to a majority in either chamber, not when you count out all the Reids, Pelosis, Emmanuels, all the dissemblers, all the blue dogs, and all those too chickenshit to take a stand.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:47 PM
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6. Rec for ^
Hey Asshat Harry! Do your JOB. You too Pickles!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:42 PM
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2. Harry Reid = DINO.
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 07:42 PM by AndyA
To say I'm disappointed in Reid is a MAJOR UNDERSTATEMENT.

He holds his own party members to a higher standard than the opposition?

He gives the opposition all the breaks, but none for his own team?

What bullshit - we might as well still have Boehner for all the difference a Dem majority has made.

Step down, Reid. Resign. Do America a favor!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:45 PM
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5. He's a disgrace
I'm wondering how the republicans got to pick our majority leader, because they couldn't have made a better choice in their own interests.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:45 PM
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4. Reid is the Best Democrat a Republican Can Buy (nt)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:48 PM
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7. HERE'S THE LINK IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED THE PETITION TO REID:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:00 PM
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9. Thanks for the link
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 12:04 PM by Hardhead
I'm off to sign that now. Then I'm going to make a Harry Reid doll and stick pins in it in the hope that it will lower my blood pressure.

Edit: I'm afraid I wasn't very polite in my message to Harry. Too bad.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:29 AM
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8. Who cares about hurting Reid's feelings?
I, personally, don't care about getting $$ from the Telcoms, but I do want them to talk and name, names. And those people who have been infringing on our privacy should go to jail, after they have been stripped clean of their worldy goods. THOSE people are the ones that should compensate us.

And the truth is, I'm being a lot kinder than a Republican would be, if the shoe was on the other foot. They're not spying on us because they think we're terrorists. They're spying on us to see how much we know about their illegal activities.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:32 PM
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10. reid - worse than daschle
and i didn't think that was possible.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:42 PM
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11. ..and I thought that would take some doing...
...
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